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The university claims that shit, they makes shirts, and we buy them and flaunt it. However, the majority of Alabama fans will tell you that they only claim 10 or 11 honestly, not the 15 that university claims.


Not my experience. Alabama fans I've met have been more than happy to claim all of them except 1941. Even the university is not taking up the "AP/Coaches" poll line in their media guide. The hypocrisy is blatant.
 

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There are just too many variable to be able to say that ALL-TIME one program is really much greater than the other between these.

Bowl Records at first seem pretty important, but then you get into the fact that bowl tie-ins by conference make it tougher on some than others.

All time wins, super important, but you're playing different teams than pretty much all the other top 5, and as has been said, ND and USC/UM and tOSU playing each other every year really makes the national title category tough as well.
 

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There are just too many variable to be able to say that ALL-TIME one program is really much greater than the other between these.

Bowl Records at first seem pretty important, but then you get into the fact that bowl tie-ins by conference make it tougher on some than others.

All time wins, super important, but you're playing different teams than pretty much all the other top 5, and as has been said, ND and USC/UM and tOSU playing each other every year really makes the national title category tough as well.


Bowls are an extremely iffy measure. Some teams went to tons of bowls when they were more or less exhibitions. Some played weaker opponents. Some schools best teams never went to bowls.
 

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Not my experience. Alabama fans I've met have been more than happy to claim all of them except 1941. Even the university is not taking up the "AP/Coaches" poll line in their media guide. The hypocrisy is blatant.

Then we have different experiences, and I believe I've came in contact with a lot more Bama fans than you.

Message board Bama fans don't count btw.
 

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We haven't won a National Title in over 20 years, and we're still considered by many, the most storied program in history, that says a lot.

But outside of my biased opinion, I think USC is next followed by Alabama.
 

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Record in "major" bowls:

USC (26-8-0)--0.76471
Georgia Tech (9-4-0)--0.69231
Oklahoma (18-11-0)--0.62069
Alabama (21-14-1)--0.59722
Penn St. (9-6-1)--0.59375
Washington (8-6-1)--0.56667
Georgia (9-7-0)--0.56250
Miami (FL) (10-8-0)--0.55556
Mississippi (6-5-0)--0.54545
Texas (15-13-1)--0.53448
Florida (8-7-0)--0.53333
Florida St. (9-8-0)--0.52941
Ohio St. (13-12-0)--0.52000
Notre Dame (11-11-0)--0.50000
LSU (11-11-1)--0.50000
Stanford (7-7-1)--0.50000
TCU (5-5-1)--0.50000
Nebraska (14-15-0)--0.48276
UCLA (6-7-0)--0.46154
Michigan (11-14-0)--0.44000
Tennessee (8-11-0)--0.42105
Texas A&M (5-7-0)--0.41667
Oregon (4-6-0)--0.40000
Arkansas (4-11-1)--0.28125
 

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Win/loss records of teams beaten in major bowls:

Notre Dame (113-4-1)--0.96186
Alabama (199-18-4)--0.90950
Miami (FL) (102-10-1)--0.90708
LSU (103-12-2)--0.88889
USC (244-30-5)--0.88351
Oklahoma (166-21-5)--0.87760
Texas (134-18-4)--0.87179
Nebraska (130-21-2)--0.85621
Ohio St. (134-23-2)--0.84906
Michigan (95-16-4)--0.84348
Penn St. (90-20-0)--0.81818
 

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I dont factor bowl record as much especially when considering Northern or Eastern teams since most of the bowl games are just fancied up road games for those teams. Playing USC in the Rose Bowl, Florida State/Miami in the Orange Bowl, Florida in the Cap One, etc etc arent really good indicators of neutral field games IMO LOL
 

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Win/loss records of teams beaten in major bowls:

Notre Dame (113-4-1)--0.96186
Alabama (199-18-4)--0.90950
Miami (FL) (102-10-1)--0.90708
LSU (103-12-2)--0.88889
USC (244-30-5)--0.88351
Oklahoma (166-21-5)--0.87760
Texas (134-18-4)--0.87179
Nebraska (130-21-2)--0.85621
Ohio St. (134-23-2)--0.84906
Michigan (95-16-4)--0.84348
Penn St. (90-20-0)--0.81818

Damn!
 

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Wow. An Alabama fan comes up with a rating system with Alabama #1. Knock me over with a feather.

I think they just counted it as another national title....
 

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I'd like to throw out there that ND's bowl game record would be better if we didn't skip out on bowl games for 40 years.
 
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