Guys, we really have no idea what is going on behind those doors. We are going off what twitter says for the most part. They could be interviewing 12 guys and we would never know. Just let it work itself out.
You surrous??
VT today is not what VT was back then. Actually not even close. VT might has well been an FCS school back then. This school should not have to settle for bottom shelf coordinators. There are plenty in the MAC/C-USA/Sun Belt ranks if that is what it has to be. HS coach?? Nah. No thanks. Beamer and Co. are not that in touch and shouldn't take that risk.
Guys, we really have no idea what is going on behind those doors. We are going off what twitter says for the most part. They could be interviewing 12 guys and we would never know. Just let it work itself out.
I am well aware of what VT was then and is now and well before Beamer came, and I didn't suggest going after anyone in particular. I simply stated that there are jewels to be found at that level. Urban Meyer, Chip Kelly, Brian Kelly, that is where every one of those coaches cut their teeth before landing with big programs. Meyer was at Utah, but when he arrived, as you said, Utah may as well have been FCS. Brian Kelly coached at Glanville State, for chrissakes.
Chuck Long isn't the answer and his record speaks that louder than I ever could.
You can't close your mind to these guys. There is a reason that the MAC conference is known as the "cradle of coaches". I saw several MAC offenses this year that would run circles around VT's offense.
I'm not opposed to looking at a SUCCESSFUL up and coming position coach. Matt Canada would've been a great get. I'm not opposed to the way this is being handled (mostly). I am, however, a little pissed that they waited so long to get going on it. We probably missed out on some VERY good opportunities (like Canada) just to hold on to these coaches and do the right thing. I try to harp on Frank Beamer for being a good guy .. but fuck -- this is a rough business and you have to get your hands dirty sometimes. And the bowl game ... is not the most important thing. Hell, you could've told your coaching staff what was coming up, told them that they could stick around or the bowl game, prep, and get paid. When bowl game is over, they're gone .. and started your search at the end of November when you have a lot more options.
There are SO many options.
Both Brian Kelly and Urban Meyer took FBS teams to BCS games, so the 'Glanville State' argument is pretty much bogus.
How so? These guys were nobodies that some coach hired and all of a sudden you have a "rising star".
I'm not advertising for any of them, but to ignore them and say we want someone from the BCS ranks period, at least to me, smells too much like the NFL where the same guys get rehashed over and over, just for different teams.
Neither of them started as a head coach, and neither of them started in a FBS environment.
I'm just saying if you close the door on anyone without FBS experience, you are not exploring all your options. In fact, you are limiting them.
Its a crapshoot either way you go. I would just like our opponents to have to gameplan for our offense for a change regardless of who is the new OC.
Brian Kelly was the head coach at Cincinnati, and basically built that program and took them to a BCS bowl - a BCS conference team. Urban coached at Bowling Green, then took Utah, which was not a bad program, to a BCS bowl and a ridiculous record over his tenure. I am not sure how you don't recognize that these guys both got their current jobs based on their track record at good sized schools. Do you think Brian Kelly would go from Glanville State to Notre Dame? All of the 'rising star' coaches you talk about have had some intermediate job before they get to the big leagues. VT should not be scraping FCS coaches, or even mid major coaches unless they have had some serious success.
Conversely, in his lone season coordinating Temple’s offense, 2011, Loeffler directed a group that ranked seventh in rushing yards and 39th in scoring. The Owls went 9-4, after which Loeffler left for Auburn when Tigers offensive coordinator Gus Malzahn left to become Arkansas State’s head coach.
Scot Loeffler is the latest name to pop up. Apparant that Beamer wants to bring in someone who has coached big name QB's in the past.
Teel Time: Scot Loeffler latest to surface as Virginia Tech shops for offensive coordinator - dailypress.com
last year as OC at Auburn, he had the 112th ranked scoring offense in the country and 115th ranked total offense....sounds strikingly familiar
yeah he's had some better years with players like Tim Tebow taking snaps...
i am skeptical on this one.