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Predict the Top 10 P5 Teams of the Decade

Rolltide94

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40 degrees is nowhere near winter temps, you snowflake


As someone who has lived in Canada I concur, As someone who had lived in Florida for 10 years, fuck that.
 

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Yeah that's fair as well. Who knows his much longer Ferentz will be at Iowa. Will Nebraska ever turn it around? Will Brohm stay at Purdue? There are alot of question marks in that division moving forward. If those things above don't pan out, I can see them contending with Wisconsin for the division most years.

Not only will Brohn stay at Purdue, but will he succeed there? Everyone assumed Frost would instantly turn Nebraska into a contender. Nebraska's recruiting classes have been the best in the B1G West for at least a decade now, so what is his excuse for struggling so far? And Ferentz has been at Iowa forever, he could last another 10 years, but some coaches peak and then diminish, others never stop learning and improving and adapting. Has Ferentz show continual improvement over time? Wisconsin seems to be rolling along but they were very average in 2018, and even lost to a very average Illini team in 2019, too. So who knows? I wouldn't pencil them into the Top half of the Top Ten of the next decade, I'd list them around #8-#10, or at the honorable mention. Now the Gophers? They are about the same as Wisconsin in that Fleck did show one of his teams could be beaten, so is he still learning or is there a hole in his coaching? And he's still the hot new flavor of the last decade, so sure, he might not stick around Minny for much longer, but my money is on his sticking around long enough to land UMn solidly in the Top Ten of the next decade.
 

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https://mup.umass.edu/sites/default...rican-research-universities-annual-report.pdf

I did not look up each of the last 20 years, as I have better things to do with my time, but I was interested enough to check 5 years.


2000 - UMn #8 --- Texas #14 (Public U Ranking)*

2005 - UMn #15 --- Texas #22

2010 - UMn #14 --- Texas #15

2014 - UMn #22 --- Texas #24

2019 - UMn #16 --- Texas #21


The 2000 rankings did not do an overall ranking, and separated the public and private, the other 4 were the overall ranking, private and public combined.

UMn was #8, #11, #6 & #7 in public only rankings in 05, 10, 14 & 19.
Texas was #9, #15, #8 & #13 in public only rankings in 05, 10, 14, 19.


So there you go. The ARWU national and global rankings also have UMn ranked ahead of Texas, 27th nationally for UMn to 28th for Texas, 41st Globally for UMn and 45th for Texas.

And UMn ranks 24th in the world in Nobel winners associated with it, and Texas ranks 64th. UMn has 30 total Nobel winners associated with it, Texas has/had only 12.

30 > 12.


That includes UMn producing 10 Nobel prize winning alums to just 4 for Texas.


From the 2009-2010 school year to the 2017-2018 school year, only twice has Texas had more students than Minnesota. I'll give UT credit, the same credit I give UMn, both schools are among just 5 schools in the nation to have at least 50,000 students every year since 2009-10. And both UMn and UT have very stable and consistent class sizes, never going below 50,000, and not going above 52,000.

UMn employs more staff/faculty than UT, and has at least a 20% larger budget. 3.1 Bil for UT to 3.8 UMn.

UT is a Flagship University & is a Space Grant University.

UMn is a Flagship University & is a Space Grant University & is a Land Grant University as well.


UMn's GSR is 94%. UMn's Fb program's GSR is 91%

Texas' GSR is 88%. Texas' FB program's GSR is 76%.

Holy Hell you are priceless. How many football players are doing research at Minnesota...or anywhere else for that matter. Glad you could find something that Minnesota is better at. Maybe they have a good dental school or something too, you should look into that too.

I'd ask what the size of your student body has to do with anything, but that would imply I cared what the answer was.

Alabama's team GSR was 85% despite 41% of our starters going to the NFL...What's Minnesota's excuse.
 

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Yeah, Minnesota's OOC this decade is pure trash.


We don't need a tough OOC schedule, we don't play in the weak ass Pac.

We play in the mighty B1G West!!!

But yeah, we've weakened our overall schedule with FOUR games scheduled against the Pac.
 

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Holy Hell you are priceless. How many football players are doing research at Minnesota...or anywhere else for that matter. Glad you could find something that Minnesota is better at. Maybe they have a good dental school or something too, you should look into that too.

I'd ask what the size of your student body has to do with anything, but that would imply I cared what the answer was.

Alabama's team GSR was 85% despite 41% of our starters going to the NFL...What's Minnesota's excuse.

91% is better than 85%, right? But I wasn't comparing UMn to Bama, was I?

And OF COURSE UMn has a good dental school and a good Law School and a good Business School and are basically good at everything. Wouldn't surprise me if they were better than Bama at 90-95% of their programs.

And you asked how many football players are doing research at Minnesota? I don't know, our Nobel Peace Prize winner was a UMn wrestler, so it happens. UMn's football program has 5 Academic All-Americans the last 2 seasons, so one of those guys might be interested in academics/research?
 

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We don't need a tough OOC schedule, we don't play in the weak ass Pac.

We play in the mighty B1G West!!!

But yeah, we've weakened our overall schedule with FOUR games scheduled against the Pac.

How many CFP wins does the mighty big west have?
 

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Alabama
Ohio State
Clemson
Oklahoma
Georgia
LSU
Florida
Florida State
Penn State
DEACS
 

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We've had several discussions recently about how cyclical college football is, and how there's turnover every decade as dominant teams fall and lower tier teams rise. Not necessarily in order, who do you think are the top 10 teams of this decade?
Alabama
Clemson
Ohio State
Oregon
Georgia
Florida
Wisconsin
Oklahoma
Minnesota
Florida State
Oregon lost its #1 recruiter and DB coach to USC last week followed by a 4* recruit decommitting. Ironically Oregon led the league in INT's this past season. Meanwhile Washington is looking at its first top 10 class since the inception of recruiting rankings.
 

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How many CFP wins does the mighty big west have?

How many wins does Oregon Baseball have vs The Gophers this weekend?

lol

About as relevant, tbh.


See, the B1G West is rising. The Pac is falling, or at least YOUR team's competition is. Clemson's winning 2 titles recently doesn't change the fact that Clemson's in conference competition has gotten weaker and weaker since Dabo first started at Clemson, now does it?


So, since we are talking about Oregon's competition, not Oregon, take away Oregon's wins in the cfp, and what do you have remaining?
 

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How many wins does Oregon Baseball have vs The Gophers this weekend?

See, the B1G West is rising. The Pac is falling, or at least YOUR team's competition is. Clemson's winning 2 titles recently doesn't change the fact that Clemson's in conference competition has gotten weaker and weaker since Dabo first started at Clemson, now does it?

So, since we are talking about Oregon's competition, not Oregon, take away Oregon's wins in the cfp, and what do you have remaining?

There's a forum dedicated to college baseball here. No one gives a shit about it on the football forum.

College Baseball Forum

The PAC champ just beat the B1G West champ on a neutral field. Nebraska got smacked down by bottom feeder Colorado in consecutive seasons.

As for Oregon vs. Minnesota (football-related, because anything else is irrelevant), Minnesota just lost an assistant coach to Oregon for a lateral move. Minnesota just isn't an attractive place to be.

REPORT: Oregon makes cornerback coach hire
 

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There's a forum dedicated to college baseball here. No one gives a shit about it on the football forum.

College Baseball Forum

The PAC champ just beat the B1G West champ on a neutral field. Nebraska got smacked down by bottom feeder Colorado in consecutive seasons.

As for Oregon vs. Minnesota (football-related, because anything else is irrelevant), Minnesota just lost an assistant coach to Oregon for a lateral move. Minnesota just isn't an attractive place to be.

REPORT: Oregon makes cornerback coach hire


UMn 3 Oregon 1

Let me know when you even out the series!
 

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Minnesota has abandoned playing OOC teams with a pulse, so its unlikely we'll see any more games.

You mean the 2 games vs the Pac we are playing in 2021 & 2022, or the 2 games vs the Pac we are playing in 2028 & 2029?

Or are you just trying to help me prove my point that Oregon's conf competition SUCKS???
 

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You mean the 2 games vs the Pac we are playing in 2021 & 2022, or the 2 games vs the Pac we are playing in 2028 & 2029?

Or are you just trying to help me prove my point that Oregon's conf competition SUCKS???

Congrats on playing the Rutgers and Maryland of the PAC I guess.
 

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And last decade we also played 4 games vs Pac teams.

So which is it Oregon boy, are your conference opponents pathetic and weak or is UMn's ooc scheduling not so bad? You can't have it both ways.
 

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And last decade we also played 4 games vs Pac teams.

So which is it Oregon boy, are your conference opponents pathetic and weak or is UMn's ooc scheduling not so bad? You can't have it both ways.

I couldn't care less who you played last decade. You've abandoned playing quality teams this decade.
 

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UMn's played USC, Oregon St, and will be playing Colorado and Cal.

And UMn has a 10-7 record vs UW,
and UMn has a 3-1 record vs Oregon,
and UMn has a 1-0 record vs Arizona,
and UMn has a 2-1 record vs UCLA,
and UMn has a 5-5 record vs Stan, WSU & Utah.

Did I miss someone? lol
 

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91% is better than 85%, right? But I wasn't comparing UMn to Bama, was I?

And OF COURSE UMn has a good dental school and a good Law School and a good Business School and are basically good at everything. Wouldn't surprise me if they were better than Bama at 90-95% of their programs.

And you asked how many football players are doing research at Minnesota? I don't know, our Nobel Peace Prize winner was a UMn wrestler, so it happens. UMn's football program has 5 Academic All-Americans the last 2 seasons, so one of those guys might be interested in academics/research?

5 Academic All-Americans in the last two years....cute.

Did you know Alabama leads the nation in Academic All-Americans.. 98 since the 2009-2010 academic year. We are the only school to have double digit winners for the last 6 years in a row. We have 6 more than second place Stanford over that span. We are 5th all-time in Academic All-Americans for Division I schools. Alabama is also one of only 10 schools to have multiple Football Academic All-American Team Members of the Year, the Academic Heisman if you will.

All this despite having 11,000 less students than Minnesota.

Your ranking, was for Graduate Research Schools, I highly doubt you have any football Academic All-Americans doing Graduate level research at Minnesota, regardless of their brilliance, and I highly doubt that the ability to do so was part of their recruiting decision.
 
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