Street Agents, the Godfather and Tidewater 7 on 7 camps, Thoroughbreads

[bigesse16]

Well, golly. You sanctimonious (look it up, it's a word) hypocrites.

Here is YOUR outfit, which is having its own 7 on 7 TODAY:

College Prep World

Now do you think that it MIGHT be a little bit interesting that the "Director of Academics" is an analyst for ... wait for it ... HOKIE HAVEN?

Or that the top guys listed on the staff are FORMER VT ATHLETES?

Who exactly is paying these guys, and what about lodging and food? Should we all look WEST (like towards Blacksburg)?

Gosh we don't need a big nasty investigation in Virginia, do we? Make sure you let Heather Dinich know that a Rivals guy (involved in RANKING and RATING players), has a this little thing going on.

Yeah bring it on, Hokies. By the time I get done with CPW, we'll see who is left standing. Out.

You're comparing a 7-on-7 team to a 7-on-7 camp. CPW is hosting the camp, they aren't fielding a team.

The camp has former VT and UVA players helping out: College Prep World Football Camp and Academic Symposium

 

[bigesse16]

Oh, by the way, Turtle Culter is there today. Now how did THAT happen? The picture of him there is on the twitter feed for the event.

Because CPW doesn't have an agenda. They are simply looking to help kids outside of sports.

 

[hoosrise]

Oh, I see. It's a "camp" rather than a "team", and they have "no agenda." My bad.

Now, if you take a little tour around their site, you will see plenty about "university visits" and residential visits. The academic director (listing a Woodbridge address but says Charlotte on his business profile) I guess just fell in with some VT athletes, and that the director produces content for VT sports is just one of those hit by lightning kinds of things. But you're probably right, the camp was surely an accidental event since the mission isn't about sports.

Here's my point - you guys have been spreading crap and attacking people when it suits you. You can't fathom why an elite athlete would not sign up with you, so it must be crooked. Unless you have something real, all of that is just crap. And I do consider the source.

So keep going Hokies, and I'll keep going. You want to post shit on ESPN boards, I can post there too. And my information will be better and much more precise than yours.

So clean up your street agents, please.

 

[hoosrise]

Here's a snippet about their pureness: College Prep World.

It really is a very good thing they do! They will analyze the depth chart, etc of schools and "help" you make a wise decision! Awesome. (Except remember, your HH rating is also important, and ESPN (the "academic director"'s employer) usually is interested in your decision too.)

I checked around and couldn't find this outfit (that apparently has been around for some 5-6 years) listed as a nonprofit. So I guess that means they are "for profit." Nothing wrong with that!

Come on, I've got a lotta more.

 

[VTscores]

Oh, I see. It's a "camp" rather than a "team", and they have "no agenda." My bad.

So keep going Hokies, and I'll keep going. You want to post shit on ESPN boards, I can post there too. And my information will be better and much more precise than yours.

So clean up your street agents, please.

So far, all you've proven is that you're both clueless AND rude.

 

[VTscores]

Hey, clueless, why don't you turn some of your keen powers of perception here:

Staff - 757 Sports Academy

I challenge you to go to their website and find out something about them. The difference between a legitimate service and something shady is the the legitimate service (CPW) actually has information about themselves on the website. The 757 Sports Academy only has information about the people who have used their service.

See the difference?

I don't believe anybody here has claimed an impropriety on the part of UVa. Maybe you should take that into account before you go off typing up accusations and unsupported half truths.

 

[Forty_Sixand2]

Wow are you a defensive bitch. Shape up and act like an adult.

 

[jeffro151]

Hey, clueless, why don't you turn some of your keen powers of perception here:

Staff - 757 Sports Academy

I challenge you to go to their website and find out something about them. The difference between a legitimate service and something shady is the the legitimate service (CPW) actually has information about themselves on the website. The 757 Sports Academy only has information about the people who have used their service.

See the difference?

I don't believe anybody here has claimed an impropriety on the part of UVa. Maybe you should take that into account before you go off typing up accusations and unsupported half truths.

VTGF has accused UVa & Mike London several times in this thread of illegal activity.

 

[hoosrise]

No sir, everything I've posted is backed up by links and facts. Nothing that was in the attack that started this thread has one iota of fact. Until that is acknowledged, I will keep my foot on your necks.

You did make a good point, though. One group has a nice website. Touche. That's French, which I hope you will get a chuckle over.

I'm quite glad that you posted, because it allows me to put even more facts out there.

Here's what your group has to say about its services. Now I will leave it to you to explain how this kind of report differs from typical athletic agent services, but I'm sure you'll come up with something. You'd better:

"We provide you with an analysis of up-to-date information about a particular college or colleges of your choice including information about its team, a depth chart, potential transfers and any other pertinent team information. This service is invaluable to any parent or student interested in a particular college or university for its athletic program. Definitely a must for parents and students interested in more than the just the basic facts about the team. The report is prepared by one of our college “specialists” assigned to that region or conference.

The report is developed by one of our college specialists assigned to that region or conference. Most of the specialists have either attended the school or are assigned to that school and its conference participants.

You will receive pertinent information about the college or university team of your choice and information such as coaching changes, team schemes and statistical data and analysis.

After you receive the report, one of our specialists will contact you to discuss the report and answer any questions you may have about the team. Your specialist will be familiar with the teams and can even give tips to help you gain that needed edge.

All results are confidential and private to the families involved."

Really. Oh, and you can count on really solid independent advice. Like having one of the partners who wrote this: http://virginiatech.rivals.com/content.asp?highlight=reginald&CID=1314968. I'll look into the booster rules and let you know, okay? Probably it is okay for a former player to give confidential analysis with his break down on why a kid should go here or there. And Dashawn Hand happens to go to high school where? And the camp started when? I dunno, I'm just a country boy.

I'm NOT saying that these guys are doing even one thing wrong. Nope, no sir. I, for example, have not called for an investigation or used terms like "Godfather."

But I am saying that this thread, that some of you have spread elsewhere, has called out kids and their parents and basically accused them of being crooks. That is low, and if you want to keep going, I've got lots of more. Come on, I'm right here.

 

[hoosrise]

I don't believe anybody here has claimed an impropriety on the part of UVa. Maybe you should take that into account before you go off typing up accusations and unsupported half truths.

Dude, you guys sure have done just that. Read the junk above. It's in writing. That means words, like. Read the very opening post and tell me whether someone has been typing up accusations and half truths. And I've seen the follow ups on other sites.

Camps and teams get formed all over the place. They all are probably doing mostly the same thing, more or less. You guys started this.

 

[VTscores]

Dude, you guys sure have done just that. Read the junk above. It's in writing. That means words, like. Read the very opening post and tell me whether someone has been typing up accusations and half truths. And I've seen the follow ups on other sites.

Camps and teams get formed all over the place. They all are probably doing mostly the same thing, more or less. You guys started this.

The mistake YOU make is in all of the many bad assumptions you are making.

1) Calling CPW "your" organization. Pretty sure I don't own it, and none of the rest of the guys here do, either. The primary players in this organization might be Virginia Tech grads, but that doesn't mean the organization is directly affiliated with Virginia Tech.

2) Thinking that all of these organizations are all the same. I'm not at all convinced of that at all. There is a legitimate need to help people get into the university of their choice. There is a huge, legitimate industry doing this, and a lot of emphasis these days is on sports.

For someone who claims the intelligence and education that you do, you sure are making a lot of rookie mistakes.

If you disagree with something someone says, I encourage you to debate them. But to make up a bunch of half-baked accusations and associations of your own is simply stooping to the level that you claim they're on. I don't know if you're better than that or not, but you claim to be. You couldn't prove it by your sad display here, though.

I challenge you to defend the 757 sports academy, if you think you can. Otherwise, I'm not sure why you're even posting on this thread. A more legitimate argument would be that London isn't associated with this group. I haven't seen any proof that he is.

What's truly ironic is you come here all full of insults and discussion about how intelligent you are, and then you bring such a weak argument. Word of advice: take the high ground in an argument, don't just grab at straws.

 

[VTscores]

No sir, everything I've posted is backed up by links and facts. Nothing that was in the attack that started this thread has one iota of fact. Until that is acknowledged, I will keep my foot on your necks.

The only place you've put your foot is in your mouth.

 

[hoosrise]

High ground.

You don't want to talk about facts. As typical, every post is half smack, half bs.

You see, I don't have to defend anything. Nobody has any idea about 757 one way or another. You guys get on your high horse and start this crap, and chest bump I guess. That is pretty much what people expect of you.

But this time you have a problem. There is another operation, and the publicly available facts are right there. Again, I'm not saying they aren't anything but honorable and straight. There are some issues, though, don't you think? Some conflicts of interest, maybe. Does one of the key guys get paid to promote VT athletics while at the same time be around issuing confidential advisories to 14-17 year old kids? I don't know, maybe he writes for HH for free. OK, you don't have the least bit of reservation about that. I get that.

But you know what? There's got to be some accountability, and I'm going to provide that to you even if you don't like it. You guys started a smear campaign about 757, accused UVA coaches of being complicit financially, and the like. All I've done is take straight up public information and put it out there, with the suggestion that "whoa, this is interesting." And there's more, and more.

CPW can be a really beneficial thing. Absolutely. But sooner or later you guys have to understand that you can't just go postal on every thing that a rival does. You have no balance or restraint, or class.

So list for me, sir, the facts that merit 757 being promoted - promoted! - on national media for corruption. Tell me right here. List your facts. I've listed concerns from direct sources.

Here, I'll give you something. CPW had some 757 and UVA people at the event. Good for them, though it doesn't impress me so much after reading about the confidential analyses. But you guys are the ones claiming corruption about scheduling, travel, meals, lodging, coaches' funding, criminality, etc. Bottom line. I totally get that you don't like it.

So the OP can retract the accusations or back down. If not, then there has to be a counterbalance. But mine will be clear and based on direct sources. Do you have that about 757?

 

[Forty_Sixand2]

Hey hoosrise,

You are a guest here. Lose the fucking attitude or take your bullshit to the UVA board.

One guy here has accused UVA of anything. The rest are bitter that Virginia is turning into Florida.

 

[VTscores]

High ground.

You don't want to talk about facts. As typical, every post is half smack, half bs.

You've described your own posts perfectly. I gave you the chance to redeem yourself, and you blew it.

If you had half a brain, you'd have understood my point, but it flew right over your head. My point was that you know something about CPW precisely because they're a legitimate operation, and they have no problem with letting you know all about them.

The other organization draws scrutiny precisely because they make it so difficult to know anything about them. They're a pretty dodgy organization. I don't know if they're legit or not, but it's worth finding out.

Funny, it seems you should be worried about the leadership of your university, who just fired their president, only to hire them back three weeks later. Even more baffling, they kept the same rector who pulled the coup to fire her.

Talk about fishy. Man, your university has some funny business going on.

 

[Forty_Sixand2]

High ground.

You don't want to talk about facts. As typical, every post is half smack, half bs.

It is very clear on here what has been posted as fact and what is conjecture. 2/3 of what you say is conjecture as well. You post a webpage and then your interpretation. You post a quoted an then YOUR interpretation...etc...etc...etc....

You see, I don't have to defend anything. Nobody has any idea about 757 one way or another. You guys get on your high horse and start this crap, and chest bump I guess. That is pretty much what people expect of you.

Actually many of our insiders know PLENTY about the 757 and have proved this over the past year. What people expect out of us, as Hokies, however is well......making you fuckers feel very insecure.

But this time you have a problem. There is another operation, and the publicly available facts are right there. Again, I'm not saying they aren't anything but honorable and straight. There are some issues, though, don't you think? Some conflicts of interest, maybe. Does one of the key guys get paid to promote VT athletics while at the same time be around issuing confidential advisories to 14-17 year old kids? I don't know, maybe he writes for HH for free. OK, you don't have the least bit of reservation about that. I get that.

See point 1

But you know what? There's got to be some accountability, and I'm going to provide that to you even if you don't like it. You guys started a smear campaign about 757, accused UVA coaches of being complicit financially, and the like. All I've done is take straight up public information and put it out there, with the suggestion that "whoa, this is interesting." And there's more, and more.

You are letting your insecuties get the best of you. People are talking about the camps, not their connection to Cee Lo. Hell, Groh was more of a threat to VT than London has been. No Hokie fan is worried about UVA. We are busy worrying about our perception in BCS games, something you are so far from you can't even the shine of their lights.

CPW can be a really beneficial thing. Absolutely. But sooner or later you guys have to understand that you can't just go postal on every thing that a rival does. You have no balance or restraint, or class.

This is hilarious. If London even was cheating he is doing terrible at it. I am pretty sure that he isn't. he is just terrible at gameday coaching and talent evaluation.

So list for me, sir, the facts that merit 757 being promoted - promoted! - on national media for corruption. Tell me right here. List your facts. I've listed concerns from direct sources.

Linking a website, is not posting facts. I assume that you are not a UVA student, or you would know that.

Here, I'll give you something. CPW had some 757 and UVA people at the event. Good for them, though it doesn't impress me so much after reading about the confidential analyses. But you guys are the ones claiming corruption about scheduling, travel, meals, lodging, coaches' funding, criminality, etc. Bottom line. I totally get that you don't like it.

So the OP can retract the accusations or back down. If not, then there has to be a counterbalance. But mine will be clear and based on direct sources. Do you have that about 757?

OR, WE CAN CONTINUE to post whatever the fuck we want to post on our HOKIE board and enjoy each other company. Once again, you have a UVA board, go use it. If ou think that you can come on here and faux-tough guy bullshit and act liek you are backing it up with ANYTHING, you are high. VTFF and Evan etc have earned their stripes here, and we trust them because they have been right 99.9% of the time.

 

[Ragingcroc]

Hey hoosrise,

You are a guest here. Lose the fucking attitude or take your bullshit to the UVA board.

 

[Forty_Sixand2]

You are what you are accusing others of. It is hilariously ironic!

 

[hoosrise]

OK, you agree with them. Point taken. It's legit when you say it's legit. It's not when you say it's not. Who can argue with 99.9%? I didn't expect anybody to say "hey, we really don't know about all of this sh&t." When this kind of junk is posted on an internet board, and spread around, you can't really expect or deserve some kind of immunity. It's hard to get it back at you. Later.

 

[Forty_Sixand2]

Read through the fucking thread before coming in here and getting all defensive. As I said, ONE person said anything about UVA. UVA is the least of any Hokies concerns, man. Get the fuck over yourself. VTFF and Evan have proven themselves. Who the hell are you?