Will they move these new Bowl Games up?

[NolePride]

There are supposed to be 3 new bowl games played in 2020. One in Chicago, One in Myrtle
Beach, SC and another at a site not yet determined, but believed to be in Greenville, Charleston, SC
or Tempe, Az.

Last year there were 3 eligible teams left out of bowl games. This year, as many as 10
could be sitting home even though they are Bowl Eligible.

Here's the current count of bowl eligibility for this season

Currently there are 64 teams Bowl Eligible. 32 teams have been eliminated (Includes Ole Miss
on probation and Liberty in a transition year)

With 2 weeks left for most teams and 3 weeks for a few...
We have 22 teams with 5 wins...1 away from eligibility. (That includes 6-5 Hawaii who because
they
play 13 games they need 7 to be bowl eligible).

9 teams have 6 losses. One loss away from being eliminated.

Thus using those numbers and beliefs that the 5 win teams will get one more win...that would
give us 86 eligible (need 78, to fill the slots) 41 will not make it. The 3 remaining teams
are 4-5 and need 2 wins to get in.

Will the NCAA move up the date, if possible, for those new Bowl Games to begin play?
CFB Reportedly May Add 3 New Bowl Games in 2020; Chicago, Myrtle Beach Possible

 

[rmilia1]

They should just stop counting fcs games towards bowl eligibility or at least only count then once every 2 or 3 years That would take care of all of this

 

[tnapucco]

There are supposed to be 3 new bowl games played in 2020. One in Chicago, One in Myrtle
Beach, SC and another at a site not yet determined, but believed to be in Greenville, Charleston, SC
or Tempe, Az.

Last year there were 3 eligible teams left out of bowl games. This year, as many as 10
could be sitting home even though they are Bowl Eligible.

Here's the current count of bowl eligibility for this season

Currently there are 64 teams Bowl Eligible. 32 teams have been eliminated (Includes Ole Miss
on probation and Liberty in a transition year)

With 2 weeks left for most teams and 3 weeks for a few...
We have 22 teams with 5 wins...1 away from eligibility. (That includes 6-5 Hawaii who because
they
play 13 games they need 7 to be bowl eligible).

9 teams have 6 losses. One loss away from being eliminated.

Thus using those numbers and beliefs that the 5 win teams will get one more win...that would
give us 86 eligible (need 78, to fill the slots) 41 will not make it. The 3 remaining teams
are 4-5 and need 2 wins to get in.

Will the NCAA move up the date, if possible, for those new Bowl Games to begin play?
CFB Reportedly May Add 3 New Bowl Games in 2020; Chicago, Myrtle Beach Possible

Are they owned by ESPN too?

If so, no thanks. Will not watch.

 

[podsox]

There are supposed to be 3 new bowl games played in 2020. One in Chicago, One in Myrtle
Beach, SC and another at a site not yet determined, but believed to be in Greenville, Charleston, SC
or Tempe, Az.

Last year there were 3 eligible teams left out of bowl games. This year, as many as 10
could be sitting home even though they are Bowl Eligible.

Here's the current count of bowl eligibility for this season

Currently there are 64 teams Bowl Eligible. 32 teams have been eliminated (Includes Ole Miss
on probation and Liberty in a transition year)

With 2 weeks left for most teams and 3 weeks for a few...
We have 22 teams with 5 wins...1 away from eligibility. (That includes 6-5 Hawaii who because
they
play 13 games they need 7 to be bowl eligible).

9 teams have 6 losses. One loss away from being eliminated.

Thus using those numbers and beliefs that the 5 win teams will get one more win...that would
give us 86 eligible (need 78, to fill the slots) 41 will not make it. The 3 remaining teams
are 4-5 and need 2 wins to get in.

Will the NCAA move up the date, if possible, for those new Bowl Games to begin play?
CFB Reportedly May Add 3 New Bowl Games in 2020; Chicago, Myrtle Beach Possible

I think the Chicago one already got scrapped. Big ten said no

 

[TheRobotDevil]

They should just stop counting fcs games towards bowl eligibility or at least only count then once every 2 or 3 years That would take care of all of this

But counting a win against a team that can't play in a bowl game makes so much sense. Obviously they should just add more bowls and include FCS teams its charitable en sech

 

[tnapucco]

But counting a win against a team that can't play in a bowl game makes so much sense. Obviously they should just add more bowls and include FCS teams its charitable en sech

I don't have a problem with EVERY team playing an FCS school. But just one. I'd rather everyone be on board, or nobody be on board. Fair is fair.

Many of those schools really need the cash, and it gives us some kind of recruiting tool...although I don't think its all that viable of a recruiting tool.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

I don't have a problem with EVERY team playing an FCS school. But just one. I'd rather everyone be on board, or nobody be on board. Fair is fair.

Many of those schools really need the cash, and it gives us some kind of recruiting tool...although I don't think its all that viable of a recruiting tool.

For me its a little more about the season implications. Logically it makes zero sense to count a win towards a record. Which holds bearing on both the play offs etc...When teams could replace a more meaningful game where they run a higher risk of that second loss. Which has been made a focal point over an extra game and a CC. As well as bowl eligibility when a team counts an FCS win to become bowl eligible. Which makes no sense since an FCS team can not obtain bowl eligibility. Those wins shouldn't factor in by logic imo.

Then again our play offs and bowls are decided by off the field. By a committee who's criteria that basically includes swim suit and evening gown competions rather than football


Btw like the Avy Occ great player and person

 

[outofyourmind]

Not even sure why the NCAA still has a rule requiring a certain amount of wins.
They always give a waiver. They don't want to get sued again.

 

[NolePride]

For me its a little more about the season implications. Logically it makes zero sense to count a win towards a record. Which holds bearing on both the play offs etc...When teams could replace a more meaningful game where they run a higher risk of that second loss. Which has been made a focal point over an extra game and a CC. As well as bowl eligibility when a team counts an FCS win to become bowl eligible. Which makes no sense since an FCS team can not obtain bowl eligibility. Those wins shouldn't factor in by logic imo.

Then again our play offs and bowls are decided by off the field. By a committee who's criteria that basically includes swim suit and evening gown competions rather than football


Btw like the Avy Occ great player and person

You know it would be very easy to settle all debates about scheduling if the NCAA went after the real culprit. The real
culprit being the P5 teams and Leagues.

Now, they have no problem eliminating 65 G5 teams at the start
of the season. The reason given in all debates is that G5 teams
are not worthy of the CFP. Well, then let's not count wins against
G5 teams either. The P5 is already on record saying they are not
worthy. Change the standard to a P5 school MUST have 5 wins
vs Power 5 teams to become bowl eligible.

Currently there are 36 P5 teams bowl eligible. Only 20 would be
bowl eligible if they had to beat 5 P5 teams, at the present time.

That settles the scheduling debate also. I don't give a shit who someone plays. If they want to go to a Bowl Game they are going
to have to beat 5 P5 teams. That forces the bottom feeders to
upgrade their schedule, if they want to go to a bowl game.

No longer can a league play 8 conf games, and have a team go
2-6 in league play and still be bowl eligible, without playing 4 OOC
games against P5 teams. Teams with 9 league games can forget
having 3-6 teams in conf play qualify unless they have beaten 3
OOC P5 teams.

The SEC currently has 9 bowl eligible if the standard was 5 P5 wins
they would have only 5 Bowl eligible at the present time.

The other leagues...

Big10 has 7 eligible would be reduced 4 bowl eligible
ACC has 8 eligible would be reduced to 3 bowl eligible
Big 12 has 4 eligible and that would remain the same
Pac12 has 7 eligible and that would be reduced to 3 eligible
(Notre Dame would be the 20th team bowl eligible.

Now many of these schools could still make it but many
others wouldn't.

You settle the scheduling debate at the same time as you
would the bowl invites.

Teams that are currently bowl eligible but haven't beaten 5 P5
teams to date are

Auburn
Miss St
Missouri
Tex AM
Mich St
Wisconsin
Iowa
Bost Coll
NC St
Duke
Ga Tech
Virginia
Oregon
Stanford
Cal
Arizona

 

[TheRobotDevil]

You know it would be very easy to settle all debates about scheduling if the NCAA went after the real culprit. The real
culprit being the P5 teams and Leagues.

Now, they have no problem eliminating 65 G5 teams at the start
of the season. The reason given in all debates is that G5 teams
are not worthy of the CFP. Well, then let's not count wins against
G5 teams either. The P5 is already on record saying they are not
worthy. Change the standard to a P5 school MUST have 5 wins
vs Power 5 teams to become bowl eligible.

Currently there are 36 P5 teams bowl eligible. Only 20 would be
bowl eligible if they had to beat 5 P5 teams, at the present time.

That settles the scheduling debate also. I don't give a shit who someone plays. If they want to go to a Bowl Game they are going
to have to beat 5 P5 teams. That forces the bottom feeders to
upgrade their schedule, if they want to go to a bowl game.

No longer can a league play 8 conf games, and have a team go
2-6 in league play and still be bowl eligible, without playing 4 OOC
games against P5 teams. Teams with 9 league games can forget
having 3-6 teams in conf play qualify unless they have beaten 3
OOC P5 teams.

The SEC currently has 9 bowl eligible if the standard was 5 P5 wins
they would have only 5 Bowl eligible at the present time.

The other leagues...

Big10 has 7 eligible would be reduced 4 bowl eligible
ACC has 8 eligible would be reduced to 3 bowl eligible
Big 12 has 4 eligible and that would remain the same
Pac12 has 7 eligible and that would be reduced to 3 eligible
(Notre Dame would be the 20th team bowl eligible.

Now many of these schools could still make it but many
others wouldn't.

You settle the scheduling debate at the same time as you
would the bowl invites.

Teams that are currently bowl eligible but haven't beaten 5 P5
teams to date are

Auburn
Miss St
Missouri
Tex AM
Mich St
Wisconsin
Iowa
Bost Coll
NC St
Duke
Ga Tech
Virginia
Oregon
Stanford
Cal
Arizona

I was actually dabbling in this last night. The PAC 12 alone has a chance for 10 of their 12 teams to qualify as bowl eligible.I started to briefly go through the other conferences and noticed it looked like a pretty big spike in bowl eligibility. Going by the 6 win method. You're to date teams that are bowl eligible a lot of whom played watered down OOC's is concerning. Between quite a few meaningless bowl games .Aside from money and recruiting purposes. And the flawed format utilized in the current CFB bowl and play off selection systems. I expect the watered down scheduling trend to increase.I'll always love college football. But at some point they need to progress and upgrade their systems.

If they're going to add bowls the play off expansion format mistaken proposed the other day. Makes a lot of sense.

You did a great job on the data btw

 

[Olyduck]

There are supposed to be 3 new bowl games played in 2020. One in Chicago, One in Myrtle
Beach, SC and another at a site not yet determined, but believed to be in Greenville, Charleston, SC
or Tempe, Az.

Last year there were 3 eligible teams left out of bowl games. This year, as many as 10
could be sitting home even though they are Bowl Eligible.

Here's the current count of bowl eligibility for this season

Currently there are 64 teams Bowl Eligible. 32 teams have been eliminated (Includes Ole Miss
on probation and Liberty in a transition year)

With 2 weeks left for most teams and 3 weeks for a few...
We have 22 teams with 5 wins...1 away from eligibility. (That includes 6-5 Hawaii who because
they
play 13 games they need 7 to be bowl eligible).

9 teams have 6 losses. One loss away from being eliminated.

Thus using those numbers and beliefs that the 5 win teams will get one more win...that would
give us 86 eligible (need 78, to fill the slots) 41 will not make it. The 3 remaining teams
are 4-5 and need 2 wins to get in.

Will the NCAA move up the date, if possible, for those new Bowl Games to begin play?
CFB Reportedly May Add 3 New Bowl Games in 2020; Chicago, Myrtle Beach Possible

with 2 or 3ven 3 games left to lay we then cant even discount 4 or 3 win teams can we?
I mean i woulndt be terribly surprised if vandy beat both Ole miss and Tenn

 

[NolePride]

with 2 or 3ven 3 games left to lay we then cant even discount 4 or 3 win teams can we?
I mean i woulndt be terribly surprised if vandy beat both Ole miss and Tenn

I'm not quite sure the point of view you are trying to make. (Seriously)

 

[wazzu31]

If the NCAA just scrapped every minor bowl and quit making 6 wins the goal of the season to make money OOC scheduling would improve instantly. Quit having Midol sponsor some minor bowl no one cares about and put that towards matching up two P5 schools in the OOC.

 

[Olyduck]

If the NCAA just scrapped every minor bowl and quit making 6 wins the goal of the season to make money OOC scheduling would improve instantly. Quit having Midol sponsor some minor bowl no one cares about and put that towards matching up two P5 schools in the OOC.

Your numbers were based on eligible and 5 win teams but 4 win teams could still make bowl eligible meaning more could be left out.

 

[NolePride]

If the NCAA just scrapped every minor bowl and quit making 6 wins the goal of the season to make money OOC scheduling would improve instantly. Quit having Midol sponsor some minor bowl no one cares about and put that towards matching up two P5 schools in the OOC.

What are you watching...Good Football or Bad Football? What is
the difference between a major bowl and a minor bowl (exempting
the elite 6)?

I'd much rather watch the Sun Belt Champ vs The C-USA Champ
than 2 6-6 P5 teams play.

 

[Across The Field]

I have no problem watching two evenly matched teams face off. These kids only have a few years of college, so being able to take part in a postseason game is a huge deal. I have no problem with bowls as long as we're not getting like 4-8 teams playing.

 

[wazzu31]

What are you watching...Good Football or Bad Football? What is
the difference between a major bowl and a minor bowl (exempting
the elite 6)?

I'd much rather watch the Sun Belt Champ vs The C-USA Champ
than 2 6-6 P5 teams play.

Because major bowls are better teams and it would make bowl games mean something again and wouldn’t allow teams like Auburn to go through the motions and lose to UCF because making a bowl means something. Minor bowls are just a waste of money for sponsors for games no one cares about. I’m sure you’d rather watch Sun Belt vs Conference USA but if the NCAA wants to fix OOC for the fans they need to take the sponsor money from the pity party bowl games into games that matter.

 

[NolePride]

Because major bowls are better teams and it would make bowl games mean something again and wouldn’t allow teams like Auburn to go through the motions and lose to UCF because making a bowl means something. Minor bowls are just a waste of money for sponsors for games no one cares about. I’m sure you’d rather watch Sun Belt vs Conference USA but if the NCAA wants to fix OOC for the fans they need to take the sponsor money from the pity party bowl games into games that matter.

No. They need to require a P5 team to have beaten 5 P5 teams in
the season to be bowl eligible. That is the only thing that will lead
to better OOC scheduling.

To be Bowl Eligible this year, under that rule...Auburn would have
to beat Alabama, or they stay home.

I want to watch the "game"...not the "teams." I want to watch
good football being played. I can't get that with 6-6 P5 teams
loaded with rosters of underachieving thugs.

 

[tducey]

I've always been a fan of reducing the # of bowls. IMO I think 16-20 Bowl games is enough.

 

[Olyduck]

Your numbers were based on eligible and 5 win teams but 4 win teams could still make bowl eligible meaning more could be left out.

I'm not quite sure the point of view you are trying to make. (Seriously)

As you said 64 eligible. 22 in need of 1 win. but there are also 12 teams that can still get to 6 that have 4 wins and have at least 2 games. I was wrong about 3 win teams. it looks like all of them only have 2 left.
Of the 12 Air force and Wyoming play each other so only the winner of that game will have a shot at 6.
a few others play eachother like 5-5 Baylor who has 2 shots who could eliminate 4-6 TCU with a win but a loss means they have to beat 5-5 TT. TT plays Kansas State first and could eliminate them with a win but a loss keeps them alive to get to 6 while then game with Baylor could become an elimnation game.

so many scenarios that could play out that would leave more than just as many as 10