Game Thread: Week 16: Denver Broncos at Los Angeles Chargers

[fightinredantz]

Adam Schefter just said that Keenan Allen is not expected to play today. That will be help our secondary that is depleted by injuries and a suspension.

 

[SpringStein]

I understand your point of view there, but I don't know that I agree. We really don't know what this team could have been due the long list of things we have talked about all season. Not sure what area you think they have not tried to improve.

• Drafted Jeudy and Hamler to compliment Sutton to improve the passing game.
• Signed Glasglow to help the Oline.
• Signed Melvin Gordon to bring more to the running game.
• Traded for Casey and signed Shelby Harris to help with defense.
• Traded for Bouye and drafted Ojemudia for a better pass defense.

What hole did they not try to fill? Some of these moves were questioned by some, but the effort was made.

I listened to Broncos Country Tonight from the Broncos web site from 12/23 this morning and one thing they brought up is that the Broncos have been running less then a full offense. They also provided some statisical proof that Lock has show more improvement then maybe the we realized, and the lack of offseason. Below is a link to a subset of their show:

Broncos Country Tonight: Dec. 23

Ryan Edwards and Benjamin Allbright discuss potential backup quarterbacks who could be added in the offseason, how the stats and analytics show an upward trend in Drew Lock's game and Tim Jenkins of Jenkins Elite joins the show to break down Lock's progre

www.denverbroncos.com

That’s a good mechanical/scientific approach. Here are some of my questions:
How do players fit - are they a team or locker room full of individuals.
What is the dominant motivation? Fear? Loyalty? Respect?
Which players are providing leadership?
Which players call out lack of effort?(in some cases the same as the leaders, sometimes not)
Who is holding players accountable for their mistakes?
Who is holding coaches accountable for their mistakes?
Who is holding management accountable for their mistakes?
Who is holding the clown trio claiming to be in charge accountable?

Life is art and science and, yes, players win and lose games on their physical traits. But that’s only part of the whole painting.

 

[fightinredantz]

That’s a good mechanical/scientific approach. Here are some of my questions:
How do players fit - are they a team or locker room full of individuals.
What is the dominant motivation? Fear? Loyalty? Respect?
Which players are providing leadership?
Which players call out lack of effort?(in some cases the same as the leaders, sometimes not)
Who is holding players accountable for their mistakes?
Who is holding coaches accountable for their mistakes?
Who is holding management accountable for their mistakes?
Who is holding the clown trio claiming to be in charge accountable?

Life is art and science and, yes, players win and lose games on their physical traits. But that’s only part of the whole painting.

These are good questions and none of us have the answers to all. The bottom 2 is basically no one as there is not an owner. We all realize that this is an issue that needs to be resolved.

The leadership roles seem to have been vacant for part of the year with the leaders being on IR (Miller and Sutton), but I see other leaders are stepping up in Bolles/Jeudy/Lock and Chubb/Simmons. We need need to sign Simmons. I do think adding the additional leaders to this team will be a benefit going forward. I do think that having the Sutton and Miller out will pay dividends going forward, but they have been missed this year.

 

[fightinredantz]

Inactives today:
Denver Broncos:

• Jeff Driskel
• Tyrie Cleveland
• Bradly Chubb
• Sylvester Williams
• Demar Dotson

Los Angeles Chargers:

• Easton Stick
• Keenan Allen
• Joshua Kelley
• Tyree St. Louis
• Trey Pipkins
• Joey Bosa

Having both Allen and Bosa out is huge.

 

[SpringStein]

Promising first drive with an all too familiar ending.

 

[CEH]

Jeudy is looking really bad
Hands of stone

 

[CEH]

Herbert without an off-season is so much better than Lock. I know Elway really liked him coming out

 

[fightinredantz]

Two good drives that ended in disappointment (1 INT and a missed FG). The defense is competing. Offense needs to get a TD on the first drive of the second half.

Any feedback on the struggles of the offense? Poor play by Lock? Drops? I am watching the ESPN game center so hard to tell there.

 

[CEH]

Inaccurate passes Fant opened twice and when the passes are close drops by Juedy.

Herbert making the throws that Lock is not

double doink by McManus

 

[CEH]

Jeudy drops another this one a TD
Omg

 

[fightinredantz]

Jeudy drops another this one a TD
Omg

Well he can't be frustrated with a lack of targets, like he did was after the KC game. He has caught 5 of 11 targets. Not sure how many drops he might have, but one would hope he would catch a higher percentage then that.

 

[SpringStein]

Well he can't be frustrated with a lack of targets, like he did was after the KC game. He has caught 5 of 11 targets. Not sure how many drops he might have, but one would hope he would catch a higher percentage then that.

I’d say 4 were drops. But glad they keep targeting him, the only way to work it out.

 

[wingsauce7]

Broncos making me sick all-around today. Seems to be a complete lack of effort. I don't get it.

 

[CEH]

defense is playing well
It’s Jeudy who is killing drives
Wonder what he’ll tweet tonight

 

[fightinredantz]

Another nice drive, but this time it pays off in a TD. 16-13 Chargers with 6:31 to go in the 4th quarter. There is a chance, but need a defensive stand.

 

[Duffman]

As bad as certain people have looked today(*cough Jerry Jeudy**) and I can’t believe this game is tied.

 

[wingsauce7]

2 plays for LA and almost FG range.

 

[Broncoballs]

Lol

 

[SpringStein]

I thought Drew played pretty well. And Fangio made some good decisions.

 

[CEH]

Has there been a worst game for a WR
Not in Denver history
Maybe not in the NFL
He better come back next year and dominate
That was just sad and yes Terrible