The 2023-2024 NBA Season

[Stakesarehigh]

Or maybe his supporting cast is overrated

Are you Jokics publicist by chance?

 

[mr.hockey4242]

Talking about awards and who shoulda won

Does anyone have an issue with Conley winning NBA Mr. friendship?!?!?

 

[The Q]

Talking about awards and who shoulda won

Does anyone have an issue with Conley winning NBA Mr. friendship?!?!?

Yeah, unlikely anyone who went to Ohio st is friendly at all….

 

[shopson67]

If you're saying the vote should be on this year alone help me understand Jokic running away with MVP.

His defensive metrics are absurd and we've done that to death. If he was that dominant relative to the comp Denver would be unbeatable.

The NBA voters are getting extremely lazy.

None of the top 3 are defenders.

Denver has been a seemingly unstoppable force prior to these last 2 games (well after the MVP voting, BTW).

 

[shopson67]

Seems like a good hire, but so did ham

Both came from the bucks tree right?

Yep, which is why I'm not upset that he's off the board for the Lakers. I have similar concerns with Bud himself.

 

[shopson67]

Talking about awards and who shoulda won

Does anyone have an issue with Conley winning NBA Mr. friendship?!?!?

Didn't know that was a thing lol

 

[Stakesarehigh]

None of the top 3 are defenders.

Denver has been a seemingly unstoppable force prior to these last 2 games (well after the MVP voting, BTW).

*Looks at standings and scratches head*

 

[shopson67]

*Looks at standings and scratches head*

First of all, it's not a team award anyways. Is the 1 seed not high enough for you, two years running now?

 

[Stakesarehigh]

First of all, it's not a team award anyways. Is the 1 seed not high enough for you, two years running now?

So you may want to re read what I said here. I said I can live with him winning the award
...however I'm not okay with him running away with it

There is nothing I've seen this year that would indicate it was a one man season

 

[The Q]

So you may want to re read what I said here. I said I can live with him winning the award
...however I'm not okay with him running away with it

There is nothing I've seen this year that would indicate it was a one man season

Anyone else winning is rose over Lebron type stuff

 

[shopson67]

So you may want to re read what I said here. I said I can live with him winning the award
...however I'm not okay with him running away with it

There is nothing I've seen this year that would indicate it was a one man season

What difference does the margin make? Nobody will remember a few years later.

Besides, the margin doesn't mean it was a one man season. It just means that most people agreed on Jokic as the 1, and largely split on Shai/Luka at 2 and 3. The votes are weighted in addition.

Nikola Jokic: 79 18 20 0 926
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander:15 40 40 31 640
Luka Doncic: 4 36 50 8 0 566
Giannis Antetokounmpo:1 1 4 44 23 192
Jalen Brunson: 0 3 1 28 32 142
Jayson Tatum: 0 0 1 14 39 86
Anthony Edwards: 0 1 1 1 3 18
Domantas Sabonis; 0 0 0 1 0 3
Kevin Durant: 0 0 0 0 1 1

 

[tlance]

A young team got much better

This is unprecedented

Right…

But IMO that is as much or more because of the development of Chet, JDub and everyone else on the team as it is about SGA.

SGA was doing similar things last year.

I really don’t like when we try to credit one player for a team’s improvement. That type of thinking led to Chris Paul being an MVP finalist for the Suns a few years ago.

It would be one thing if the player in question had a major statistical jump that coincided with the team improvement. That isn’t what happened here.

 

[DJ]

Hornets hired Charles Lee as their new head coach.

Fuck.

 

[The Q]

Fuck.

Rip to their young players careers…

 

[DJ]

Hoping this doesn't mean what I think it means....

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Anyone else winning is rose over Lebron type stuff

Jokic is not Lebron and will never be Lebron.

 

[DJ]

Rip to their young players careers…

He worked with Charlotte's GM before I believe.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Right…

But IMO that is as much or more because of the development of Chet, JDub and everyone else on the team as it is about SGA.

SGA was doing similar things last year.

I really don’t like when we try to credit one player for a team’s improvement. That type of thinking led to Chris Paul being an MVP finalist for the Suns a few years ago.

It would be one thing if the player in question had a major statistical jump that coincided with the team improvement. That isn’t what happened here.

He made an enormous leap last year and yes his cast got better

When have we ever given a player MVP on his first year where he takes that leap? Ever?

He is the leader of the team with the best record in the West. His VORP is like 3rd and it isn't inflated by the bullshit Jokics is.

As a basketball junkie I take great offense to Jokic being in such limited company of 3 time MVPS.

 

[The Q]

He made an enormous leap last year and yes his cast got better

When have we ever given a player MVP on his first year where he takes that leap? Ever?

He is the leader of the team with the best record in the West. His VORP is like 3rd and it isn't inflated by the bullshit Jokics is.

As a basketball junkie I take great offense to Jokic being in such limited company of 3 time MVPS.

That inflated comment is laughably false

The positions have different stats treated differently, including pg

 

[Stakesarehigh]

That inflated comment is laughably false

The positions have different stats treated differently, including pg

Is Jokic the most valuable defender in the NBA? Is he better then Bam and Wemby and Gobert?

Vorp says he is.

And people are voting off that dumbass shit and not the games