Teams That Can Make the Playoff (11/6)

[foster4prez]

Seems we're at the point in the season where this makes sense. The following teams have a chance of making the playoff. If you are not on this list, your season is over.

Control their destiny - win and in
Florida State
Michigan
Ohio State
Washington
Oregon
Georgia
Alabama

Need a little help
Louisville
Texas
Penn State
Ole Miss

Need a lot of help
Utah
Iowa
Oklahoma State

That's it. No one else has a chance in hell.

 

[Hornsstampede2.0]

Control their destiny - win and in

I am not sure that ALABAMA & OREGON control their own destinies.

For example:

Washington, BIG-10, FSU, Texas would be an issue for Alabama.

Big-10, FSU, Alabama, Texas would be an issue for Oregon.

 

[foster4prez]

I am not sure that ALABAMA & OREGON control their own destinies.

For example:

Washington, BIG-10, FSU, Texas would be an issue for Alabama.

Big-10, FSU, Alabama, Texas would be an issue for Oregon.

12-1 Bama and 12-1 Oregon are in over 12-1 Texas.

 

[Hornsstampede2.0]

12-1 Bama and 12-1 Oregon are in over 12-1 Texas.

Obviously anything can happen...Texas could easily lose 4 in a row as much as win out.
But, I assume we are going with likely events.

1) Why would a 12-1 Alabama get in over a 12-1 Texas? Head to Head results would have to mean something. I seriously doubt human beings in the committee would just ignore that game in Tuscaloosa.

2) As for Oregon, look at the remaining schedules of relevant teams.
For Texas, (Kansas, Alabama, Okie Jr, and OU) don't play each other. In fact, its likely that most of them end up winning out.
Texas in theory could have wins versus 10-2 KU, 10-3 OSU, 11-1 Alabama...and a neutral loss to 10-2 OU.
Oregon doesn't have that luxury. Their relevant teams still play each other and also play Oregon. Losses will pile up.
The relevant teams wont have those gaudy records. Maybe at best an 11-1 Washington and 9-3 Utah...with some random 4 loss PAC as well.

3) Finally, Oregon played Texas Tech and was trailing with 54 seconds to go, and got outplayed most of the game.
Texas still gets to play them in Austin. A common opponent will be tough to ignore in a razor thin evaluation.

 

[belcherboy]

12-1 Bama and 12-1 Oregon are in over 12-1 Texas.

Would they not take the head to head game where Texas beat Bama in Alabama as the deciding factor between the two schools? Both teams would have identical records and both would be conference champions.

 

[PIBuckeye]

12-1 Bama and 12-1 Oregon are in over 12-1 Texas.

not bama........

 

[foster4prez]

Would they not take the head to head game where Texas beat Bama in Alabama as the deciding factor between the two schools? Both teams would have identical records and both would be conference champions.

Repeat after me “we looked at their full body of work and the team that Alabama grew into down the stretch including their win over the defending champion Georgia Bulldogs in the SEC Championship game was enough to put them over the top”

 

[belcherboy]

Repeat after me “we looked at their full body of work and the team that Alabama grew into down the stretch including their win over the defending champion Georgia Bulldogs in the SEC Championship game was enough to put them over the top”

i just don’t see the playoff committee giving Bana a playoff spot over a team they lost to, at home, when both teams are conference champs and have identical records. Both teams will also have a top 25 SOS at years end (I think they are both top 10 right now in SOS)

Under your scenario, would Texas get a spot ahead of Georgia?

 

[belcherboy]

Repeat after me “we looked at their full body of work and the team that Alabama grew into down the stretch including their win over the defending champion Georgia Bulldogs in the SEC Championship game was enough to put them over the top”

Here is an article that seems to share your thoughts on Bama: CFP Anger Index: Is the committee actually overlooking ... Alabama?!?!

 

[Mebert]

Current ranking show all pac 12 teams made the correct call leaving the conference. Michigan has not played a ranked opponent all year and sits at 2. Washington beat 2 and is at 5.

You can remove all pac12 teams but Washington from the list. No way any of them get in unless they go undefeated.

 

[foster4prez]

i just don’t see the playoff committee giving Bana a playoff spot over a team they lost to, at home, when both teams are conference champs and have identical records. Both teams will also have a top 25 SOS at years end (I think they are both top 10 right now in SOS)

Under your scenario, would Texas get a spot ahead of Georgia?

I think Texas would be ranked ahead of Georgia but potentially out of the playoff.

 

[boogiewithstu2007]

Go Huskies !!

 

[TheLonestarDUCK]

Obviously anything can happen...Texas could easily lose 4 in a row as much as win out.
But, I assume we are going with likely events.

1) Why would a 12-1 Alabama get in over a 12-1 Texas? Head to Head results would have to mean something. I seriously doubt human beings in the committee would just ignore that game in Tuscaloosa.

2) As for Oregon, look at the remaining schedules of relevant teams.
For Texas, (Kansas, Alabama, Okie Jr, and OU) don't play each other. In fact, its likely that most of them end up winning out.
Texas in theory could have wins versus 10-2 KU, 10-3 OSU, 11-1 Alabama...and a neutral loss to 10-2 OU.
Oregon doesn't have that luxury. Their relevant teams still play each other and also play Oregon. Losses will pile up.
The relevant teams wont have those gaudy records. Maybe at best an 11-1 Washington and 9-3 Utah...with some random 4 loss PAC as well.

3) Finally, Oregon played Texas Tech and was trailing with 54 seconds to go, and got outplayed most of the game.
Texas still gets to play them in Austin. A common opponent will be tough to ignore in a razor thin evaluation.

Using your logic. Texas just fell back because they struggled with TCU that Texas Tech handled.

 

[HuskerOC]

Not much has changed.

Alabama getting their shit together as the season rolls on. SEC could possibly get 2 in with Georgia and Bama if Bama runs the table.

B10 almost guaranteed a spot with Ohio State or Michigan.

Florida State not really dominating, but undefeated. Not completely sold they win out against Florida and likely Louisville in the ACC Championship.

Pac12 deserves at least one team in. Washington wins out, they are in, but a rematch with a really good Oregon team looms. Not sure they beat them at a neutral site next time. If that happens, does a 1 loss Oregon get in over a 1 loss Bama or Georgia? Could be a really tough decision if it were to happen.

Seeing the Big12 as definitely sitting on the outside. Texas is just scraping by every week, and aren't undefeated. Need a lot of help.

 

[BigKen]

Whoever brings in the largest money gets in.

Georgia, Alabama, Ohio State, Florida State, Michigan are big money draws.

Washington doesn't have the big national draw.

 

[TheLonestarDUCK]

Whoever brings in the largest money gets in.

Georgia, Alabama, Ohio State, Florida State, Michigan are big money draws.

Washington doesn't have the big national draw.

Correct - 3 of those 5 teams will be in. But you should throw Texas in your list as well. Guess last year if it was up to you TCU would have been left out.

 

[trojanfight]

it will be interesting to see if saban gets to go on live tv just hours before the committee votes and lobby for his team to be in playoff.

 

[foster4prez]

So just to update on this from this weekend's games.

Control their destiny - win and in
Florida State
Michigan
Ohio State
Washington
Oregon
Georgia
Alabama

Need a little help
Louisville
Texas
Penn State
Ole Miss

Need a lot of help
Utah
Iowa
Oklahoma State
At this point it is going to be pretty chalky unless something really weird happens. Order of precedence probably looks something like...

B1G Champ
SEC Champ
Undefeated FSU
PAC Champ
Texas
12-1 ACC Champ Louisville
Non SEC Champ Georgia
12-1 Non-B1G Champ

 

[BigKen]

Guess last year if it was up to you TCU would have been left out

Nothin's up to me. All I say is follow the money. College sports is all about the money. Basketball. Football, Hockey, Baseball.

Used to be how well you played got you into the tournaments. Ain't so today.

Championship tournaments are huge money attractions. Small schools can't attract 100,000 fans or billionaire boosters.

 

[PIBuckeye]

Will we have a repeat of 2006 with Game of the Century Part II? very possible that OSU and Mich. could be ranked 1-2