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We all know that the Flyers are over the cap, under the 10% offseason allowance and none of that includes Pronger. That means any additional free agent/resigned RFA's are going to have to be in total under $5.5. That, and the fact that the 10% goes away, the Flyers will need to shed some salary. That, and the serious logjam on the roster.

Lets take a look:

Center: Giroux, Lacavalier, Coutourier, Schenn, Hall, Laughton (Purely because Hall was in the NHL)
Schenn has been bounced around his entire NHL career between Center and RW and LW. There are hockey people who believe he is better off playing LW even if he wants to be a center. I think the quickest and easiest solution to Schenn is move him to the LW. BUT, what to do with Laughton? Hall is a pure face off specialist/4th line skater. I think that will play out over the training camp and early season.

Wing: Yes, I know there are two wings but so few players are married to only playing the one even if they really should only play the "on" wing....

Hartnell, Voracek, Simmonds, Talbot, Read, Rosehill, Rinaldo, Newbury, McGinn, Gagne, Akeson
This assumes that they resign Gagne.

It is pretty set in stone that Newbury will be a swing between the Phantoms and the Flyers. Akeson is 90% going back to the Phantoms. That leaves 9 wingers. You only dress 8. I can see Rosehill and McGinn or Rinaldo rotating depending on the opponent. BUT, this isn't the greatest group for offense.

Don't forget that part of the solution to the Schenn problem was to play him on LW. And Laughton? Where does he fit in? Buried on the 4th line splitting time, or on a wing? If he is on the wing then someone else isn't. Log Jam.

Defense:
Timonen, Streit, Coburn, Schenn, Mezaros, Grossmann, Gervais, Gustafsson, Manning, Lauridsen

None this does not included anyone from this years draft who IMHO should not even be looked to for at least a full season.

Now, as a group they aren't bad...when healthy they are a bit one dimensional and not the slickest puck handlers, but they can get the job done when their goalie works with them to read the forecheck and help set up/move the puck...as demonstrated when Mason arrived last year playing behind a "Phantom" defense.

Timonen, Streit and Gustafsson are your puck movers. Timonen and Gustafsson both play a better game in the defensive zone than Streit. All three need to be paired with someone who can play back and stay in position...Coburn excelled earlier in his career playing with Timonen. Both Grossmann and Schenn are better suited as defensive defenseman. Mezaros has been so banged up the last two years that really the Flyers have been playing without him even though he was "here". It is a shame, when kept to 17-18 minutes he is a solid player. I don't know/see how Manning or Lauridsen makes the big team this year without a trade happening. A trade that is a pure salary dump.

Goal:

Mason, Emery, Danis, Heeter, Stollarz.

No logjam here. Mason and Emery can carry the load. Danis is a capable NHL player to have for emergency with the Phantoms. Heeter and Stollarz and develop.
 

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Yep someone gots to go....unfortunately its the nature of the business. Just as long as they can acquire another asset so be it. You did forget about Bourdon who was already playing in the NHL if he's back that just adds to it. I also agree that Schenn should be moved to the wing to learn under Lecav. He should embrace it and only be better for it in the long run.
 

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Good catch, I did forget Bourdon...and that the Flyers offered a qualifying offer to Wellwood, and he is going to miss most of the season getting over his injury.

Log Jam
 

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Mesz will get moved for a throw away draft pick if he can. Otherwise I think Coburn gets moved. If Coburn gets moved there should be a pretty sizeable return. He's a bona-fide top 4 defensive defenseman. I would expect at least a decent prospect and a 2nd rounder.
 

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Mesz will get moved for a throw away draft pick if he can. Otherwise I think Coburn gets moved. If Coburn gets moved there should be a pretty sizeable return. He's a bona-fide top 4 defensive defenseman. I would expect at least a decent prospect and a 2nd rounder.

Coburn(and a 3rd/4th if nessecary) for Nurse I'd do Coby and a 2nd and maybe throw in a prospect for Jones(but NASH wouldn't probably)... Just sayin
 

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Edmonton was probably looking for more that's why Coburns still here.
 

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Edmonton was probably looking for more that's why Coburns still here.

I think they were set on moving Smid back and we're trying to clear up our log jam at D and not take a lot of salary back so keep the numbers the same to only drop 1m in cap space doesn't make much sense. That was my point with Nurse(or their other prospects) you can put them in at AHL for a year or so to develop and bring them up when they're ready to.
 

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It's Mez. Love him, but he is the is odd man out
 

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nobody will take Mez
 

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nobody will take Mez

I think somebody will. There has to be a team who needs to add salary? It's not like Homer wod be asking for a top prospect. Get rid of this salary. This sucks. I really liked Mesz. He was awesome when he was hethy, which wasn't often:(
 

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Do you guys think that Laughton is a 100% lock to make the team this season? I dont really see a fit for him unless someone is moved.
 

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Earlier today...

Stephane Laporte ‏@laportestephane Rumeur. Échange Montréal-Philadelphie. Coburn, Simmonds et Talbot pour Plekanec, Beaulieu et Moen.

And then this by Simmonds

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Earlier today...

Stephane Laporte ‏@laportestephane Rumeur. Échange Montréal-Philadelphie. Coburn, Simmonds et Talbot pour Plekanec, Beaulieu et Moen.

And then this by Simmonds

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No thanks ..... that would be an awful deal for us.
 

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Probably Meszaros, Grossman, or Coburn. I always have this feeling that it will be Couturier, he's probably their best trade asset and they could get pretty much anyone they want for him. We'll see tho.
 

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Earlier today...

Stephane Laporte ‏@laportestephane Rumeur. Échange Montréal-Philadelphie. Coburn, Simmonds et Talbot pour Plekanec, Beaulieu et Moen.

And then this by Simmonds

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I would hold on to Simmonds if I'm the Flyers, he's contributes in so many ways, Simmonds & Giroux are probably the future of the Flyers (along with Voracek).
 

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We have to move a defenseman. We won't get good enough value for many of our forwards, and all the ones that have decent value on the market either don't take up enough cap space to clear us on their own, or are named Claude Giroux. We'll probably end up losing Coburn or Mez for a cheaper than we'd like.
 

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Earlier today...

Stephane Laporte ‏@laportestephane Rumeur. Échange Montréal-Philadelphie. Coburn, Simmonds et Talbot pour Plekanec, Beaulieu et Moen.

And then this by Simmonds

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I'm sorry I don't see what major piece we're getting back. Can anyone help me?
 

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I would hold on to Simmonds if I'm the Flyers, he's contributes in so many ways, Simmonds & Giroux are probably the future of the Flyers (along with Voracek).

Totally agree. Simmer is my favorite player on this team.
 

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Probably Meszaros, Grossman, or Coburn. I always have this feeling that it will be Couturier, he's probably their best trade asset and they could get pretty much anyone they want for him. We'll see tho.

If the team honestly feels that Laughton is ready to step up to the big club this year -- I would explore the market for Coots. Not saying I'd do it, but I'd definitely see what I might be able to get.
 
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