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calsnowskier
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jeez, really?
Melancon is just trying to get in good with Bochy . . . and Pence.jeez, really?
Whew!Apparently Mac was alright. He continued his BP session without coming out.
jeez, really?
That means the clock is ticking on both Pence and Williamson for the Giants to make decisions. Pence has 14 days left and Williamson 20 days before activation is required. One of them will be on the big league roster soon and the other may get optioned back to Sacramento. I just cannot see the Giants getting rid of any of their veteran outfielders even when I can think of 4 of them who are expendable.Some good news, Mac Williamson is starting his rehab assignment in Sacramento. Hopefully he doesn't need long.
Also Bumgarner's first start will be next Saturday, the 26th.
That means the clock is ticking on both Pence and Williamson for the Giants to make decisions. Pence has 14 days left and Williamson 20 days before activation is required. One of them will be on the big league roster soon and the other may get optioned back to Sacramento. I just cannot see the Giants getting rid of any of their veteran outfielders even when I can think of 4 of them who are expendable.
I don't know, from what little is in this article, I think that Pence will be brought up in 5 to 10 days - Giants injury updates: Pence, Bumgarner, Panik. The numbers suggest he's getting some singles and walking a bit more but not much in the power department yet. I find it interesting that he's doing what his potential replacement has done, working with Justin Turner's personal hitting coach.The general feeling I'm getting is Mac will be back ASAP, and the Giants are doing everything they can to keep Pence in Sacramento for awhile, including potentially using an option.
If they need his consent, what does it matter that he has options? If he didn’t have any options, he could still accept an assignment.I don't know, from what little is in this article, I think that Pence will be brought up in 5 to 10 days - Giants injury updates: Pence, Bumgarner, Panik. The numbers suggest he's getting some singles and walking a bit more but not much in the power department yet. I find it interesting that he's doing what his potential replacement has done, working with Justin Turner's personal hitting coach.
It looks like Pence has two options left but the team would have to get Pence's consent to option him. Would Pence even be okay with that?
The difference would be whether or not he was on the 40 man roster. An outright assignment would take him off. An option would keep him on. In Pence's case, if he refuses the option the team has to keep him active. If he refuses an outright assignment, he can choose free agency right away.If they need his consent, what does it matter that he has options? If he didn’t have any options, he could still accept an assignment.
Ok, nice distinction. Thanks.The difference would be whether or not he was on the 40 man roster. An outright assignment would take him off. An option would keep him on. In Pence's case, if he refuses the option the team has to keep him active. If he refuses an outright assignment, he can choose free agency right away.
I would think an option would make him more comfortable. He's still on the 40 man roster so its easier for the team to call him back up. If he's bumped off the 40 man roster, the team would need to remove someone else to bring him back. Maybe it wouldn't make any difference to the FO but it could make a player more insecure and, therefore, less likely to either agree to an outright assignment or decide to walk away from the org.Ok, nice distinction. Thanks.
But if he has a good relationship with the org (I don’t think there is any reason to think he doesn’t) I am still not sure it makes a difference. An outright or an assignment end up doing the same thing except one give the org more flexibility. Maybe he would be more willing to “play along” knowing he were still on the 40 since it ours be easier for the org to call him up. But he were outrighted, he would be able to walk away if he wanted.
I am not advocating for one over the other. Just spitballing some potential issues either way.
Well, they probably want to tread lightly as you and others have pointed out, they work hard to cultivate good relationships with long time players. I would think Pence would only walk if it was obvious the Giants wanted to send him to the minors and he felt he had a better chance of playing in the bigs for another club.Good point about the FA aspect of the outright. Although, if Pence wanted to walk, I am sure the Giants would accommodate him. It isn’t like they have a huge asset they are trying to protect at this point.
I am not sure I believe that. Mac is only rehabbing in order to get his timing back. If he has a big weekend, I can see him back sooner rather than later.Some good news and some bad news:
That tweet was before Mac went yard last night.Some good news and some bad news:
Our FO has a well established history of doing such nonsense. While I hope the plan changes, I wouldn't be surprised to see Williamson at AAA for another week. That makes things more interesting because Pence will be just one week from forcing the Giants to make a decision on him.That tweet was before Mac went yard last night.