16-17 Season Thread

[knowyourenemy]

Is Okafor still a 76er?

 

[Rey]

Is Okafor still a 76er?

He may still end up traded, but it will likely be for a pick in the late teens / early 20's at best. His value just isn't there with the injuries and pedestrian production. Almost best to just keep him at this point.

 

[knowyourenemy]

Crap. Magic Johnson is taking things over in L.A. Back in 2014-2015, he advocated tanking for the Lakers, saying that he hoped they lost every game remaining on the schedule.

 

[knowyourenemy]

He may still end up traded, but it will likely be for a pick in the late teens / early 20's at best. His value just isn't there with the injuries and pedestrian production. Almost best to just keep him at this point.

They're saying that Indiana is interested. I say give them Okafor for whatever player they need to throw in to make it work, the Pacers' 2017 draft pick and the right to swap picks in 2020.

 

[Taddy Mason]

Ersan gone to hawks for a pair of 2nd rounders and Splitter.

 

[Four4Four]

And we get another center. Okafor better be gone tomorrow.

 

[Sparhawk]

Ersan gone to hawks for a pair of 2nd rounders and Splitter.

In reality, we traded Jerami Grant for a late 1st and two 2nd rounders, plus 2/3 of a season with Ersan mentoring Dario. Not too shabby.

Splitter hasn't even played this year as he is injured and I believe is an expiring contract.
He most likely will play as many minutes as Kirilenko did last season... or Ben Simmons this season so far.... 8(

 

[Rey]

Okafor to the Bulls has really gained steam the past few hours ...

 

[mannyz]

Okafor to the Bulls has really gained steam the past few hours ...

What are the rumored particulars? Thanks.

 

[Taddy Mason]

What are the rumored particulars? Thanks.

Sounds like the Bulls are trying to unload Mirotic. Nothing much. Even then the options are essentially Valentine, Mirotic, McRoberts, or a 1st and a mix there of. If the goal is just to get rid of Okafor, it's fine.

 

[knowyourenemy]

Sounds like the Bulls are trying to unload Mirotic. Nothing much. Even then the options are essentially Valentine, Mirotic, McRoberts, or a 1st and a mix there of. If the goal is just to get rid of Okafor, it's fine.

I might do Okafor for Valentine straight up.

 

[knowyourenemy]

Noel to the Mavericks for Bogut, Justin Anderson, and a conditional first round pick.

 

[Four4Four]

Well Noel is gone. They might as well keep Okafor now as a back up

 

[Sparhawk]

Top-18 protected this year, need to see if there are protections for the 2018 and beyond.

The optics look like Dallas fleeced us, but Noel was walking because we weren't going to pay him $18-20M+ to be a backup center. There has to be more if the pick doesn't convey this year, so I will need to know that before I decide to cry myself to sleep...

 

[knowyourenemy]

Top-18 protected this year, need to see if there are protections for the 2018 and beyond.

The optics look like Dallas fleeced us, but Noel was walking because we weren't going to pay him $18-20M+ to be a backup center. There has to be more if the pick doesn't convey this year, so I will need to know that before I decide to cry myself to sleep...

From what I'm reading, if it doesn't convey, the 76ers end up with two second rounders. So, Colangelo got Bogut, Anderson, and two second rounders for Noel. Embarrassingly bad -- unless he's able to swing Bogut for something of value. Seems unlikely. How do you not get either (a) some type of first rounder for Noel or (b) a better player than Justin Anderson?

 

[Sparhawk]

From what I'm reading, if it doesn't convey, the 76ers end up with two second rounders. So, Colangelo got Bogut, Anderson, and two second rounders for Noel. Embarrassingly bad -- unless he's able to swing Bogut for something of value. Seems unlikely. How do you not get either (a) some type of first rounder for Noel or (b) a better player than Justin Anderson?

Yeah, it looks disappointing, but the simple answer is that nobody was offering a better deal.
At the end of the day, they had to make the best deal that they could or let him walk for nothing.

And mind you, I'm not a Colangelo apologist.
Hinkie would have traded Noel before the season started.

 

[knowyourenemy]

Yeah, it looks disappointing, but the simple answer is that nobody was offering a better deal.
At the end of the day, they had to make the best deal that they could or let him walk for nothing.

And mind you, I'm not a Colangelo apologist.
Hinkie would have traded Noel before the season started.

This is where Hinkie would have gotten creative and gotten swap rights or something more valuable than two second rounders. Or wait until the offseason and sign-and-trade.

 

[knowyourenemy]

Yeah, it looks disappointing, but the simple answer is that nobody was offering a better deal.
At the end of the day, they had to make the best deal that they could or let him walk for nothing.

And mind you, I'm not a Colangelo apologist.
Hinkie would have traded Noel before the season started.

Also, I'm curious what this means for Okafor. Do we try to trade Okafor too? Or do we move forward with him as the backup to Embiid?

 

[knowyourenemy]

#FakeFirstRounder

 

[Sparhawk]

Also, I'm curious what this means for Okafor. Do we try to trade Okafor too? Or do we move forward with him as the backup to Embiid?

Unless you get a decent offer, keep him.
He's cost affordable for at least two more years.
Maybe he develops. Maybe he rots.
Doesn't matter.

You had to trade Noel because you couldn't afford to match the ridiculous salary he will command this offseason. I would like to see them trade Okafor, but it's not a must. If the offers stink, hold onto him and maybe another year of conditioning and training will help.