Anyone in the market for a couple of QB's

[michaeljordan_fan]

Michigan State Offense was inept against all defenses last year. You can pretend like that Oregon had something to do with it, but there was 4 games last year where we didn’t score over 7 points. I would say it would be easier to play in the PAC rather than play OSU, Michigan, and Penn State every year.

Honestly it sounds like Michigan State smells regardless. You might as well embarrass yourself in your own time zone instead of heading to the west coast.

 

[7Samurai13]

Honestly it sounds like Michigan State smells regardless. You might as well embarrass yourself in your own time zone instead of heading to the west coast.

Yes. But again, none of that changes the fact that the PAC12 is a weak conference at this time. But keep avoiding that because you know it’s true.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

Yes. But again, none of that changes the fact that the PAC12 is a weak conference at this time. But keep avoiding that because you know it’s true.

PAC is stronger than the B1G...but whatever helps you sleep at night.

 

[7Samurai13]

PAC is stronger than the B1G...but whatever helps you sleep at night.

2018
Ohio State beat Oregon State and Washington (2-0)
Michigan State lost Arizona State and Oregon (2-2)
Nebraska lost to Colorado (2-3)


2017
Michigan State beat Washington State (1-0)
Minnesota beat Oregon State (2-0)
Nebraska lost to Oregon (2-1)
Ohio State beat USC (3-1)
Penn State beat Washington (4-1)
Purdue beat Arizona (5-1)
Rutgers lost to Washington (5-2)

2016
Penn State lost to USC (0-1)
Nebraska beat Oregon (1-1)
Michigan beat Colorado (2-1)
Rutgers lost to Washington (2-2)
Minnesota beat Oregon State and Washington State (4-2)

2015
Iowa lost to Stanford (0-1)
Michigan beat Oregon State and lost to Utah (1-2)
Michigan State beat Oregon (2-2)
Nebraska beat UCLA (3-2)
Northwestern beat Stanford (4-2)
Wisconsin beat USC (5-2)

I may have missed a game or two because it’s late and I’m going to bed. Feel free to correct me.

So you are right that the PAC12 is better than the Big Ten if you ignore the actual head to head games where the Big10 leads (16-9). Also if you want to ignore the fact that 8 out of the 14 BigTen teams have wins over ranked OOC opponents compared to 4 out of 12. So he’s if you ignore all the facts the PAC12 may be stronger.

Don’t get me wrong, the Big10 is not sitting very strong right now. But any non-biased person can see that the Big10 has been in a better situation recently.

 

[TheLonestarDUCK]

2018
Ohio State beat Oregon State and Washington (2-0)
Michigan State lost Arizona State and Oregon (2-2)
Nebraska lost to Colorado (2-3)


2017
Michigan State beat Washington State (1-0)
Minnesota beat Oregon State (2-0)
Nebraska lost to Oregon (2-1)
Ohio State beat USC (3-1)
Penn State beat Washington (4-1)
Purdue beat Arizona (5-1)
Rutgers lost to Washington (5-2)

2016
Penn State lost to USC (0-1)
Nebraska beat Oregon (1-1)
Michigan beat Colorado (2-1)
Rutgers lost to Washington (2-2)
Minnesota beat Oregon State and Washington State (4-2)

2015
Iowa lost to Stanford (0-1)
Michigan beat Oregon State and lost to Utah (1-2)
Michigan State beat Oregon (2-2)
Nebraska beat UCLA (3-2)
Northwestern beat Stanford (4-2)
Wisconsin beat USC (5-2)

I may have missed a game or two because it’s late and I’m going to bed. Feel free to correct me.

So you are right that the PAC12 is better than the Big Ten if you ignore the actual head to head games where the Big10 leads (16-9). Also if you want to ignore the fact that 8 out of the 14 BigTen teams have wins over ranked OOC opponents compared to 4 out of 12. So he’s if you ignore all the facts the PAC12 may be stronger.

Don’t get me wrong, the Big10 is not sitting very strong right now. But any non-biased person can see that the Big10 has been in a better situation recently.

Head to head the PAC beat the BIG in the 70's, 80's, 90's, 00's. The conference's are tight here in the 2010's, I believe the BIG is currently up a couple games. For whatever thats worth.

 

[7Samurai13]

Head to head the PAC beat the BIG in the 70's, 80's, 90's, 00's. The conference's are tight here in the 2010's, I believe the BIG is currently up a couple games. For whatever thats worth.

All time, yes the PAC12 may be better. But in the last few years, which again is what we are discussing, they are not.

 

[TheLonestarDUCK]

All time, yes the PAC12 may be better. But in the last few years, which again is what we are discussing, they are not.

Agreed