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Purdy beat out JimmyG (led team to SB loss), Trey Lance (early 1st rd pick), and Sam Darnold (former early 1st rd pick) in order to earn his playing time.

Mac got beaten out by Bailey Zappe to lose his.

You would need to call a doctor after 6hrs if Mac ever put up the numbers Purdy did this season

1st in yards/att
4th in completion %
5th in yards
3rd in TDs
1st in QBR
#1 seed in NFC and playing in the conference championship game
---All in his first full year as the starter, talk about doing better than anyone expected!

Mac ain't magically doing all that just by switching teams.

Not sure if you're giving way too much credit to SF's staff or way too much credit to NWE's staff for the performances we've seen on the field.

Mac would be extremely lucky to have a Ryan Tannehill career arc moving forward, go somewhere new, have a lot of chips fall right, not be the focal point of the offense, maybe be a backend QB1 for a couple seasons for fantasy - if he's lucky. Maybe we'll get to use Baker as a better example but let's see him do it more than one season first.

Mac isn't competing/won't be competing with the QBs in the league right now for starting time, he'll be competing with future 1st and 2nd rd picks wherever he lands, and my money would be on the future draft picks
I would only say that Jimmy G beat his own ass out of a job by not being available... and if he can lead that team to the Super Bowl, and get benched in Vegas for Aiden O'Connell, with McD's, jacobs, and Adams ??? Yes, I give a metric shit ton of credit of credit to Shanny Jr and Co for Purdy's success.

Danged near all of it in fact. He just has to not screw it up.
 

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Don't get me wrong Purdy is a great story, he's smart, makes good reads, and is deadly accurate... usually. Doesn't throw many INT's.. Perfectly fine QB, would love to have him in Vegas throwing to Adams.

But there's nothing all that special about his game.

I'd also love to have Mac in Vegas throwing to Adams, he's smart, makes good reads, and is pretty damned accurate, doesn't throw many int's
 

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One game, regardless of what game that one is, doesn't prove jack for anyone either way, but Purdy had moments of excellence, and moments of 'wtf are you thinking'. His biggest play wouldn't have counted in a round of horse without calling the bank shot

He does undoubtedly have one thing Squishy Mac doesn't though.. he can run around much better.
 

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I'm just trying to figure out how the hell the Chiefs are doing this again? I guess Kelce was just pacing himself late in the season, because he is back to being a beast. This is the 2nd straight year that in December it didn't look like they had any chance of even playing in the Super Bowl and now here we are again. Andy Reid gets a lot of credit for being a great coach, but he still might be underrated.
 

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I'm just trying to figure out how the hell the Chiefs are doing this again? I guess Kelce was just pacing himself late in the season, because he is back to being a beast. This is the 2nd straight year that in December it didn't look like they had any chance of even playing in the Super Bowl and now here we are again. Andy Reid gets a lot of credit for being a great coach, but he still might be underrated.
The Ravens did their part in gift wrapping the game as best as they could
 

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I'm just trying to figure out how the hell the Chiefs are doing this again? I guess Kelce was just pacing himself late in the season, because he is back to being a beast. This is the 2nd straight year that in December it didn't look like they had any chance of even playing in the Super Bowl and now here we are again. Andy Reid gets a lot of credit for being a great coach, but he still might be underrated.

The Bills beat themselves. This was our year to overtake KC... it was gift wrapped... and we shit the bed. Missing our two best defenders but everyone is hurting in January.

Reid is one of the best.
 

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Cowboys DC Dan Quinn conducted a second interview for the Commanders’ head-coaching vacancy Tuesday.

"We already knew the sides were talking, but it’s taken on greater meaning with the surprise news that Lions OC Ben Johnson, for some reason, doesn’t want the job. Quinn could be a decent turnaround artist from the perspective that he’s a player’s coach who should handle his side of the ball. He would also seem extremely unlikely to be the man to complete the gut-job rebuild Washington is embarking on."

I dunno about this take, but I think Quinn's gonna be the man for Washington next season.
 

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Cowboys DC Dan Quinn conducted a second interview for the Commanders’ head-coaching vacancy Tuesday.

"We already knew the sides were talking, but it’s taken on greater meaning with the surprise news that Lions OC Ben Johnson, for some reason, doesn’t want the job. Quinn could be a decent turnaround artist from the perspective that he’s a player’s coach who should handle his side of the ball. He would also seem extremely unlikely to be the man to complete the gut-job rebuild Washington is embarking on."

I dunno about this take, but I think Quinn's gonna be the man for Washington next season.
I'd agree, and why couldn't he be the man on the 'gut-job rebuild"? Good defensive minded head coach, get the ship righted, find a good OC that can build an somewhat competent offense around mediocre or worse QB's, have a crap record next year, draft that QB high, and run with it in '25.

edited--just don't miss on that QB of the future, or they'll be doing it all over again within 3 years
 

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I thought the Raiders made a ballsy move with Pierce.

Then they go and do this. :what: :what: :what:

NBC Houston’s Aaron Wilson remains USC senior offensive analyst Kliff Kingsbury is the “frontrunner” for the Raiders’ offensive coordinator opening.

"Oh dear. Already connected to the Eagles and Bears this offseason, infamous Kingsbury would be saddling up with a head coach in Antonio Pierce with whom he has no previous professional experience. He would also be another former head coach on a staff that just hired Marvin Lewis, surely a key consideration for first-time head man Pierce. The problem is that Kingsbury’s offense tends to go stale faster than a bag of unsealed Cheetos. The Raiders also currently lack a serious quarterback solution. It would be difficult to envision this ending well."
 

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I thought the Raiders made a ballsy move with Pierce.

Then they go and do this. :what: :what: :what:

NBC Houston’s Aaron Wilson remains USC senior offensive analyst Kliff Kingsbury is the “frontrunner” for the Raiders’ offensive coordinator opening.

"Oh dear. Already connected to the Eagles and Bears this offseason, infamous Kingsbury would be saddling up with a head coach in Antonio Pierce with whom he has no previous professional experience. He would also be another former head coach on a staff that just hired Marvin Lewis, surely a key consideration for first-time head man Pierce. The problem is that Kingsbury’s offense tends to go stale faster than a bag of unsealed Cheetos. The Raiders also currently lack a serious quarterback solution. It would be difficult to envision this ending well."
I dunno, could be worse, especially this late in the game. Who else is out there that is proven better?

Maybe Kingsbury's system went stale because he had a kid who'd rather be playing Madden or FortNight than gameplanning or studying film??

Or maybe he's a joke whose career was made by Mahommes?
 

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now word leaks out that he Raiders looked into Chip Kelly, and possibly Hue Jackson. If that's the case, I'm glad they went with Kingsbury. At least he made Kenyon Drake and James Conner into viable weekly set and forget RB's - while they were healthy anyways. Hell he even conned the Dolphins into breaking the bank for Edmonds by making him look better than he was. He may not be the greatest hire, maybe he'll be just fine, maybe better, but, there were most certainly worse options being considered.
 

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Just to really quickly re-visit the discussion on Mac Jones, (not the Mac v Purdy discussion..just Mac), here's Sean Payton's thoughts on him in '21


"I think positive, really positive," Payton told reporters Wednesday. "He was someone that we were really high on. I think he processes information fast. At Alabama if you watch closely his tape, the ball comes out, decisions are made fast. I think he sees the field horizontally as well as vertically well. He has the arm to make the throws that you want.

"His decision-making and processing are where I felt were really strong suits with him and I think he's handling it well. It's not easy to all of a sudden come in and start week one as a rookie, but he's a smart player."

also reported-

"The Saints reportedly attempted to jump ahead of the Patriots, who owned the 15th overall pick, to select Jones. They ultimately couldn't find a trade partner, and Jones landed in New England where he would overtake Cam Newton for the starting job."


Don't be surprised to see Sean Payton make a deal with the Patriots who are likely to blow the roster up and start over with the new regime and the #3 overall pick. Mac could likely be had for an early day 3 pick, or at worst a #3 and is still on year 4 of his rookie deal, with that 5th year option.

I wouldn't like it..I don't like the idea of Sean Payton having a QB he actually likes, in division with my Raiders, but it's good for football in general
 

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While discussing his scouting prowess, i think its important to remember that Sean Payton also traded 2 first round picks to draft Marcus Davenport out of UTSA...

Pop Tv GIF by Schitt's Creek
 

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While discussing his scouting prowess, i think its important to remember that Sean Payton also traded 2 first round picks to draft Marcus Davenport out of UTSA...

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Hahaha.. well, being an 'offensive guru', maybe he's got a better eye for QB than DE??

An interesting discussion that seems to be popular around here at the moment..
Did Brees make Sean, or other way around? Payton certainly improved Winston, Bridgewater, and even a marked improvement for RW.

Interestingly enough..Sean never drafted any of his main starting QB's

An enigma
 

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Hahaha.. well, being an 'offensive guru', maybe he's got a better eye for QB than DE??

An interesting discussion that seems to be popular around here at the moment..
Did Brees make Sean, or other way around? Payton certainly improved Winston, Bridgewater, and even a marked improvement for RW.

Interestingly enough..Sean never drafted any of his main starting QB's

An enigma

I think their teams were always greater than the sum of their individual parts. Both were really good by themselves and became amazing when in sync with each other after Payton got Brees from the chargers.

Wonder what that Brees#1 guy thinks? His Saints takes were really well grounded, lol
 

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Hahaha.. well, being an 'offensive guru', maybe he's got a better eye for QB than DE??

An interesting discussion that seems to be popular around here at the moment..
Did Brees make Sean, or other way around? Payton certainly improved Winston, Bridgewater, and even a marked improvement for RW.

Interestingly enough..Sean never drafted any of his main starting QB's

An enigma
Well, Brees was 37-37 without Payton, and Payton 25-21 without Brees. They were 135-77 together.
 

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I thought the Raiders made a ballsy move with Pierce.

Then they go and do this. :what: :what: :what:

NBC Houston’s Aaron Wilson remains USC senior offensive analyst Kliff Kingsbury is the “frontrunner” for the Raiders’ offensive coordinator opening.

"Oh dear. Already connected to the Eagles and Bears this offseason, infamous Kingsbury would be saddling up with a head coach in Antonio Pierce with whom he has no previous professional experience. He would also be another former head coach on a staff that just hired Marvin Lewis, surely a key consideration for first-time head man Pierce. The problem is that Kingsbury’s offense tends to go stale faster than a bag of unsealed Cheetos. The Raiders also currently lack a serious quarterback solution. It would be difficult to envision this ending well."
Stupid write up. A cheeto reference? Please

They could work well together and kliff could be a better OC than HC.
 
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