I hate this conversation because it always comes off like I’m dissing a really good player. He’s a very good player and he’s important to the Heat’s success. While he may have gotten better as a defender or a playmaker he’s coming from a very low bar that was set when he came into the league. I hope he’s improved there because those things had been subpar. This is why he used to come off the bench up until last year (? I think I have that time table right). I’m likely inflating Derrick White but I’m not gonna apologize for that. I place a high value on two way players when I assess players. We’ve gone back and forth enough through the years where you know I’m not just taking a convenient stance here.
If we put together your perfect Heat roster is Herro the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd option? (We’re being realistic here not some 92 Dream Team shit)
3rd option but i disagree on the shot attempts. If you have a big 3, all are usually at 13-14 shots or more. I can find a lot of recent big 3s and you wont normally see that 3rd guy under 13 attempts
That’s 5-6 makes a game and about 14–15 PPG from a one way player. Last year White was 12.5 PPG on only 8.5 shots per game. I’m taking that and the elite D all day long.
Herro’s career high is 41. Im just saying those guys are elite scorers. I’m trying to isolate a certain skill. I posted their career highs to help substantiate them as elite scorers. In fact, Dame has gone 6-7 game stretches where he has averaged Herro’s career high.
Thats fine. I made 2 points regarding this
Fair. And to substantiate your point, regular season Jimmy doesn’t need to hoist a ton of shots. He takes the “right” play the defense gives them.
For the Heat? With Jimmy (just made the comment about regular season Jimmy) and Bam I agree that Herro is a better fit for their Big 3. If I’m able to just start a team from scratch with no boundaries, I’m gonna D White over Herro all day long. Not gonna do it now but I would venture to say D White is a better 3rd option than Herro on current NBA rosters to the tune of a ratio that approximates 2:1.
I mean herro need to be around 2 guys that complement him well so for example white is a much better fit than him on boston than herro since their top 2 are perimeter players
I generally want my ideal 3rd option to be efficient on limited shots while also bringing elite defense. I want my top 2 options to do what Herro does but better.
Herro is our 2nd option on offense and our 3rd best player. He’s the only one who can create his own offense besides Jimmy.
No he wouldn't because he thinks Maxey is better than Donovan Mitchell
Nope. Not sure why this is a question when Maxey is better than White and Herro.
Lol. He must be joking
Maxey is a shitty defensive player, is he not? That same reasoning you used for White being better than Herro, you may also use it for White being better than Maxey as well.
He doesn't like white players
Man white people just can't catch a break
