NBA OFF TOPIC THREAD

[tlance]

Did they have a double digit lead? Did they intercept the ball and take over at mid field on the first possession of the 2nd half? Did they have the ball first in OT with a a chance to score a TD? The Niners choked as they have done repeatedly since 2012. This is who they are. This is their DNA. They’re front runners and when adversity punches them in the mouth they blink. Over and over and over again.

They had a double digit lead in the first half.

Then they completely failed to move the ball in the 3rd quarter.

Exactly like the Chiefs did in the 1st.

Once the Chiefs took the lead, the 9ers went right down the field and scored a TD in the 4th.

Then got in scoring range for go ahead FGs on the last 2 drives when the game was on the line.

These are 2 of the best defenses in the league. There are going to be lulls in production on both sides.

The 9ers absolutely played well enough to win that game. Chiefs were just a little better.

 

[bksballer89]

They had a double digit lead in the first half.

Then they completely failed to move the ball in the 3rd quarter.

Exactly like the Chiefs did in the 1st.

Once the Chiefs took the lead, the 9ers went right down the field and scored a TD in the 4th.

Then got in scoring range for go ahead FGs on the last 2 drives when the game was on the line.

These are 2 of the best defenses in the league. There are going to be lulls in production on both sides.

The 9ers absolutely played well enough to win that game. Chiefs were just a little better.

Yea the choke word is misused by him

 

[bksballer89]

Mahomes said the chiefs would have went for 2 if sf scored a td.

This is the play with these ot rules.

1) never receive if you win the toss

2) if you need a td to tie then just go for 2 to avoid the sudden death part of ot

 

[fightinfunbags]

They had a double digit lead in the first half.

Then they completely failed to move the ball in the 3rd quarter.

Are you sure? Kyle Shanahan is widely considered to be an offensive genius and one of the best offensive coaches in football. You’re telling me that guy had a long halftime and he didn’t come out with a plan to take advantage of the defense?

Exactly like the Chiefs did in the 1st.

Once the Chiefs took the lead, the 9ers went right down the field and scored a TD in the 4th.

Then got in scoring range for go ahead FGs on the last 2 drives when the game was on the line.

They needed 7s not 3s. They couldn’t get 7s because the offense that ranked third this season in the league on 3rd down conversion rate at 49% went 3-12 on 3rd down. This is consistent with the pattern established by the offensive genius in his career coaching big games.

These are 2 of the best defenses in the league. There are going to be lulls in production on both sides.

One team had an elite offense to go with that elite defense. The Chiefs just scored 17 against another elite defense in Baltimore. The Chiefs haven’t been elite on offense all year. The Chiefs had a bottom 10 rush defense using yards per rush as a metric. The Niners have the best RB in the game and were one of the best rush teams in football. That’s a huge advantage they failed to take advantage of. That’s somebody puckering in the biggest of spots. That’s a choke.

The 9ers absolutely played well enough to win that game. Chiefs were just a little better.

And yet as per usual when the going gets tough and the adversity hits the Niners find a way to lose the contest as they’ve done 4 times in NFC championship games and 3 times in Super Bowls since 2012.

This is who they are. If they didn’t win this year with everything breaking right for them when are they ever going to get over the hump?

This was absolutely a choking situation. Deebo had 33 receiving yards. Kittle had 4 receiving yards. The Niners coach and the Niners stars were complete no shows.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Yea the choke word is misused by him

Couldn’t disagree more. Everything in this game coming in was in the direction of the Niners. They had a lead, the better team, and the most one sided matchup with their run game vs Chiefs run D and they shit the bed. Why are you changing up? You were all over the Ravens for abandoning the run. Niners do the same sort of thing and now it’s not a choking situation?

 

[tlance]

Are you sure? Kyle Shanahan is widely considered to be an offensive genius and one of the best offensive coaches in football. You’re telling me that guy had a long halftime and he didn’t come out with a plan to take advantage of the defense?

They needed 7s not 3s. They couldn’t get 7s because the offense that ranked third this season in the league on 3rd down conversion rate at 49% went 3-12 on 3rd down. This is consistent with the pattern established by the offensive genius in his career coaching big games.

One team had an elite offense to go with that elite defense. The Chiefs just scored 17 against another elite defense in Baltimore. The Chiefs haven’t been elite on offense all year. The Chiefs had a bottom 10 rush defense using yards per rush as a metric. The Niners have the best RB in the game and were one of the best rush teams in football. That’s a huge advantage they failed to take advantage of. That’s somebody puckering in the biggest of spots. That’s a choke.

And yet as per usual when the going gets tough and the adversity hits the Niners find a way to lose the contest as they’ve done 4 times in NFC championship games and 3 times in Super Bowls since 2012.

This is who they are. If they didn’t win this year with everything breaking right for them when are they ever going to get over the hump?

This was absolutely a choking situation. Deebo had 33 receiving yards. Kittle had 4 receiving yards. The Niners coach and the Niners stars were complete no shows.

Yes.

I am sure they had a double digit lead in the first half.

Write another wall of text if you want.

It isn’t a “choke” every time a team loses.

Yes, Shannahan should have been better.

But Purdy is nothing special. Mediocre starter masquerading as a pro bowler because of all the talent around him.

Switch Purdy for Mahomes and the 9ers go undefeated and the Chiefs win maybe 6 or 7 games.

 

[bksballer89]

Couldn’t disagree more. Everything in this game coming in was in the direction of the Niners. They had a lead, the better team, and the most one sided matchup with their run game vs Chiefs run D and they shit the bed. Why are you changing up? You were all over the Ravens for abandoning the run. Niners do the same sort of thing and now it’s not a choking situation?

We have different meaning of the word choke clearly. Choke is losing a 28-3 2nd half lead

This was just poor coaching and approach to the game just like the ravens. I also never said the ravens choked. I just thought it was a dumb ass approach to the game

 

[fightinfunbags]

Yes.

I am sure they had a double digit lead in the first half.

Write another wall of text if you want.

It isn’t a “choke” every time a team loses.

It’s a choke when a franchise and the franchise’s coach habitually lose in these big games with the bright lights on and it’s good vs good. Shanahan is great when he can front run and he has a wide personnel advantage over the opponent. Shanahan ball is beating an overwhelmed squad in the regular season by 3 TDs. When his team faces adversity they fall short. It’s all the time.

Yes, Shannahan should have been better.

But Purdy is nothing special. Mediocre starter masquerading as a pro bowler because of all the talent around him.

He’s been the QB on the best team in football all season. It’s pretty convenient to lay this at his feet when he actually played pretty well last night.

Switch Purdy for Mahomes and the 9ers go undefeated and the Chiefs win maybe 6 or 7 games.

Hypotheticals are useless when we have actually results, data, and evidence in front of us.

 

[bksballer89]

Losing a td lead at halftime will never be a choke lol. This is like saying losing a 1 run lead in the 5th or 6th inning is a choke in baseball

 

[fightinfunbags]

We have different meaning of the word choke clearly. Choke is losing a 28-3 2nd half lead

This was just poor coaching and approach to the game just like the ravens. I also never said the ravens choked. I just thought it was a dumb ass approach to the game

A choke is when the game is set up for your success and you don’t deliver. And when you put that in the context of Shanahan’s history as an NFL coach and the Niners perpetual futility in the biggest games the pattern also lends itself to a “choke”.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Losing a td lead at halftime will never be a choke lol. This is like saying losing a 1 run lead in the 5th or 6th inning is a choke in baseball

It very well could be in your example. What’s the situation? Who did the manager go to in the bullpen? Did players make errors? Did players in advantageous counts spit on fastballs they could drive? You have to look at the entire context. The Niners led by 10 and let the Chiefs off the hook. The Niners were the better team and they had the most one sided matchup in the game. Shanahan allowed the Chiefs fronts to dictate his play calling instead of him going into his system deep with run plays and formations. He didn’t even really make them stop the run. He was successful (3+ yards) on over 2/3 of their called run plays last night.

 

[msgkings322]

A choke is when the game is set up for your success and you don’t deliver. And when you put that in the context of Shanahan’s history as an NFL coach and the Niners perpetual futility in the biggest games the pattern also lends itself to a “choke”.

Losing a basically pick em game to the GOAT QB is not what that word means, especially when they didn't blow some huge lead. I'm aware you won't ever change your opinion, but your opinion is wrong. You're using the word wrong.

 

[tlance]

A choke is when the game is set up for your success and you don’t deliver. And when you put that in the context of Shanahan’s history as an NFL coach and the Niners perpetual futility in the biggest games the pattern also lends itself to a “choke”.

No.

That isn’t what a choke is.

A choke implies that SF gave the away. Not that KC won it.

And that is not the case at all.

 

[bksballer89]

A choke is when the game is set up for your success and you don’t deliver. And when you put that in the context of Shanahan’s history as an NFL coach and the Niners perpetual futility in the biggest games the pattern also lends itself to a “choke”.

I disagree

 

[fightinfunbags]

No.

That isn’t what a choke is.

A choke implies that SF gave the away. Not that KC won it.

And that is not the case at all.

They absolutely did.

 

[tlance]

They absolutely did.

Yeah, that is crazy talk.

You acting like SF was some kind of heavy favorite.

It was almost even money.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

have we discussed what a choke artist Kyle Shanahan is yet

 

[DJ]

SB 59 in New Orleans.

 

[fightinfunbags]

have we discussed what a choke artist Kyle Shanahan is yet

Now I know habitual references to this choke job will get under some skin.

 

[DJ]