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Series Thread: Rangers Travel to St. Pete to Take on the Rays September 16-18

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Not watching game but looks like Otto is getting touched up
 

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SIDENOTE. I don’t think walks are a result of bad defense
At times they could be. Bad defense prolongs innings and long innings leads to more opportunities to walk guys and long innings leads to pitchers becoming more fatigued and maybe losing control because of that fatigue.

On the other hand, bad control leads to longer innings, and that can lead to bad defense.

You could also say, a good offense leads to a pitcher having more confidence, which leads to the pitcher throwing more strikes because he knows if those strikes turn into hits, he isn't necessarily going to lose a 3 to 2 ballgame.

It's funny how it all works together.
 

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And Spings on the mound who has had a great year who really did not perform well for Rangers and BoSox but Rays evidently transform.

What is that magic they have?
 

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both interesting stats. Now where do we stand in walks via the pen?
Hopefully this works: 2022 Texas Rangers Statistics | Baseball-Reference.com

If you go to Team Pitching, uncheck the "When table is sorted" box then click on BB9 you'll see who has the highest amount of walks per 9 innings. Lowest starter is Gray at #8 with 2.8 per 9 innings...

I'd say it's roughly half/half between SP and RP...
 
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And Spings on the mound who has had a great year who really did not perform well for Rangers and BoSox but Rays evidently transform.

What is that magic they have?
The Rangers need to hire some of their pitching coaches and see if they can make the Rangers pitching better.
 

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Burke walked in a run. Hard to win like that.
 

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Bad walks that had zero to do with defense
 

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Burke walked in a run. Hard to win like that.
Last one to a terrible hitter. Bad break with Infield hit. Give you that and one ball thst imo clearly missed the call
 

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At times they could be. Bad defense prolongs innings and long innings leads to more opportunities to walk guys and long innings leads to pitchers becoming more fatigued and maybe losing control because of that fatigue.

On the other hand, bad control leads to longer innings, and that can lead to bad defense.

You could also say, a good offense leads to a pitcher having more confidence, which leads to the pitcher throwing more strikes because he knows if those strikes turn into hits, he isn't necessarily going to lose a 3 to 2 ballgame.

It's funny how it all works together.
Counter point bottom of 6th for Burke
 

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Think they lost the game though
 

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So who of the young starters are you going to replace with Syndergaards (half a run better) 4.18 ERA for $20M more???
So who are you going to replace in the BP with Rogers 4.53 ERA for $6-8M more???
Do you actually think Diaz will come here after getting very large dollars thrown at him by large market teams, he makes $10M now???



You have to wonder how many of the pitchers ERAs have suffered because the defense is one of the worst in the league at committing errors and boneheaded plays, only 3 teams have committed more... :L
okay i was thinking we want to improve the team for next year, but it isn't necessary we can just continue as we are
 

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so Solak is done for the year official on Tuesday. who do they bring up for the last games?
 

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so Solak is done for the year official on Tuesday. who do they bring up for the last games?
wry hard to say as we want Zeke to get ABs elsewhere there is Ibanez and Viloria.
Not thinking there is another option unless we open up another 40 man spot and move directly up.
My guess is Ibanez it easily could be wrong Nith may be in rostered by year end
 

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And Spings on the mound who has had a great year who really did not perform well for Rangers and BoSox but Rays evidently transform.

What is that magic they have?
It is called having better developmental and coaching staffs. Lol
 
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