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off season thread 2024, new regime

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Brissett would be perfect. I just think he's gonna have better options in FA.
True but because we're all pulling for Harris to build a world-class organization, Jacoby might take another look our way.
 

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It serves two purposes...

1. It allows time for proper preparation of the rookie. He gets time to know the playbook from front to back and work on a few things that he needs to improve upon. (footwork, release, etc.) He also gets to see the starter during live games (the trade deadline is October 3st1= 7 games) Understand how games are called in the NFL by listening in on game days. Perhaps most importantly, it points out the success that patience brings in opposition to that old "sink or swim" BS (Perhaps it becomes a trend)

2. It hopefully, increases Howell's trade value! I'd certainly be pulling for him to play well before I benched him in favor of the re-signed Brissett.
If Howell plays well that is great. I agree. That will at best cause a QB controversy in the rookie HC first year and at worst the fan base is giving Peters the side eye for not drafting Harrison jr.

The reason I'm not mad at it is because I've seen QBs like Mahomes and Rodgers benifit from it. It will take balls of steel to sit Maye/Daniels week one though.
 

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Days of sitting top QB's is over very rare for it to happen anymore
 

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If he isn’t ready don’t draft him , number 2 overall has to be the day one starter you have to be able to beat out the latest placeholder qb if you are number 2 overall or the red flags will blow up
We'll have to disagree here. I have no problem giving a QB a year to learn. That's old school stuff. Fans are another story. You have to have someone who can play but not play so badly the fans are going nuts. You also need a HC that can explain it.

Now, if the HC feels he is ready then go for it just don't throw the guy to the wolves. I can't help of Kyle coming up with an offense (in the NFL) who created an offense that worked for Griffin. Had he not done that that ship would have sunk in year one.

JMO but there are no absolutes if you are running a good organization.
 

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True but because we're all pulling for Harris to build a world-class organization, Jacoby might take another look our way.
Jacoby is mid level at best so maybe it can work. Depends on the new coaching staff. New regime needs to find a WR and TE unless someone wasn't playing up to par.
 

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Ideally you would want a place holder that can be a mid-level QB so the fan base is not calling for the rookie to start if he is not ready.
I watched that 17 play highlight film of Caleb earlier. I am not going to rag on him, what I noticed was pretty much every completion came after the WR made his break. That can happen on certain routes in the NFL but he will have to learn to throw on time and to a spot on other routes. Not many college QBs throw with that much anticipation. The closest I saw to doing that was Penix but last night was not too good.
 

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If you draft a QB, you sit him next season and start SH. Either SH improves and his trade value rises rather significantly or we keep losing in year one of a rebuild and get another extremely high pick.
 

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i will bet good money our number 2 overall pick will not sit unless he is heath shuler part 2 .
 

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the Commanders finished the regular season ranked last in the league in points allowed (518) and total yardage allowed (6,612). Those numbers represent a precipitous fall from last season when they ranked 7th in points allowed and 3rd in yardage allowed.

our best bet to improve on this is through FA and drafting a wilson at LB
 

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According to Pro Football Reference, the Commanders did not pressure Dak Prescott once in the game. This season, there have only been three games in which a QB who played more than 50% of offensive snaps was not pressured. There have only been 20 games in which a QB playing over 50% of snaps experienced a pressure rate lower than 5% of dropbacks. Washington’s defense was responsible for four of those games (@ Patriots 4.3%, vs Dolphins 4.2%, vs 49ers 3.4%, vs Cowboys 0%).
 

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At the start of the season, Commanders fans looked forward to significant improvements on offense with Eric Bieniemy replace Scott Turner at offensive coordinator and Sam Howell replacing Carson Wentz and Taylor Heinicke at QB. At the conclusion of the season, the Commanders had improved on their 2022 scoring total by 8 points (329 vs 321) while dropping from 24th to 25th in the league in scoring. Their yardage total dropped by 298 yards, falling from 5,615 in 2022 to 5,317 in 2023, which corresponded to a drop in the league ranking from 20th to 24th place.
 

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Eric Bieniemy calling the most passing plays (636 attempts) and the highest proportion of passing plays (63.9%) in the NFL, the Commanders’ fortunes rose and fell with the performance of first year starting QB Sam Howell. Through the first 10 games, of the season, he delivered and averaged 278 passing yards per game, while throwing 17 TDs to 9 INTs. Then something happened to cause his play to crater. Through the final 8 games of the season, Howell averaged 166 passing yards per game, while throwing just 4 TDs to 12 INTs.
 

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For any Commanders fans taking solace that their team is not the worst in the NFL, don’t be so sure of that. While it is conventional to measure a team’s season record in terms of wins and losses, another way to look at it is point differential. The 2023 Commanders were outscored by their opponents by 189 points. That point differential ranked dead last in the league, beating the only team with a worse W-L record by 9 points. The 4-13 Commanders can therefore make a legitimate claim to be the only team worse than the 2-15 Panthers. Unfortunately for them, draft position is awarded based on W-L record.
 

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Since replacing Wylie, Scott has allowed 10 pressures on 89 pass blocking snaps. His pressure rate of 11.2% is an improvement over Wylie, who gave up pressures on 14.8% of pass blocking snaps (42 pressures/284 snaps). However, it is worth bearing in mind that good offensive tackles give up pressures on less than 4% of pass blocking snaps. The Commanders absolutely have to do better next season.

this right here puts a hole in the argument that sam was responsible for most of the sacks . i dont think he is responsible for anymore sacks then your standard , i said standard qb
 

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Emmanuel Forbes made 5 solo tackles and missed an amazing 4 more. That is a 44.4% missed tackle rate. He allowed receptions on 7/7 targets for 66 yards and 1 TD (145.5 opposing passer rating). If that’s not great value from a mid-first round draft pick, I don’t know what is., vs cowboys

at best this guy becomes a davis . he might be servicable at best . so far we whiffed on him . we whiffed on clowney , whiffed on davis , dotson was trending downward , and forbes is a whiff . right now none is worth a 5th yr on the rookie deals with dotson still in the hunt to get one
 

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Quan Martin made 3 solo tackles with 1 assist and 1 missed tackle. In coverage, he allowed 2 receptions on 4 targets for 7 yards with 1 interception and 1 pass breakup (opposing passer rating 16.7)., i was hard on this guy however , he looks like the only salvageable draft pick from this last draft , maybe stromberg
 
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