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But why did they vacate it? Could it be because the NCAA vacated the season?

You can't vacate what everyone saw. The complete destruction of Oklahoma by USC . You can take it off the books but we all saw that season they were the best team and the year before they should have been in the NCG.
 

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You can't vacate what everyone saw. The complete destruction of Oklahoma by USC . You can take it off the books but we all saw that season they were the best team and the year before they should have been in the NCG.
USC, the original UCF
 

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But why did they vacate it? Could it be because the NCAA vacated the season?
still not the same as the NCAA taking it away.
the other organization still had a choice.
same with the Heisman. Bush chose to forfeit the award. NCAA did not and could not take it away. Heisman trust could have but at that point had not.
 

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still not the same as the NCAA taking it away.
the other organization still had a choice.
same with the Heisman. Bush chose to forfeit the award. NCAA did not and could not take it away. Heisman trust could have but at that point had not.
You are arguing semantics. Do you actually believe anyone would vacate the national title or call for Bush to give up his Heisman had the NCAA did not act in the way that they did?
 

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That's one of the stupidest things I've read here . Real National Championships , real NFL hall of famers.
“Real” National Championship without even being in the national championship game? That sounds exactly like UCF.
You do know I’m just fucking with you right?
 

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Great...get back to me after his Junior year of High School, lol.

I know I'm a UW fan but it's hard not to be impressed by Sam Huard.

Top-10 overall recruit and the #1 QB. His father is a former UW starter and played in the NFL, same with his uncle. Not to mention here are the insane numbers he has put up at the high school level:

Freshman year: 3,432 passing yards and 34 passing touchdowns.
Sophomore year: 4,141 passing yards and 42 passing touchdowns.

Not often a kid that young is able to light the field up like that.
 

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“Real” National Championship without even being in the national championship game? That sounds exactly like UCF.
You do know I’m just fucking with you right?

Yup, bastard coaches poll kept a deserving USC team out. Fuckers





When you went to the UCF card I caught on. lol
 

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Just came here to laugh @7Samurai13 for making fun of the PAC-12's bowl record after Oregon kept Michigan State out of the endzone for 60 minutes.
 

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Just came here to laugh @7Samurai13 for making fun of the PAC-12's bowl record after Oregon kept Michigan State out of the endzone for 60 minutes.
Yes one team, one game. Doesn’t change the fact that when you look at the PAC12, the number of quality wins, do not nearly match up with other P5 conferences. The PAC12 also was jail sexed in their bowl games in 2017 going something like 1-7.

What you won’t see is me saying that Michigan State’s offense isn’t as bad as everyone thinks it is and it’s really strong. You know the thing PAC12 slappies are saying in this thread.

Now do you actually want to discuss the topic at hand, or do you want to deflect because you can’t actually defend the strength of the PAC12?
 

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Yes one team, one game. Doesn’t change the fact that when you look at the PAC12, the number of quality wins, do not nearly match up with other P5 conferences. The PAC12 also was jail sexed in their bowl games in 2017 going something like 1-7.

What you won’t see is me saying that Michigan State’s offense isn’t as bad as everyone thinks it is and it’s really strong. You know the thing PAC12 slappies are saying in this thread.

Now do you actually want to discuss the topic at hand, or do you want to deflect because you can’t actually defend the strength of the PAC12?

I'm glad to discuss Oregon's strength against Michigan State.
 

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I'm glad to discuss Oregon's strength against Michigan State.
Since you have no clue on what the discussion is about, let me catch you up.

OlyDuck was talking about how the QBs were transferring because Browning was a “winning QB” and 4 year starter went undrafted.

I asked how much of that had to do with them actually being good and how much of it has to do with the PAC being at one of its weakest times.

OlyDuck and AG states it isn’t because they are weak but they are actually better.

I said the wins over quality opponents isn’t there for anyone to prove that.

Nobody has been able to prove that the PAC12 is actually in a stronger position than they look.

It honestly has nothing to do with Michigan State and the only reason people are bringing them up is because they can’t actually defend the PAC.
 

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Since you have no clue on what the discussion is about, let me catch you up.

OlyDuck was talking about how the QBs were transferring because Browning was a “winning QB” and 4 year starter went undrafted.

I asked how much of that had to do with them actually being good and how much of it has to do with the PAC being at one of its weakest times.

OlyDuck and AG states it isn’t because they are weak but they are actually better.

I said the wins over quality opponents isn’t there for anyone to prove that.

Nobody has been able to prove that the PAC12 is actually in a stronger position than they look.

It honestly has nothing to do with Michigan State and the only reason people are bringing them up is because they can’t actually defend the PAC.

So you admit that Michigan St. couldn't compete in the PAC-12, eh?
 

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So you admit that Michigan St. couldn't compete in the PAC-12, eh?
They absolutely could. They gave Oregon all they could handle last year and it was the worst offense in over 20 years. The only reason you put points on the board was our top defensive player got injured.
 

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They absolutely could. They gave Oregon all they could handle last year and it was the worst offense in over 20 years. The only reason you put points on the board was our top defensive player got injured.

Michigan State is inept against PAC12 defenses. Why would they embarrass themselves 9 times a year?
 

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Michigan State is inept against PAC12 defenses. Why would they embarrass themselves 9 times a year?
Michigan State Offense was inept against all defenses last year. You can pretend like that Oregon had something to do with it, but there was 4 games last year where we didn’t score over 7 points. I would say it would be easier to play in the PAC rather than play OSU, Michigan, and Penn State every year.
 
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