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Maybe this isn't "news" but with the NFL draft around the corner, how many GMs are on the hot seat if this year's selections don't work out? How many GMs are new and want to make a splash?

4 GMs are essentially rookies themselves. (LAC, CAR, WSH, NE)
2 are in their 2nd year. (TEN, ARI)
4 are entering year 3. (MIN, PIT, CHI, NYG)

That's 10 GMs with less than 3 years experience.

If you include the 4 GMs going into year 4 (HOU, ATL, DEN, DET), that's nearly half the league with less than 4 year's experience.
Well Denver's GM is a GM in title only, so he'll likely simply be allowed to hang around until his contract is up. As soon as they hired Sean Peyton, George Paton became nothing more than a figurehead.

Supposedly he's a great evaluator of 'talent' so maybe he'd be a good 'director of scouting' somewhere?
 

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Broncos have their QB.... :nono:

Jets trade Zach Wilson to Denver.
that one had bene rumored since before the start of free agency, I had given up thinking about at this point. Former #2 overall for the cost of the difference between a 6th and a 7th. So long as all the Denver people keep their moms off the streets, not much of a risk.

Never know, maybe Sean Peyton can uncover what it was that made Wilson a #2 overall pick to begin with?


Tells me that Peyton and his "thankfully, we're better at it than everyone else" (referencing evaluating and selecting a rookie QB), was certainly pin pointing JJ McCarthy, who, at the time, was a late first/early second round projected pick that he was planning on snagging at #12. Between then and now, McCarthy's rise into he top 5 discussion has obviously changed Peyton's plan, and I wouldn't be convinced of them taking QB high..but I would bank on a Spencer Rattler/Michael Pratt or Joe Milton in the 3-5th area.
 

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that one had bene rumored since before the start of free agency, I had given up thinking about at this point. Former #2 overall for the cost of the difference between a 6th and a 7th. So long as all the Denver people keep their moms off the streets, not much of a risk.

Never know, maybe Sean Peyton can uncover what it was that made Wilson a #2 overall pick to begin with?


Tells me that Peyton and his "thankfully, we're better at it than everyone else" (referencing evaluating and selecting a rookie QB), was certainly pin pointing JJ McCarthy, who, at the time, was a late first/early second round projected pick that he was planning on snagging at #12. Between then and now, McCarthy's rise into he top 5 discussion has obviously changed Peyton's plan, and I wouldn't be convinced of them taking QB high..but I would bank on a Spencer Rattler/Michael Pratt or Joe Milton in the 3-5th area.

Just remember, Geno Smith was a bust with the Jets. He turned out ok.

Gonna be interesting here. Peyton talking smack, let's see if he knows what he's doing.

Btw, I'm hoping the Vikings hold onto their picks and go for the Rattler. Broncos pick Milton later on.
 

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Let's see if any of the QBs drafted this year hold a candle to Matty Ice.

Matt Ryan retired from the NFL after 15 seasons.

Ryan was the third overall pick of the 2008 NFL Draft and spent the first 14 years of his career with the Falcons. He and the Falcons immediately went 56-22 over his first four years in the league while making the playoffs in four of his first five seasons. In 2016, Ryan led the Falcons to an 11-5 record while clinching the NFC South along with his first and only MVP award. Unfortunately, that season also ended in a heartbreaking defeat, as the Falcons came up short on the infamous “28-3" game in Super Bowl LI. After a down 2021 season, Ryan moved on to the Colts in 2022. Looking like a shell of his former self, Ryan threw for 3057-14-13 in 12 starts for the Colts that season and wasn’t brought back in 2023 — by any team. Now ready to hang it up, Ryan retires as the Falcons’ all-time leader in passing yards (59,735) and passing touchdowns (367). He currently sits seventh on the NFL’s all-time passing yards list (62,792) and is ninth in career touchdown passes (381). Even without that lucrative championship, Ryan walks away as one of the most productive players at the quarterback position and should one day hear his name called for Canton.
 

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bored, so here's a few RBs that aren't on the top of people's lists right now that I'll be keeping tabs on day 3 landing spots

Jaylen Wright from Tennessee
Will Shipley from Clemson
Justin Strong from Southern Illinois; I walked onto their track/cross country team in college at the same time Brandon Jacobs was the RB there, always root hard for their guys on draft weekend
 

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bored, so here's a few RBs that aren't on the top of people's lists right now that I'll be keeping tabs on day 3 landing spots

Jaylen Wright from Tennessee
Will Shipley from Clemson
Justin Strong from Southern Illinois; I walked onto their track/cross country team in college at the same time Brandon Jacobs was the RB there, always root hard for their guys on draft weekend
Jaylen Wright is also on my list of guys I HOPE end up in a good spot, and that MIGHT surprise a little. I didn't see anything on film to get all that excited about, but he does have some physical traits/abilities, that if he blossoms a bit, he could be a very interesting piece. He could easily be that next guy who wasn't necessarily expected to be much of anything more than a complimentary/role player, that shocks everyone and tears it up for few seasons.
 

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Just remember, Geno Smith was a bust with the Jets. He turned out ok.

Gonna be interesting here. Peyton talking smack, let's see if he knows what he's doing.

Btw, I'm hoping the Vikings hold onto their picks and go for the Rattler. Broncos pick Milton later on.
I would hope the Broncos are shooting for more than "OK". But you ain't wrong. History is littered with guys like Rich Gannon, Fitzpatrick, Geno, etc..who ended up having very nice careers after being let downs early on
 

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Not Sure they think Wilson is the answer but he is a piece to the puzzle.

Puzzle Solve GIF by Pudgy Penguins
 

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Jaylen Wright is also on my list of guys I HOPE end up in a good spot, and that MIGHT surprise a little. I didn't see anything on film to get all that excited about, but he does have some physical traits/abilities, that if he blossoms a bit, he could be a very interesting piece. He could easily be that next guy who wasn't necessarily expected to be much of anything more than a complimentary/role player, that shocks everyone and tears it up for few seasons.
The knock on him is that he played against a lot of light boxes in college but that just means he is more of an unknown than a probable bust. I think if he goes to a pass heavy offense (like KC) he'll be really good.
 

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The knock on him is that he played against a lot of light boxes in college but that just means he is more of an unknown than a probable bust. I think if he goes to a pass heavy offense (like KC) he'll be really good.
well when I reviewed film of him..I saw a guy who went down WAY too easily from far too little contact- that's my knock on him
 

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well when I reviewed film of him..I saw a guy who went down WAY too easily from far too little contact- that's my knock on him
Still a fairly high floor for a fast guy who can catch the ball.
 

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heard this on the radio...

With the trade of Zach Wilson, all of the first round QB drafted in 2021 with the exception of Trevor Lawrence is on a different team.

Wilson
Lance
Fields
Jones
 

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heard this on the radio...

With the trade of Zach Wilson, all of the first round QB drafted in 2021 with the exception of Trevor Lawrence is on a different team.

Wilson
Lance
Fields
Jones
2022 too, for that matter!
 
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