You can't have it both ways RG3.

[kbso83432]

Love the guy, but he is throwing Shanny under the bus right now saying he wants to get in there. He is tired of 7 on 7, and he can do more. Yet all summer he was throwing Shanny under the bus for not "protecting" him more by pulling him out of the Seattle game. Shanny really didn't want to play him in the Eagles game last year. RG3 kinda tallked his way into that game. He's my guy, but he really needs to stop using the media to get his agenda out, which usually hangs Shanny out to dry. My 2 cents. We don't need the drama. Leave that to Riley Cooper and the Eagles. Leave that to Garrett's hot seat and the Cowboys.

 

[j_y19]

I tend to agree that he is sending mixed messages here. He need to be careful. Shanahan doesn't like being upstaged by his players in the media. I'm marking this up to his age and maturity, he is only 23 (I think) so he still has some learning to do.

 

[SaintGibbs]

I just think he's 'trying to say the right thing'. As j_y points out, he's still a kid. He may feel compelled to let everybody know he's a gamer, when we already know that. I'm sure he feels great, but this all hinges on a clearance from the medical staff and Dr. Andrews, not from Shanny's personal time-table.

 

[Warpath]

He's anxious to play. And a competitor. Can't blame him for that at all. Think both parties are doing what they are supposed to. Rg3 has the fire you want to see and Shanahan is showing the patience and control you want to see. I have no problems with this situation at this point.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

I tend to agree that he is sending mixed messages here. He need to be careful. Shanahan doesn't like being upstaged by his players in the media. I'm marking this up to his age and maturity, he is only 23 (I think) so he still has some learning to do.

I think that you are correct about this being a maturity issue. That is why it is important for the Shanahans to reign RG3 in somewhat in certain situations. They are the point where something like this will not jeopardize their positions with the team.

If they find themselves in the same situation as in late in the Ravens game or middle stages of the Seahawks game (or anywhere close) they simply pull RG3 - no questions asked. RG3 can thank them later. We could possibly give everyone a pass for their actions last season, but there is no excuse for acting in this manner moving forward.

 

[sublime4eva]

He's just being honest, he thinks he can play but he also says it's not up to him, it's up to the doctors and coaching staff, nowhere have I heard him say they better put me in, only that he feels ready. It's the media that keeps asking these stupid questions.

 

[SkinsDalltheWay]

When he plays, he is all heart. In the offseason, it would be good for him to tone it down a bit, as he has already said it/implied it through his actions. It just seems redundant to me, and that he is poking at something that shouldn't be woken

 

[skinz2winz]

RGIII will play once he is given medical clearance. My best guess is that will NOT happen until right before the first game if it does happen. RGIII will have to display full speed acceleration, cuts, change of direction, lateral movement along with sustaining duration during these exercises. Then, a few days to follow to see how the knee reacts to this work load. I worry that his rehabbing has taken a back seat to training camp and he may not be getting the rehab reps he needs to improve knee strength.

 

[JDM]

I think that you are correct about this being a maturity issue. That is why it is important for the Shanahans to reign RG3 in somewhat in certain situations. They are the point where something like this will not jeopardize their positions with the team.

If they find themselves in the same situation as in late in the Ravens game or middle stages of the Seahawks game (or anywhere close) they simply pull RG3 - no questions asked. RG3 can thank them later. We could possibly give everyone a pass for their actions last season, but there is no excuse for acting in this manner moving forward.

Play him. Let him win for you. Just don't call plays like you're a two year old who only wants to use one toy. When your superstar is banged up you protect him, not put the entire game on his shoulders. Shanahan should have been fired for that Seahawks game, but he shouldn't have pulled RG3 (although that would have been better than he handled it).

 

[Warpath]

He absolutely should have pulled RG3 against Seattle. It was evident that he wasn't going to be effective after tweaking his knee on the 2nd TD drive. He should have put Cousins in to see if they could ride out the 14 point lead. Instead the Seahawks were able to tee off on Morris because RG3 couldn't even plant to throw the ball after the 1st quarter.

 

[JDM]

That was terrible playcalling. RG3 was still making plays but they did their best to get him hurt more with egregiously disgusting play calling.

If they manage it better RG3 wins that game for them.

 

[RoboticDreams]

I'm getting tired of everybody blaming Shanahan for RGIII getting injured or for not pulling him from the game. He has some responsibility but so does RGIII. You can't lie to your coach and tell him you're good to go and then throw him under the bus when your ass gets hurt.

Get down. Get out of bounds. Stfu.

 

[Warpath]

He stopped making plays when it was evident he wasn't a running threat any longer. And he couldn't push off his back leg to throw.

He shouldn't have been in the game after the first quarter. If they took him out, they would have has a better chance of winning. With a healthy QB and a 14 point lead.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

That was terrible playcalling. RG3 was still making plays but they did their best to get him hurt more with egregiously disgusting play calling.

If they manage it better RG3 wins that game for them.

The past is the past. They all admitted they made mistakes & appear to be making steps to approach things differently. I love how non-Redskins fans act as if they know this team & want Shanahan fired, blah, blah, blah. Please. Again - I don't give advice on how to run the Pats & therefore don't put much stock into your opinion that is basically flawed.

Moving forward - they take advantage of RG3's skill set, refine the plays (which they were already doing), and yank him if he shows signs of any major strain on his body. In addition - RG3 needs to (& will) make adjustments such as not taking players head-on or trying to eek out every yard. End of story.

 

[Warpath]

I'm getting tired of everybody blaming Shanahan for RGIII getting injured or for not pulling him from the game. He has some responsibility but so does RGIII. You can't lie to your coach and tell him you're good to go and then throw him under the bus when your ass gets hurt.

Get down. Get out of bounds. Stfu.

It's on both of them.

He needs to do a better job of protecting himself like you said. But when it's obvious that he's ineffective and injured, it's up to the coach to pull him. What happened to Griffin to initially get the injury vs Baltimore was his fault. What happened after, particularly the 2nd quarter on in the Seattle game in the playoffs, was all on Shanahan for playing an ineffective and obviously injured player.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

I'm getting tired of everybody blaming Shanahan for RGIII getting injured or for not pulling him from the game. He has some responsibility but so does RGIII. You can't lie to your coach and tell him you're good to go and then throw him under the bus when your ass gets hurt.

Get down. Get out of bounds. Stfu.

Actually - I agree on both points. You are correct about RG3 & have stated as much several times (except the stfu part :rollseyes. However - I also believe that a coach needs to bench a player who is obviously hurt. There is no need for tough guys in the current NFL - only leads to later problems. Blame can be placed on both sides & they both will need to change moving forward.

 

[JDM]

The past is the past. They all admitted they made mistakes & appear to be making steps to approach things differently. I love how non-Redskins fans act as if they know this team & want Shanahan fired, blah, blah, blah. Please. Again - I don't give advice on how to run the Pats & therefore don't put much stock into your opinion that is basically flawed.

Moving forward - they take advantage of RG3's skill set, refine the plays (which they were already doing), and yank him if he shows signs of any major strain on his body. In addition - RG3 needs to (& will) make adjustments such as not taking players head-on or trying to eek out every yard. End of story.

If you know football you can apply that knowledge to any team. Dismissing my opinion because I am a patriots fan is stupid.

Shanahan took the guy they (rightfully so) mortgaged the hell out of their future for, on a visibly shredded knee, and allowed continual play calls that begged for him to keep hurting it more. It was embarrassing to the sport how RG3 was handled that game.

 

[skinsdad62]

stop making a mountain out of a mole hill . it is nothing . a young qb wants to play and an older coach wants to play it safe .

the only people who are throwing the coach under the bus are the fan base

when he got hurt vs the ravens everyone of us wanted RG3 back on the field ASAP

WE turned a blind eye vs the eagles and the cowboys when he played on a knee that wasnt 100%

RG3 KNEW the risk of playing , the coaching staff did and the medical staff did since the ravens game and now after the guy gets hurt then we play the (woulda shoulda coulda card )

i think everyone involved learned some valuable lessons and now they are trying to correct it

as far as i can tell neither RG3 nor shanahan said anything wrong and no one was throwing no one under the proverbial bus .

what you have is a young stud qb chomping at the bit and an older coach who made a mistake with him earlier and is not wanting to do it again

 

[SoCalWizFan]

It's on both of them.

He needs to do a better job of protecting himself like you said. But when it's obvious that he's ineffective and injured, it's up to the coach to pull him. What happened to Griffin to initially get the injury vs Baltimore was his fault. What happened after, particularly the 2nd quarter on in the Seattle game in the playoffs, was all on Shanahan for playing an ineffective and obviously injured player.

Agree & they made mistakes. Time to move on. Why do all these outsiders have to take it a step further & suggest firing Shanahan or that RG3 will not make it past 2 games, etc, etc. Just wait & see how it plays out.

 

[Warpath]

If you know football you can apply that knowledge to any team. Dismissing my opinion because I am a patriots fan is stupid.

Shanahan took the guy they (rightfully so) mortgaged the hell out of their future for, on a visibly shredded knee, and allowed continual play calls that begged for him to keep hurting it more. It was embarrassing to the sport how RG3 was handled that game.

My only argument with you is that he should have taken him out of the game outright. He wasn't effective throwing the ball because he couldn't push off. And when there was pressure he's going to have instictive reactions to scramble. He couldn't. It was painful to watch, and he should have been taken out of the game. There's no playcalling they could have implemented that would have been effective when he couldn't move and couldn't plant to throw.