2016 NFL Draft Thread:

[deep9er]

I'm kind of thinking along these lines where they take a guy in the 6th round or so and draft other positions of need early instead of an average SEC QB when they haven't been producing many great ones in the past 15 years.

i get the gist of this post and obviously ok with it.

but want to comment on the SEC part........i never got it when someone (this isn't the first one) stereotypes an entire conference? The draft is really about individual prospects.

What conference that individual played in DOES matter, but this is different than steotyping an entire conference.

 

[purguy12]

Personally I think they need to draft Stanley and then take another good OL in the 2nd round, with doing that the O-Line issues should be solved.

That is another food Idea because you are right Oline would be secured then. Kind of like we did with Davis and Iupati. Then in the 3rd you draft one of the 2nd tier guys and let him sit for a year. Gabbert starts.
The only negative about this plan is that We still have pass rushing issues on D.
Im leaning towards getting a pass rusher and then a Olinemen in the 2nd rd. We can still move back in the 1st with out giving up our 2nd. With moving back in we grab Lynch. We now have a DL, OL and a QB. I fill we have depth and hopefully the return of AD the Oline will be improved with lets say Nick Martin.

Staley
Kilgore
Martin
Tiller
AD

not a bad oline. Depth with the FA pick up, Thomas, Brown.

Combo of Buckner and Armstead is scary.

Overall I do like your idea and wouldnt mind it if it happen.

 

[purguy12]

Also I still want the team to draft Jaylon Smith but now in the 4th or 5th round, I have faith that he'll come back to the player he was.

I do to. I think we can get a good 5-7 years from him. I would go as low as the 3rd rd.

 

[deep9er]

Agree. Niners need someone who is accurate and has high football IQ. Someone who will take care of the football and make good decisions. Don't need someone spectacular.

Yes, would've been nice if we had a shot at someone 'spectacular', but odds have fallen on that. However, look for the next best value even if late.

 

[purguy12]

Brandon Doughty too old for my liking. they usually dont pan out look at weeden and Chris Weinke.

 

[deep9er]

Any thoughts on Cody Kessler?

yesterday i read he has good accuracy, so i'd think later on he might provide value? like every one else, depends on which round?

 

[purguy12]

Yes, would've been nice if we had a shot at someone 'spectacular', but odds have fallen on that. However, look for the next best value even if late.

A late pick u are looking at 2 years before we see them play and it might not pan out. Im ok with as a back up QB but we need to find the next starting QB.

 

[deep9er]

Brandon Doughty too old for my liking. they usually dont pan out look at weeden and Chris Weinke.

If he gives us 5 years of consistency, i'll take it. We're not going to stop looking at QB's, as he isn't expected to be a 12 year 'franchise' QB.

That is why you use a '5th rounder', instead of #7 overall.

 

[deep9er]

A late pick u are looking at 2 years before we see them play and it might not pan out. Im ok with as a back up QB but we need to find the next starting QB.

we should draft a QB whenever there is value, it doesn't need to be in round 6. Just saying don't force one either, and if value doesn't arise till late, still ok to draft one.

with the trades for #1 and #2, odds are even lower we find a 'starting QB' for game 1. Are you expecting Cook to start game 1? Lynch?

 

[purguy12]

If he gives us 5 years of consistency, i'll take it. We're not going to stop looking at QB's, as he isn't expected to be a 12 year 'franchise' QB.

That is why you use a '5th rounder', instead of #7 overall.

I would pass. By the time he starts it would be 2 years so that puts you at 27 and then what like you said 5 ok years with outside chance he is an above avg Starter or a good chance he isnt nothing. Not worth for me. Like I said in those examples Im not a fan. Just my opinion.

 

[purguy12]

we should draft a QB whenever there is value, it doesn't need to be in round 6. Just saying don't force one either, and if value doesn't arise till late, still ok to draft one.

with the trades for #1 and #2, odds are even lower we find a 'starting QB' for game 1. Are you expecting Cook to start game 1? Lynch?

Yes I agree dont force one. that is why I wasnt a fan picking a QB 1st or 2nd pick. I dont think their true Value is a top 10 pick. No neither would be a starting QB from Day one. Cook maybe next year and Lynch outside chance by Mid to late season. All Depends on the season we are having. I am a fan of having the guy sit for a year and give him 1-2 games of experience at the end of the year to get his feet wet and to see what he has to improve on.

 

[elw4corps]

Yes I agree dont force one. that is why I wasnt a fan picking a QB 1st or 2nd pick. I dont think their true Value is a top 10 pick. No neither would be a starting QB from Day one. Cook maybe next year and Lynch outside chance by Mid to late season. All Depends on the season we are having. I am a fan of having the guy sit for a year and give him 1-2 games of experience at the end of the year to get his feet wet and to see what he has to improve on.

trade back get another 2nd use that to grab a qb to sit a year or adams in the 4/5 the round. I am really unsure about who we should get in the first round. I am not a fan of buckner, i can do bosa but i doubt he is there at seven. I like robert neickmeich but he is a head case, i could do Myles jack in the 2nd but that is a pipe dream.

 

[purguy12]

trade back get another 2nd use that to grab a qb to sit a year or adams in the 4/5 the round. I am really unsure about who we should get in the first round. I am not a fan of buckner, i can do bosa but i doubt he is there at seven. I like robert neickmeich but he is a head case, i could do Myles jack in the 2nd but that is a pipe dream.

Im ok with that. I would go Adams 5/6 just because we are taking a QB in rd2. I am also ok for just taking Adams and go hard at other needs.

 

[deep9er]

Yes I agree dont force one. that is why I wasnt a fan picking a QB 1st or 2nd pick. I dont think their true Value is a top 10 pick. No neither would be a starting QB from Day one. Cook maybe next year and Lynch outside chance by Mid to late season. All Depends on the season we are having. I am a fan of having the guy sit for a year and give him 1-2 games of experience at the end of the year to get his feet wet and to see what he has to improve on.

so ok for Cook or Lynch to sit one year, but not Doughty, Hogan, Kessler, etc.?

 

[purguy12]

so ok for Cook or Lynch to sit one year, but not Doughty, Hogan, Kessler, etc.?

no because chances are a lot more slim to be a starting QB. Thats why Cook and lynch are rated higher. They have a better chance.

 

[purguy12]

Oh man Im hearing tht 49ers are in works with a possible deal that would send Kap to Denver we would eat some of the money this year and Denver would give us a 1st rd pick(other picks would be included to make it work). not kap for 1st rd pick. The deal would work around Kap and Denvers 1st. It would be Kap and the 2nd rd pick for Denvers 1st rd pick. With that Pick 49ers like Cook.

Man this would be great. That means they like one of the other QBs to move back in.

Again its a rumor. This is from Jason Cole. How great would this be.

 

[deep9er]

no because chances are a lot more slim to be a starting QB. Thats why Cook and lynch are rated higher. They have a better chance.

Connor Cook, QB, Michigan State
Height: 6-4. Weight: 218. Hand: 9.75.
40 Time: 4.79.
Projected Round (2016): 1-3.
4/25/16: Sources say that Cook has good height, weight and delivery, but a number of evaluators don't really like him. They think he's too inaccurate and question his lack of leadership with his team not voting him a team captain. If one highly touted quarterback prospect slides like others have in years past, Cook could be the prime candidate.

At the combine, teams said they were disappointed in Cook's football I.Q. and play recall. They were expecting him to be strong with that given his years as a starter in a pro-style system, but Cook disappointed.

Cook made a big mistake turning down his Senior Bowl invitation and the opportunity to address some of these concerns. Prior to the combine, Cook said it was because of his shoulder injury. However in Mobile, director Phil Savage announced that Cook's passing on the Senior Bowl wasn't injury related. Teams continue to question Cook as a teammate and leader for the NFL.

In 2015, Cook connected on 56 percent passes for 3,131 yards with 24 touchdowns and seven interceptions. He played well against Oregon, but wasn't overwhelming against some mediocre opponents, though he had a prolific game against Rutgers. The Spartans have admitted their play calling was overly conservative at times and needed to let Cook throw more often. Late in the regular season, he played with an injured shoulder.

Cook has athleticism, good size, experience in a pro-style system and a strong arm that can make some beautiful throws downfield into tight windows. However, he isn't a quarterback who drops back and throws 50 times a game while dominating a defense. His accuracy needs improvement as well. Cook was more of a game manager for Michigan State, and that could be his future in the NFL.


Not being a leader and a little passing inaccuracy was already known to all. This part in bold is new to me and as such, my opinion is no in round 2. When you add all these things together, can't see this being much better than others.

 

[deep9er]

Dak Prescott, QB, Mississippi State
Height: 6-2. Weight: 226. Arm: 31.38. Hand: 9.88.
40 Time: 4.79.
Projected Round (2016): 2-3.
4/25/16: Prescott really helped his draft stock at the Senior Bowl and combine. Team sources said they love his football I.Q., leadership skills and character. They feel he has the ability to quickly be a captain in a NFL locker room and a leader of men. At the combine, Prescott had a solid workout to maintain his rising status. However shortly after that event, Prescott landed a DUI arrest to put a damper on the enthusiasm around him.

Prescott completed 66 percent of his passes in 2015 for 3,793 yards with 29 touchdowns and five interceptions. On the ground, he totaled 588 yards with 10 scores. Sources say they view Prescott as Tim Tebow 2.0 from playing in the same offense, though Prescott has better throwing mechanics and functions better out of the pocket than Tebow did entering the draft. They think Prescott needs to become a better pocket passer.

8/8/15: Prescott completed 61 percent of his passes in 2014 for 3,449 yards with 27 touchdowns and 11 interceptions. He averaged 4.7 yards per carry for 986 yards with 14 scores on the ground. Prescott underwhelmed against Alabama, but that was really the only game of the season in which he struggled.

Prescott's play has been somewhat reminiscent of Tim Tebow at Florida because Prescott is playing in the same offense for Tebow's former offensive coordinator, Dan Mullen, the Mississippi State head coach. Like Tebow, Prescott needs to improve his pocket passing and accuracy for the NFL.


this looks like a better Round 2 target.

 

[deep9er]

Oh man Im hearing tht 49ers are in works with a possible deal that would send Kap to Denver we would eat some of the money this year and Denver would give us a 1st rd pick(other picks would be included to make it work). not kap for 1st rd pick. The deal would work around Kap and Denvers 1st. It would be Kap and the 2nd rd pick for Denvers 1st rd pick. With that Pick 49ers like Cook.

Man this would be great. That means they like one of the other QBs to move back in.

Again its a rumor. This is from Jason Cole. How great would this be.

49ers trade Kaep, #37, and cap space; for Denver's #31....hmmmm

Think i would take Stanley (or Tunsil), then Prescott.

 

[deep9er]

Ok, how is this one should we trade Kaep for 31st, and Prescott isn't THAT wanted:

Round 1 - Buckner
Round 2 - Jason Spriggs
Round 2 - Prescott (we trade back into late round 2)

Of course, if we REALLY want Prescott, then take him at 31st.