Will they move these new Bowl Games up?

[BamaDude]

also if i recall properly there were like 3 teams i think that were 5-7 to go bowling that year

I think you are correct; and I believe two of the three were from the Big 10. Minnesota may have been the other B-10 team. I don't recall who the third team might have been. It seems like two of the 5-7 teams actually won their bowl games.

 

[Olyduck]

I believe that is the same thing

as many as 10 means no more than 10.

 

[THUNDER]

They should just stop counting fcs games towards bowl eligibility or at least only count then once every 2 or 3 years That would take care of all of this

No they should raise the minimum win total to 7.
Rewarding a team for a mediocre .500 season is horse crap.

 

[rmilia1]

No they should raise the minimum win total to 7.
Rewarding a team for a mediocre .500 season is horse crap.

You'd never fill all your slots then and you'd end up just granting waivers for teams to fill bowls . Shit we've had years where we don't even have enough 6-6 teams ( which is why nearly everyone plays an FCS team every few years now )

I like the concept but it wouldn't really change anything. There will be 12+ 6-6 teams in bowls this year. I do think I like the idea of sol 7-5 teams needing to be guaranteed a spot before ANY 6-6 team and then 6-6 teams receiving preference if they did not play a FCS team

 

[NolePride]

as many as 10 means no more than 10.

Whatever you say, I'll accept

 

[THUNDER]

You'd never fill all your slots then and you'd end up just granting waivers for teams to fill bowls . Shit we've had years where we don't even have enough 6-6 teams ( which is why nearly everyone plays an FCS team every few years now )

I like the concept but it wouldn't really change anything. There will be 12+ 6-6 teams in bowls this year. I do think I like the idea of sol 7-5 teams needing to be guaranteed a spot before ANY 6-6 team and then 6-6 teams receiving preference if they did not play a FCS team

Point is, Bowl games are/should be a reward for a good/great season. Since when is 6-6 or 5-7 a good/great season?
There are too many Bowl games obviously. Look in the stands at some of these no name games this year. You will see several games with less than 5-10k peeps in them. Some of these hapless games COST the school money. What's the point? It's become a joke and now it seems like even the college football world has accepted the " everyone gets a trophy" thought process.

 

[NolePride]

Point is, Bowl games are/should be a reward for a good/great season. Since when is 6-6 or 5-7 a good/great season?
There are too many Bowl games obviously. Look in the stands at some of these no name games this year. You will see several games with less than 5-10k peeps in them. Some of these hapless games COST the school money. What's the point? It's become a joke and now it seems like even the college football world has accepted the " everyone gets a trophy" thought process.

Look at these Tuesday and Wednesday nite TV games. There is nobody at those games. The MAC does it for the attention and the
TV money. Bowl Games can be for the players. Extra practice time and the players get 500 dollars worth of free gifts.

Last year there were 14 6-6 teams in bowls. 8 of those teams
were from Power 5 leagues.

Florida State lost money when we went to the Rose Bowl. The league only allocates so much money for expenses. The Rose
Bowl wanted Renegade (The Horse) at the game.

Well, we could fly the entire student body out there cheaper
than flying Renegade. So we had to drive him. That's a somewhat big deal. We can't get him a room at the Holiday Inn. We have
to find a ranch or something similar to board him for the night
and it takes 3 days/nights to drive him there. Along with the
Sheriff Deputies and Handlers that care for him and protect him.

Add in a 500-person band and Team Hotel facilities that are not
named Motel 6, and the cost will mount in a hurry.

Overall leagues/schools don't lose money because they share the
bowl income. But added expenses come out of an individual team's share.

 

[THUNDER]

Look at these Tuesday and Wednesday nite TV games. There is nobody at those games. The MAC does it for the attention and the
TV money. Bowl Games can be for the players. Extra practice time and the players get 500 dollars worth of free gifts.

Last year there were 14 6-6 teams in bowls. 8 of those teams
were from Power 5 leagues.

Florida State lost money when we went to the Rose Bowl. The league only allocates so much money for expenses. The Rose
Bowl wanted Renegade (The Horse) at the game.

Well, we could fly the entire student body out there cheaper
than flying Renegade. So we had to drive him. That's a somewhat big deal. We can't get him a room at the Holiday Inn. We have
to find a ranch or something similar to board him for the night
and it takes 3 days/nights to drive him there. Along with the
Sheriff Deputies and Handlers that care for him and protect him.

Add in a 500-person band and Team Hotel facilities that are not
named Motel 6, and the cost will mount in a hurry.

Overall leagues/schools don't lose money because they share the
bowl income. But added expenses come out of an individual team's share.

Ooookay...sounds like you agree with me..??....

 

[NolePride]

Ooookay...sounds like you agree with me..??....

Yes and No.

 

[NolePride]

Okay...let's update where we stand on Bowl Eligible teams.

72 are in and 35 are eliminated.

23 teams still have a shot.

20 teams have 5-6 records. Win they're in lose they're out.

We know for certain that 3 will get in and 3 will be eliminated
Tenn @ Vandy
Purdue @ Indiana
Baylor vs Tex Tech @ Jerry's World

Those 3 games involve all 5-6 teams.

So while we don't lnow which 3 will make it...we do know 3
will so we can update to 75 In and 38 out.

The remaining 14 5-6 teams. (All Caps)
MINN @ Wis.
MARYLAND @ Penn St
Florida @ FLA ST
WAKE @ Duke
Okie St @ TCU
K-STATE @ Iowa St
Notre Dame @ USC
COLO @ Cal
Az St @ ARIZ.

Ariz looks like the best bet to make it from that group,
only because ASU is already bowl qualified and with
the exception of the rivalry game has nothing to play for.

Iowa St could let Texas beat them twice. Wake-Duke is always
a good game because it is the only time both of these schools
match up physically.

After that every other 5-6 team is going to have to get a big
upset win.

The remaining 5 (5-6 teams) should be favorites

Charlotte @ FAU
SMU @ Tulsa
Navy @ TULANE
C, CAROLINA @ So Ala
WYOMING @ N Mex.

The other 3 teams in the hunt are 5-5 So Miss
who plays at UTEP and will be a favorite.

4-6 Akron who plays at Ohio and then plays at So Car.
(They're finished)

Then comes 4-6 Va Tech. They have a "maybe" game scheduled.
If they lose to UVA they're done. If they win, and they have
dominated UVA for a good Decade...they will then host Marshall
on Dec 1st. If they lose to UVA the Marshall game will not be
played.

I'm estimating that 82 teams will be bowl eligible and it could
go as high as 85. Then again all of them could get beat and
we wind up 3 teams short of being bowl eligible.

 

[NU_FTW]

Okay...let's update where we stand on Bowl Eligible teams.

72 are in and 35 are eliminated.

23 teams still have a shot.

20 teams have 5-6 records. Win they're in lose they're out.

We know for certain that 3 will get in and 3 will be eliminated
Tenn @ Vandy
Purdue @ Indiana
Baylor vs Tex Tech @ Jerry's World

Those 3 games involve all 5-6 teams.

So while we don't lnow which 3 will make it...we do know 3
will so we can update to 75 In and 38 out.

The remaining 14 5-6 teams. (All Caps)
MINN @ Wis.
MARYLAND @ Penn St
Florida @ FLA ST
WAKE @ Duke
Okie St @ TCU
K-STATE @ Iowa St
Notre Dame @ USC
COLO @ Cal
Az St @ ARIZ.

Ariz looks like the best bet to make it from that group,
only because ASU is already bowl qualified and with
the exception of the rivalry game has nothing to play for.

Iowa St could let Texas beat them twice. Wake-Duke is always
a good game because it is the only time both of these schools
match up physically.

After that every other 5-6 team is going to have to get a big
upset win.

The remaining 5 (5-6 teams) should be favorites

Charlotte @ FAU
SMU @ Tulsa
Navy @ TULANE
C, CAROLINA @ So Ala
WYOMING @ N Mex.

The other 3 teams in the hunt are 5-5 So Miss
who plays at UTEP and will be a favorite.

4-6 Akron who plays at Ohio and then plays at So Car.
(They're finished)

Then comes 4-6 Va Tech. They have a "maybe" game scheduled.
If they lose to UVA they're done. If they win, and they have
dominated UVA for a good Decade...they will then host Marshall
on Dec 1st. If they lose to UVA the Marshall game will not be
played.

I'm estimating that 82 teams will be bowl eligible and it could
go as high as 85. Then again all of them could get beat and
we wind up 3 teams short of being bowl eligible.

I did a similar exercise yesterday and only counted 71 teams currently 6+ wins.

K State is/was a 14 pt dog
TCU a 9 pt dog
Wake Forest a 12.5 pt dog
Coastal Carolina is a 1.5pt fav (pickem)
SMU a 2 pt fav (pickem)
Tulane a 7pt fav
Wyoming a 7.5 pt fav
So.Miss a 13pt fav

I didnt look up the line on all of them but others that are unlikely to make it that have 5 wins currently
FSU
Maryland
Minny
Arizona
USC
CU
OLE Miss

when i figured my numbers if the odds hold true there will be exactly 78 teams

if things get a little crazy and more lose we can see some 5-7 teams get in.

 

[Olyduck]

Look at these Tuesday and Wednesday nite TV games. There is nobody at those games. The MAC does it for the attention and the
TV money. Bowl Games can be for the players. Extra practice time and the players get 500 dollars worth of free gifts.

Last year there were 14 6-6 teams in bowls. 8 of those teams
were from Power 5 leagues.

Florida State lost money when we went to the Rose Bowl. The league only allocates so much money for expenses. The Rose
Bowl wanted Renegade (The Horse) at the game.

Well, we could fly the entire student body out there cheaper
than flying Renegade. So we had to drive him. That's a somewhat big deal. We can't get him a room at the Holiday Inn. We have
to find a ranch or something similar to board him for the night
and it takes 3 days/nights to drive him there. Along with the
Sheriff Deputies and Handlers that care for him and protect him.

Add in a 500-person band and Team Hotel facilities that are not
named Motel 6, and the cost will mount in a hurry.

Overall leagues/schools don't lose money because they share the
bowl income. But added expenses come out of an individual team's share.

shoulda saved gas and just rode him out

 

[Olyduck]

I did a similar exercise yesterday and only counted 71 teams currently 6+ wins.

K State is/was a 14 pt dog
TCU a 9 pt dog
Wake Forest a 12.5 pt dog
Coastal Carolina is a 1.5pt fav (pickem)
SMU a 2 pt fav (pickem)
Tulane a 7pt fav
Wyoming a 7.5 pt fav
So.Miss a 13pt fav

I didnt look up the line on all of them but others that are unlikely to make it that have 5 wins currently
FSU
Maryland
Minny
Arizona
USC
CU
OLE Miss

when i figured my numbers if the odds hold true there will be exactly 78 teams

if things get a little crazy and more lose we can see some 5-7 teams get in.

Colorado and Arizona are in the Pac so crazier things have happened

 

[theboardref]

They should just stop counting fcs games towards bowl eligibility or at least only count then once every 2 or 3 years That would take care of all of this

The rule is only one game counts towards the win total. If you win more than one against an FCS team it doesn’t count. Although in the current state of everyone gets a trophy bowl games, there are 5-7 teams making bowls so yea.

 

[Olyduck]

apparently VT has a conditional game with Marshall should they beat UVA this week. VT is at 4 and 6 so a win puts them at 5 and they had ECU cancelled earlier this season.

 

[Deep Creek]

seems like even the college football world has accepted the " everyone gets a trophy" thought process.

 

[NolePride]

I did a similar exercise yesterday and only counted 71 teams currently 6+ wins.

K State is/was a 14 pt dog
TCU a 9 pt dog
Wake Forest a 12.5 pt dog
Coastal Carolina is a 1.5pt fav (pickem)
SMU a 2 pt fav (pickem)
Tulane a 7pt fav
Wyoming a 7.5 pt fav
So.Miss a 13pt fav

I didnt look up the line on all of them but others that are unlikely to make it that have 5 wins currently
FSU
Maryland
Minny
Arizona
USC
CU
OLE Miss

when i figured my numbers if the odds hold true there will be exactly 78 teams

if things get a little crazy and more lose we can see some 5-7 teams get in.

Ole Miss is on probation and can't play in a bowl

 

[NU_FTW]

Ole Miss is on probation and can't play in a bowl

Doh forgot about that, they were in the likely to lose cat. anyway

 

[TheRobotDevil]

I did a similar exercise yesterday and only counted 71 teams currently 6+ wins.

K State is/was a 14 pt dog
TCU a 9 pt dog
Wake Forest a 12.5 pt dog
Coastal Carolina is a 1.5pt fav (pickem)
SMU a 2 pt fav (pickem)
Tulane a 7pt fav
Wyoming a 7.5 pt fav
So.Miss a 13pt fav

I didnt look up the line on all of them but others that are unlikely to make it that have 5 wins currently
FSU
Maryland
Minny
Arizona
USC
CU
OLE Miss

when i figured my numbers if the odds hold true there will be exactly 78 teams

if things get a little crazy and more lose we can see some 5-7 teams get in.

I think Zona gets in I'm not sure ASU holds up against a healthy Tate ,And FSU backs in again. This is a Florida team that lost to Mizzou.

 

[NU_FTW]

Doh forgot about that, they were in the likely to lose cat. anyway

Entirely possible, will be an interesting week/end