Phillies Vs Reds Series.

[Cedrique]

Ben Lively is on a roll. 7 IP 12Ks , 0 runs today

 

[Omar 382]

Ben Lively is on a roll. 7 IP 12Ks , 0 runs today

Official Minor League Thread

 

[northeastphillyguy]

Looks like Joseph is getting the Darin Ruf treatment. Mack is an idiot for keeping this kid out of the game.
Play one game and sit two or three games. Looks like he is trying to convince Joseph that he can't hit righties.
Managers get fixated on that stuff thinking it automatically applies to everybody.

 

[Retroram52]

Nary a truer word was related Northeast. I was starting to think some similar about Joseph but you beat me to the post but you are spot on. MacKinin is a dope for doing this when he has a first baseman that can really do well for the Phillies and perhaps MacKinin's blindness is keeping him from seeing that the Ruf treatment he is blinding doing to Joseph has no short or long term upside!

 

[northeastphillyguy]

Nary a truer word was related Northeast. I was starting to think some similar about Joseph but you beat me to the post but you are spot on. MacKinin is a dope for doing this when he has a first baseman that can really do well for the Phillies and perhaps MacKinin's blindness is keeping him from seeing that the Ruf treatment he is blinding doing to Joseph has no short or long term upside!

Yeah, no question retro. Nothing positive can come from stupidity. Lets see, call a guy up to the majors because he is hot and your current 1st baseman is cold. Then punish him with bench rot. Screw with his mind while destroying his confidence. I once thought that was an Amaro exclusive, but not anymore.

 

[Retroram52]

Yep, me too!

 

[buster]

Phils have nothing to lose by playing Joseph on the reg.
You know what you're getting with Howard, and this season, as promising as it has started out, is going nowhere.
They need to know whether Joseph can play at this level, the sooner the better.

 

[_phiLLies_]

Looks like Joseph is getting the Darin Ruf treatment. Mack is an idiot for keeping this kid out of the game.
Play one game and sit two or three games. Looks like he is trying to convince Joseph that he can't hit righties.
Managers get fixated on that stuff thinking it automatically applies to everybody.

you do realize not everyone is an automatic starter, correct? one hot month gets him the callup, not a permanent spot on the team. the phils face a lefty tonight and tomorrow, which he is supposed to start against. that's 3 games out his first 5.

his defense is spotty and he's still learning his position. you have to prove you can do something to earn more time. that's the way sports and jobs work in general. wasn't that long ago everyone was making fun of joseph and calling amaro an idiot. of course, now someone else is an idiot for not playing joseph every second because he had a good month.

fans are fans for a reason. mackanin has guided this team, that has barely started their rebuild, to a winning record since last year's all-star break. this after sandberg looked like he had no clue what he was doing. i'm pretty sure he's not an idiot. next thing you know, he'll be called "braindead."

 

[northeastphillyguy]

How can Joseph earn anything sitting on the bench? Yes his defense is spotty but so is Howards. We are building
for the future. Give Joseph playing time against all pitching.

 

[Cedrique]

It's only been a couple games so hopefully they give him a few shots here and there against RH starters too and for his sake, hopefully he takes advantage of any opportunity they give him. It's tough to break through in a situation like this but it is not impossible. Jayson Werth came here as a right handed complement to Geoff Jenkins and played his way into a starting role and ended up making millions of dollars in free agency. (of course Werth was a very good defensive outfielder and could play all three positions so that helped)

 

[jvett77]

Looks like Joseph is getting the Darin Ruf treatment. Mack is an idiot for keeping this kid out of the game.
Play one game and sit two or three games. Looks like he is trying to convince Joseph that he can't hit righties.
Managers get fixated on that stuff thinking it automatically applies to everybody.

The odd thing is that righties hit Straily at .275 vs .121 so no reason for Joseph to be out of the lineup.

 

[jvett77]

Nary a truer word was related Northeast. I was starting to think some similar about Joseph but you beat me to the post but you are spot on. MacKinin is a dope for doing this when he has a first baseman that can really do well for the Phillies and perhaps MacKinin's blindness is keeping him from seeing that the Ruf treatment he is blinding doing to Joseph has no short or long term upside!

Holy crap, retro, you're suggesting BD #2?

 

[Cedrique]

I think we should give it some time to play out. It's only been three games since he got here. Also, we have two lefties in a row coming up against Miami so we'll see if he gets a chance.

 

[northeastphillyguy]

The odd thing is that righties hit Straily at .275 vs .121 so no reason for Joseph to be out of the lineup.

Good point jvett. Where re the stats guys when you need them? However, it's the managers fixation
about righties and lefties that can limit a players chances. Short sighted in my opinion. By the way A sports
writer mentioned that Ruf never had more than 3 starts in a row and that is not enough time to get a rythm
going. He also suggests that the Phillies should bench Howard for a while to see if Joseph has what it takes
at the plate. Our future is not in Howard. We owe him nothing except big money.

 

[northeastphillyguy]

Why is Votto trying to make Philly his enemy? Not a smart move bro

Voto

 

[northeastphillyguy]

Voto

Veto Votto! He hates kids!

 

[WestCoastPhan]

Veto Votto! He hates kids!

who cares?

 

[jvett77]

Anyway, Votto should have ignored the fan taunting him and simply walked over and handed the ball to a kid.

 

[WestCoastPhan]

Anyway, Votto should have ignored the fan taunting him and simply walked over and handed the ball to a kid.

You sound like WIP! Making a non-story, a story. Really building this up...they even made a poll about it. Anything to get jerky fans calling up.

 

[jvett77]

You sound like WIP! Making a non-story, a story. Really building this up...they even made a poll about it. Anything to get jerky fans calling up.

lol. Why do you care? My uncle owns part of WIP. Update: Eat Me!