The Raiders emerge as the favorite to land Randall Cobb....Thoughts, Raider Nation?

[idahoraiderfan33]

Albert Haynesworth was his name.........................I think.

Ya i remember that guy.. What a bust he turned out to be.. Im not saying Suh is that guy, but dang the cash looks the same, and both were DTs.. I like Knighton more.. That's the guy i HOPE we would get..

 

[DJ]

Knighton? I don't recognize the name....where did he play last season?

 

[DJ]

Yup.. Losing Cobb hurt more than losing Suh imo.. Cooper is like a Vet which is a good thing..

However, he's going to be a rookie in the NFL and I'd prefer we pair Carr with a veteran #1 WR to escalate his development.

 

[idahoraiderfan33]

Knighton? I don't recognize the name....where did he play last season?

The Donks DT.. He he is pretty good.. Rated right behind Suh for FA DTs..

 

[idahoraiderfan33]

However, he's going to be a rookie in the NFL and I'd prefer we pair Carr with a veteran #1 WR to escalate his development.

I agree big time.. Cooper would be good to break in slowly, then let him beast!! A good Vet WR in FA would be a score..

 

[DJ]

Hmmmmm. Denver's not expected to keep him?

 

[idahoraiderfan33]

Hmmmmm. Denver's not expected to keep him?

Oh they want him pretty bad.. But Money talks.. Look's like the Raiders took a pass on JT!! So says everybody.. Has a deal in place with Jags!! JDR, SAID PASS!! Im good with that, as he knows him better than me..

 

[Fountain City Blues]

So, Suh has a deal in place with Fins, that would pay him franchise QB money eh?? Crazy money..

Yeah, it's going to get even crazier with Houston I think. Sober reality for me, but I don't think you'll find three more impactful players on D than Suh, Houston, and Watt right now.

 

[DJ]

Damn, we're going to miss out on both premier DT's? Are there any DT's in college the Raiders might be looking at with our first round pick? Not sure of all the players available in college. Not a mock draft guru and DT is one of the positions we have to try and upgrade.

 

[DJ]

Yeah, it's going to get even crazier with Houston I think. Sober reality for me, but I don't think you'll find three more impactful players on D than Suh, Houston, and Watt right now.

If there's a moose on 3rd.....who's on 1st?

 

[Fountain City Blues]

If there's a moose on 3rd.....who's on 1st?

A Wizard of Hoz.

 

[DJ]

Julius Thomas to the Jags? Fuck.

That's another player I wanted us to look at.

 

[idahoraiderfan33]

Yeah, it's going to get even crazier with Houston I think. Sober reality for me, but I don't think you'll find three more impactful players on D than Suh, Houston, and Watt right now.

Houston is what you call IMPACT PLAYER.. Sack machine!! And will cost alot!! That guy is a true monster..

 

[DJ]

What the FUCK is JDR doing?

 

[idahoraiderfan33]

Julius Thomas to the Jags? Fuck.

That's another player I wanted us to look at.

That's the guy JDR took a pass on.. Seems like the Raiders didn't want the guy..

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Houston is what you call IMPACT PLAYER.. Sack machine!! And will cost alot!! That guy is a true monster..

Haven't seen anything quite like him in a Chiefs uniform. Not as a good a rusher as DT was- now that was a monster speed rusher if there ever was one. Houston is lightyears ahead of DT at the same age when it comes to setting the edge and coverage, however. I'll be very, very, very upset with the FO if he isn't a Chief for a very long time.

 

[DJ]

Derrick Thomas was the Chief player I respected the most as a Raider fan.

A fucking beast.

 

[idahoraiderfan33]

Haven't seen anything quite like him in a Chiefs uniform. Not as a good a rusher as DT was- now that was a monster speed rusher if there ever was one. Houston is lightyears ahead of DT at the same age when it comes to setting the edge and coverage, however. I'll be very, very, very upset with the FO if he isn't a Chief for a very long time.

DT was one of those once in a lifetime type players.. Those don't come around to often.. But Houston is right there!! I never talked about trying to get Houston, cuz there would be noway you guys would let him walk..

 

[idahoraiderfan33]

Let's see if our Raiders can get some good FAs!! And there is ALOT to choose from..

 

[cdumler7]

Damn, we're going to miss out on both premier DT's? Are there any DT's in college the Raiders might be looking at with our first round pick? Not sure of all the players available in college. Not a mock draft guru and DT is one of the positions we have to try and upgrade.

It will depend on how the draft plays out but the top rated player in the draft is a DT in Leonard Williams. Most likely he is gone by the time the Raiders pick but hey crazier things have happened. Behind him there are some pretty good DT's but I wouldn't say they are top-5 worthy. Maybe look more in the 2nd round or if you can trade back kind of thing.

As for Knighton he was a pretty good player for the Broncos. He is one of the best run stopping DT's in the NFL and works very well in Del Rio's style of defense. He won't offer much as a pass rusher although he does have a decent first step at times. Probably the only real negative about Knighton is he really struggles with his weight. The last 2 training camps with the Broncos he showed up over 30 lbs. overweight and got fined heavily by the team. Not really what you want out of a guy that is supposed to be one of the leaders on the defense. He also because of the weight struggles to play significant snaps like you expect. For the Broncos this last year he only played on 48% of all defensive snaps. Compare that to a guy like Suh who plays on over 80% of the defensive snaps and also plays on a decent number of special teams snaps.

Again great player and one the Broncos will most likely miss but he is wanting in the $7.5-8.5 million range for this upcoming season. A little too rich for a guy that only plays part time in my opinion.