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Surprise! This one is audience participation.
Starting Pitchers:
2009 - Paul Maholm, Ian Snell, Zach Duke, Ross Ohlendorf, Jeff Karstens
2012 - Erik Bedard, Jeff Karstens, James McDonald, A.J. Burnett, Charlie Morton
I like this rotation a lot better. 2009 rotation was terrible. Even if everyone had a career year at the same time it wouldn't have been all that good.
Bullpen:
2009 - Matt Capps, Tyler Yates, Craig Hansen, John Grabow, Donnie Veal, Sean Burnett, Jesse Chavez
2012 - Correia, Cruz, Grilli, Hanrahan, Hughes, Meek, Resop, Watson
This requires some imagination because I don't know which of these 8 would be removed from the bullpen if Burnett and Morton weren't on the DL. Doesn't really matter. The 2009 bullpen was not very good. Capps, Grabow, Burnett, and Chavez were probably the best of a weak group. I do believe that the 2012 version is better.
Outfield:
2009 - Nate McLouth, Nyjer Morgan, Brandon Moss, Craig Monroe
2012 - Nate McLouth, Andrew McCutchen, Jose Tabata, Alex Presley
Not even close. McLouth was highly regarded at the time and Morgan was always interesting. Moss turned out to be a terrible failure but we never had much more than optimism for him. The 2012 version makes it's superiority clearly felt by using the best of the 2009 group as the 2012 group's backup.
Infield:
2009 - Adam LaRoche, Freddy Sanchez, Jack Wilson, Andy LaRoche, Ramon Vazquez, Eric Hinske
2012 - Garret Jones, Neil Walker, Clint Barmes, Pedro Alvarez, Casey McGehee, Matt Hague, Yamaico Navarro, Josh Harrison
This isn't so clear to me. Adam Laroche was (and is) a pretty fair 1B. Yeah he's got an extremely strange spring summer split but at the end of the year he's always got good figures. I'd be happy to have him back if we could.
Sanchez was never as good as he was made out to be but Wilson was one of the best defensive SS in the league. We can only hope that Barmes gives us something close to his level of production.
On the other hand Andy LaRoche, Vazquez, Hinske - not much to talk about. The current iteration has higher ceilings and more options.
Catchers:
2009 - Ryan Doumit, Jason Jarmillo
2012 - Rod Barajas, Mike McKenry
We traded hitting catchers for fielding catchers. I think McKenry is an ideal backup catcher but I'd take Doumit back if I could.
Starting Pitchers:
2009 - Paul Maholm, Ian Snell, Zach Duke, Ross Ohlendorf, Jeff Karstens
2012 - Erik Bedard, Jeff Karstens, James McDonald, A.J. Burnett, Charlie Morton
I like this rotation a lot better. 2009 rotation was terrible. Even if everyone had a career year at the same time it wouldn't have been all that good.
Bullpen:
2009 - Matt Capps, Tyler Yates, Craig Hansen, John Grabow, Donnie Veal, Sean Burnett, Jesse Chavez
2012 - Correia, Cruz, Grilli, Hanrahan, Hughes, Meek, Resop, Watson
This requires some imagination because I don't know which of these 8 would be removed from the bullpen if Burnett and Morton weren't on the DL. Doesn't really matter. The 2009 bullpen was not very good. Capps, Grabow, Burnett, and Chavez were probably the best of a weak group. I do believe that the 2012 version is better.
Outfield:
2009 - Nate McLouth, Nyjer Morgan, Brandon Moss, Craig Monroe
2012 - Nate McLouth, Andrew McCutchen, Jose Tabata, Alex Presley
Not even close. McLouth was highly regarded at the time and Morgan was always interesting. Moss turned out to be a terrible failure but we never had much more than optimism for him. The 2012 version makes it's superiority clearly felt by using the best of the 2009 group as the 2012 group's backup.
Infield:
2009 - Adam LaRoche, Freddy Sanchez, Jack Wilson, Andy LaRoche, Ramon Vazquez, Eric Hinske
2012 - Garret Jones, Neil Walker, Clint Barmes, Pedro Alvarez, Casey McGehee, Matt Hague, Yamaico Navarro, Josh Harrison
This isn't so clear to me. Adam Laroche was (and is) a pretty fair 1B. Yeah he's got an extremely strange spring summer split but at the end of the year he's always got good figures. I'd be happy to have him back if we could.
Sanchez was never as good as he was made out to be but Wilson was one of the best defensive SS in the league. We can only hope that Barmes gives us something close to his level of production.
On the other hand Andy LaRoche, Vazquez, Hinske - not much to talk about. The current iteration has higher ceilings and more options.
Catchers:
2009 - Ryan Doumit, Jason Jarmillo
2012 - Rod Barajas, Mike McKenry
We traded hitting catchers for fielding catchers. I think McKenry is an ideal backup catcher but I'd take Doumit back if I could.