Best Program of All Time

[boxedlunch]

So I've been pondering this question for many years now and I made this image to help the question out. Any input?

For the record:

Notre Dame does not have 13 self-claimed titles.
USC has 11 self-claimed titles

Too many other problems to mention.

 

[WhiteMamba]

well done.

Love these type of graphs.

Before looking at your chart I would have answered USC and Alabama.

After looking at the chart I say the same thing. USC and Alabama.

again. Nice werk.

 

[BeaverShaver]

Awesome chart, I would agree with most, Alabama is the gold standard in CFB. Everyone else is chasing.

 

[boxedlunch]

Bowl Records (20 or more games):

USC (31-16-0)--0.65957
Oklahoma St. (15-8-0)--0.65217
Mississippi (22-12-0)--0.64706
Florida St. (24-14-2)--0.62500
Auburn (22-13-2)--0.62162
Syracuse (14-9-1)--0.60417
Alabama (34-22-3)--0.60169
Oklahoma (27-18-1)--0.59783
Georgia (27-18-3)--0.59375
Boston College (13-9-0)--0.59091
Penn St. (21-15-2)--0.57895
Georgia Tech (23-18-0)--0.56098
Iowa (14-11-1)--0.55769
Texas (27-22-2)--0.54902
N.C. State (14-12-1)--0.53704
Miami (FL) (18-16-0)--0.52941
Arizona St. (13-12-1)--0.51923
LSU (22-21-1)--0.51136
Tennessee (25-24-0)--0.51020
Florida (20-20-0)--0.50000
Maryland (11-11-2)--0.50000
California (10-10-1)--0.50000
Southern Miss. (10-10-0)--0.50000
Nebraska (24-25-0)--0.48980
Clemson (17-18-0)--0.48571
Washington (15-16-1)--0.48438
Stanford (11-12-1)--0.47917
Michigan (20-22-0)--0.47619
Fresno St. (10-11-0)--0.47619
Notre Dame (15-17-0)--0.46875
TCU (13-15-1)--0.46552
Wisconsin (11-13-0)--0.45833
Air Force (10-12-1)--0.45652
UCLA (14-17-1)--0.45312
Ohio St. (19-23-0)--0.45238
Houston (9-11-1)--0.45238
Missouri (13-16-0)--0.44828
North Carolina (13-16-0)--0.44828
Texas A&M (15-19-0)--0.44118
West Virginia (14-18-0)--0.43750
BYU (13-17-1)--0.43548
Colorado (12-16-0)--0.42857
Oregon (11-15-0)--0.42308
Pittsburgh (12-17-0)--0.41379
Michigan St. (9-14-0)--0.39130
Texas Tech (13-21-1)--0.38571
Virginia Tech (10-16-0)--0.38462
Arkansas (13-23-3)--0.37179

 

[rmilia1]

Bowl Records (20 or more games):

USC (31-16-0)--0.65957
Oklahoma St. (15-8-0)--0.65217
Mississippi (22-12-0)--0.64706
Florida St. (24-14-2)--0.62500
Auburn (22-13-2)--0.62162
Syracuse (14-9-1)--0.60417
Alabama (34-22-3)--0.60169
Oklahoma (27-18-1)--0.59783
Georgia (27-18-3)--0.59375
Boston College (13-9-0)--0.59091
Penn St. (21-15-2)--0.57895
Georgia Tech (23-18-0)--0.56098
Iowa (14-11-1)--0.55769
Texas (27-22-2)--0.54902
N.C. State (14-12-1)--0.53704
Miami (FL) (18-16-0)--0.52941
Arizona St. (13-12-1)--0.51923
LSU (22-21-1)--0.51136
Tennessee (25-24-0)--0.51020
Florida (20-20-0)--0.50000
Maryland (11-11-2)--0.50000
California (10-10-1)--0.50000
Southern Miss. (10-10-0)--0.50000
Nebraska (24-25-0)--0.48980
Clemson (17-18-0)--0.48571
Washington (15-16-1)--0.48438
Stanford (11-12-1)--0.47917
Michigan (20-22-0)--0.47619
Fresno St. (10-11-0)--0.47619
Notre Dame (15-17-0)--0.46875
TCU (13-15-1)--0.46552
Wisconsin (11-13-0)--0.45833
Air Force (10-12-1)--0.45652
UCLA (14-17-1)--0.45312
Ohio St. (19-23-0)--0.45238
Houston (9-11-1)--0.45238
Missouri (13-16-0)--0.44828
North Carolina (13-16-0)--0.44828
Texas A&M (15-19-0)--0.44118
West Virginia (14-18-0)--0.43750
BYU (13-17-1)--0.43548
Colorado (12-16-0)--0.42857
Oregon (11-15-0)--0.42308
Pittsburgh (12-17-0)--0.41379
Michigan St. (9-14-0)--0.39130
Texas Tech (13-21-1)--0.38571
Virginia Tech (10-16-0)--0.38462
Arkansas (13-23-3)--0.37179

13th best win pct FTW!!! LOL

 

[The Derski]

Awesome chart, I would agree with most, Alabama is the gold standard in CFB. Everyone else is chasing.

I would put USC on par with Bama.

 

[Codaxx]

I would put USC on par with Bama.

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I think too much is being put in claimed titles. I think that is a very subject category. OU has a better claim than I thought. More ranked seasons, more 10+ wins, more Heismans, and a lot more conference titles.

 

[Steelboy84]

Alabama

 

[Hornsstampede2.0]

Its Notre Dame.

Their popularity and national appeal have them always playing up in bowl games.

They have a lot of recent bowl game losses....but they probably should not have been slotted in those games to begin with.

A bowl committee will select a 6-6 bowl eligible Notre Dame over just about anyone with 8 win.

A 9 win Notre Dame is going to get selected over 11 win teams sometimes.

 

[Shanemansj13]

LOL@ no conference titles for ND

tOhio State!

 

[boxedlunch]

Its Notre Dame.

Their popularity and national appeal have them always playing up in bowl games.

They have a lot of recent bowl game losses....but they probably should not have been slotted in those games to begin with.

A bowl committee will select a 6-6 bowl eligible Notre Dame over just about anyone with 8 win.

A 9 win Notre Dame is going to get selected over 11 win teams sometimes.

Bowl opponents win/loss records:

Notre Dame (301-54-3)--0.845
USC (425-79-10)--0.837
Nebraska (448-85-8)--0.835
Oklahoma (418-80-8)--0.834
Alabama (524-109-10)--0.823
LSU (390-83-5)--0.821
Miami (FL) (305-64-7)--0.820
Texas (450-98-9)--0.816
Ohio St. (391-86-7)--0.815
Stanford (205-45-5)--0.814
Michigan (374-82-10)--0.813
Florida (354-83-7)--0.805
Tennessee (425-100-9)--0.804
Florida St. (369-91-2)--0.801
Penn St. (384-97-6)--0.795
Arkansas (336-91-5)--0.784
TCU (240-69-2)--0.775
Washington (262-75-9)--0.770
Virginia Tech (226-67-4)--0.768
Missouri (239-72-2)--0.767
Wisconsin (210-64-1)--0.765
Oregon (221-67-3)--0.765
Arizona St. (216-68-1)--0.760
Auburn (306-98-3)--0.756
Georgia (395-125-10)--0.755
California (163-53-5)--0.749
Texas A&M (276-91-7)--0.747
UCLA (263-92-1)--0.740
Pittsburgh (232-81-6)--0.737
Colorado (223-78-6)--0.736
Clemson (284-101-5)--0.735
Iowa (212-75-8)--0.732
Georgia Tech (312-110-13)--0.732
Houston (170-62-2)--0.731
Michigan St. (186-67-9)--0.727
Mississippi (258-95-7)--0.726
Syracuse (187-70-3)--0.725
North Carolina (229-90-1)--0.717
West Virginia (255-100-5)--0.715
Maryland (187-75-5)--0.710
BYU (243-103-5)--0.699
Oklahoma St. (176-76-5)--0.695
Boston College (171-77-0)--0.690
Texas Tech (258-114-9)--0.689
Southern Miss. (155-70-1)--0.688
N.C. State (202-93-7)--0.680
Fresno St. (155-76-5)--0.667
Air Force (170-88-2)--0.658

 

[Hornsstampede2.0]

There is a slight knock on Alabama.

Alabama never had the elite all time rival every year like the other choices.

Ohio State/Michigan and Notre Dame/USC always play each other.

And, you could argue that maybe Nebraska or Texas belong in the discussion as well.
Oklahoma played BOTH of THEM every year.

Alabama never had a historic elite superpower to tack on losses like the other choices.
Tennessee, Georgia, LSU, and others are historically just miss programs....almost there....

 

[boxedlunch]

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I think too much is being put in claimed titles. I think that is a very subject category. OU has a better claim than I thought. More ranked seasons, more 10+ wins, more Heismans, and a lot more conference titles.

Both Michigan and Oklahoma have 42 conference championships.

 

[Goldbug]

All time: Oklahoma

Counting down college football's most prestigious programs (1-5) - ESPN

Scout.com: The Greatest Program Of All-Time Is ...

History and Tradition - Oklahoma Sooners

Recent: Alabama by a country mile and will go to #1 if/when they win the NC again this year.

#1A: USC, Ohio State, Nebraska, Michigan, Texas, Notre Dame

#1B: LSU, Florida State, Oregon, Florida, Miami

 

[MI Nightmare]

Four years ago I'd have chosen Notre Dame. Today I choose Alabama.

That's a solid list and each program could make a case. I am surprised it doesn't include All-Americans. ND, I believe, owns that category.

 

[MI Nightmare]

I overlooked "NFL draft picks." Not quite an All-American category but close enough.

 

[rolltide14_0]

In my opinion, only AP titles and major bowl records should have a say in this. The fact you're in a major bowl or title game means you did fine in your conference, but your titles and winning percentage in major bowl game kind of shows the ability to go out and take down the top teams from other conferences as well.

 

[boxedlunch]

In my opinion, only AP titles and major bowl records should have a say in this. The fact you're in a major bowl or title game means you did fine in your conference, but your titles and winning percentage in major bowl game kind of shows the ability to go out and take down the top teams from other conferences as well.

Why did Alabama subject us to "Got 12" for about 20 years and then when they get the lead in AP titles start telling us that only AP titles matter?

 

[MI Nightmare]

I think you can eliminate ND, OhSU and Michigan immediately. No way to call a team with a losing bowl record the "best of all time."

It'd be nice to see a few meaningful bowl games played in Big Ten country.

 

[rolltide14_0]

Why did Alabama subject us to "Got 12" for about 20 years and then when they get the lead in AP titles start telling us that only AP titles matter?

The university claims that shit, they makes shirts, and we buy them and flaunt it. However, the majority of Alabama fans will tell you that they only claim 10 or 11 honestly, not the 15 that university claims.