Aaron Judge is on roids

[cerealboi]

There's a guy named Mike Trout who had 23 minor league home runs in 1,117 at bats, who in his rookie year hit 30 in 559 at bats...

1. Trout was 20 when he did that - probably still growing!
2. Trout hit his 30 in 639 plate appearances, or low and behold one about every 21 PAs. Which is right around where Judge and Sanchez were BEFORE they went on roids in the majors.

 

[StanMarsh51]

1. Trout was 20 when he did that - probably still growing!

So someone could be growing as a player at age 20 but can't be at age 23-25?

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Looks like Brett Gardner snuck into Judges' stash

 

[da55bums]

Mark McGuire
23 highest in any minor league season
49 his rookie year...

ooops, bad example

 

[Pastafazul]

No one should be, and no one will be excluded from accusations of the use of PED's, baseball & weightlifting, don't go, period!

Since selig created this mess, it hasn't stopped. Players will find a way to beat the system!

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

cereal is right

Probably. Still, it's kind of funny to see such concern about PED usage from a Sox fan.

 

[mr.hockey4242]

Given the Sox's lack of power these days, all I am asking is for the Yankees to stop hoarding the juice.

It appears the Sox have found the needles

 

[cerealboi]

It appears the Sox have found the needles

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

 

[scoutyjones2]

We're talking rookies. Can you give me an example of a rookie that significantly homered more in the majors than in the minors? The one recent example I could find is Trevor Story of the Rockies, but we know why one would hit more homers in Denver than New Mexico.

Albert Pujols

Mike Trout

Corey Seager

 

[black francis]

I wish the Royals would use roids

 

[cerealboi]

Albert Pujols

Mike Trout

Corey Seager

Pujols - Really? You're using Pujols as an example of a clean hitter? Okie dokie. I've got some ocean side real estate you may like in Oklahoma.

Already addressed Trout

Seager - homered about once every 31 PAs in the minors the year of his debut. The next year he increased that to a whopping homer per every 26 PAs. Not exactly the same as going from once ever 22 PAs to once every 8 PAs or going from once every 22 PAs to once every 11 PAs, now is it?

 

[StanMarsh51]

Pujols - Really? You're using Pujols as an example of a clean hitter? Okie dokie. I've got some ocean side real estate you may like in Oklahoma.

Already addressed Trout

Seager - homered about once every 31 PAs in the minors the year of his debut. The next year he increased that to a whopping homer per every 26 PAs. Not exactly the same as going from once ever 22 PAs to once every 8 PAs or going from once every 22 PAs to once every 11 PAs, now is it?

The problem with your argument is you're ignoring that over the course of the season, there's a good chance that Judge isn't going to maintain this pace. You're simply using too small of a sample size for his MLB season.

I mean, if Judge gets to 700 PAs this season, he'd have to hit 64 homers to stay on a HR per 11 PA pace....

 

[StanMarsh51]

Pujols - Really? You're using Pujols as an example of a clean hitter? Okie dokie. I've got some ocean side real estate you may like in Oklahoma.

Already addressed Trout

Seager - homered about once every 31 PAs in the minors the year of his debut. The next year he increased that to a whopping homer per every 26 PAs. Not exactly the same as going from once ever 22 PAs to once every 8 PAs or going from once every 22 PAs to once every 11 PAs, now is it?

How about Nomar going from a HR every 36 PAs in the minors (before his rookie year) to every 24 PAs in his rookie year...his minors HR rate was 50% worse than his rookie year rate.

 

[cerealboi]

How about Nomar going from a HR every 36 PAs in the minors (before his rookie year) to every 24 PAs in his rookie year...his minors HR rate was 50% worse than his rookie year rate.

Now you're proving my point. Think we all believe Nomar was dipping into a few extracurricular substances.

 

[StanMarsh51]

Now you're proving my point. Think we all believe Nomar was dipping into a few extracurricular substances.

You call that a roid body? A body type like that is pretty attainable for someone who works out/eats moderately healthy. It's not like he's Gabe Kapler jacked/ripped...

 

[cerealboi]

You call that a roid body? A body type like that is pretty attainable for someone who works out/eats healthy.

Based on where he was initially.

 

[StanMarsh51]

Based on where he was initially.

He was around 20-21 at the time he entered the minor leagues (when that card was likely made) and he was around 27 at the time of the SI cover (2001). Let's not act like that was an overnight body transformation (if someone puts on 5 lbs of muscle a year, that's 30 lbs in 6 years). That's very doable in 6-7 years with exercise and moderately healthy eating.

 

[cerealboi]

He was around 20-21 at the time he entered the minor leagues (when that card was likely made) and he was around 27 at the time of the SI cover (2001). Let's not act like that was an overnight body transformation (if someone puts on 5 lbs of muscle a year, that's 30 lbs in 6 years). That's very doable in 6-7 years with exercise and moderately healthy eating.

Trust me. I'd love to believe Nomar was clean, but I just think the bulk up + the power increase + the time period = likely roid use.

 

[redseat]

Now you're proving my point. Think we all believe Nomar was dipping into a few extracurricular substances.

He only was taking what Mia was having