Luke Fickell, come out to pla-ay!!!!

[Across The Field]

Ranked at the time the game was played, or EOS, like POST bowl games?

Because it seems to me a bunch of AAC teams were ranked from #16 to #25, like the poll voters couldn't pick which one was the best, so they gave them each a couple votes, figuring it would get figured out by the end of the year.

My guess is 2 of the ranked teams Cincy and Memphis played were each other, once in regular season play and then the conf title game? Am I right? lol Almost as bad as SEC teams bragging about beating ranked SEC teams that eventually fall out of the rankings, because the poll voters shove 8 SEC teams into the pre-season rankings basically ensuring whoever comes out on top can claim tons of big wins. Yet how many SEC teams have been losing to FCS or G5 teams in the ooc lately? Seems like Ark does like every other season? lol But I'm sure I am exaggerating, just the impression I have from memory.

This was the rankings at the time the bowls were announced, meaning when the committee made their decision, these were the resumes that had to go off of. Also, to be fair, 2 of Oklahoma's 3 ranked opponents were games against Baylor, and then Oklahoma State, who was 25th going into Bowl Season.

Since both Memphis and Cincy were ranked to end the year, that doesn't change.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

This was the rankings at the time the bowls were announced, meaning when the committee made their decision, these were the resumes that had to go off of. Also, to be fair, 2 of Oklahoma's 3 ranked opponents were games against Baylor, and then Oklahoma State, who was 25th going into Bowl Season.

Since both Memphis and Cincy were ranked to end the year, that doesn't change.

Well, they need to figure out something. Schedule NDSU maybe, or James Madison, I'm sure both of those would love to play any FBS schools. Beat NDSU and THEN maybe you can be taken seriously. Because UC can only get OSU to play them here and there. Just not worth it for the top P5 teams to play such risky games, too much to lose by losing, not enough gain by winning. And another good idea, the top notch G5 schools could play each other ooc. Everyone benefits.

 

[Across The Field]

Well, they need to figure out something. Schedule NDSU maybe, or James Madison, I'm sure both of those would love to play any FBS schools. Beat NDSU and THEN maybe you can be taken seriously. Because UC can only get OSU to play them here and there. Just not worth it for the top P5 teams to play such risky games, too much to lose by losing, not enough gain by winning. And another good idea, the top notch G5 schools could play each other ooc. Everyone benefits.

It's going to have to end up being CFP expansion. If you create a separate G5 championship, then you're basically dictating the college football landscape for the next several decades.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Games played against ranked opponents going into bowl season last year:
Memphis: 3
Cincinnati: 3
Navy: 2
Oklahoma: 3
Oregon: 2
Clemson: 1

That's three P5 conference champs who played as many or fewer ranked teams than three G5 teams heading into bowl season. As I've said earlier, the G5 team would need to be unbeaten, but if you have a 13-0 G5 team who has beaten 3 ranked teams, how is it outrageous to put them in over a P5 team that's only beaten 1 ranked team, especially if that P5 team has a loss?

Cincy played OSU — lost by 42

Navy played ND — lost by 32


Memphis big OOC game was 4-8 Ole Miss. They won 15-10.


They stick G5 team at the bottom of the rankings because it draws interest in their games.

G5 teams will never have the strength of schedule to get recognized as one of the top 4 teams in the country.

 

[Across The Field]

Cincy played OSU — lost by 42

Navy played ND — lost by 32


Memphis big OOC game was 4-8 Ole Miss. They won 15-10.


They stick G5 team at the bottom of the rankings because it draws interest in their games.

G5 teams will never have the strength of schedule to get recognized as one of the top 4 teams in the country.

Yes. Which is why I added the caveat yesterday that one of these teams would likely need to be 13-0 with a really good P5 OOC win. For instance, if UCF's regular season P5 OOC win in 2017 was against a team like USC or Penn State instead of 4-8 Maryland, they're in the CFP that year for sure.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

What the hell for lol

 

[gob]

Well, they need to figure out something. Schedule NDSU maybe, or James Madison, I'm sure both of those would love to play any FBS schools. Beat NDSU and THEN maybe you can be taken seriously. Because UC can only get OSU to play them here and there. Just not worth it for the top P5 teams to play such risky games, too much to lose by losing, not enough gain by winning. And another good idea, the top notch G5 schools could play each other ooc. Everyone benefits.

Yeah, cause NDSU is going to get them national recognition.



GTFO

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Yeah, cause NDSU is going to get them national recognition.



GTFO

You don't think it would? NDSU has beaten 2 Top Ten ranked P5 programs in the last decade.

Iowa and Kansas St.

Oregon might find out the hard way come fall, how NDSU deserves more respect?

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Yeah, cause NDSU is going to get them national recognition.



GTFO

And no one else wants to play them, I mean, with a few exceptions, so why not? NDSU would jump at the chance.

 

[Cincyfan78]

Yes. Which is why I added the caveat yesterday that one of these teams would likely need to be 13-0 with a really good P5 OOC win. For instance, if UCF's regular season P5 OOC win in 2017 was against a team like USC or Penn State instead of 4-8 Maryland, they're in the CFP that year for sure.

I think it will take playing at least 2 P5 schools, one on the road, winning both and going 13-0. It also may still take at least 1 conference champion winning their championship with 2 losses - even then...

What makes it really hard for G5 schools from a scheduling standpoint - you just never know when that year is going to be where you could have, potentially, made those upsets against really good P5 teams. The consistency with recruiting just isn't there because, usually, when a coach hits a hot-streak (say, like Fickell) he's gone after the 3rd year, and the program has to re-set itself.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Yes. Which is why I added the caveat yesterday that one of these teams would likely need to be 13-0 with a really good P5 OOC win. For instance, if UCF's regular season P5 OOC win in 2017 was against a team like USC or Penn State instead of 4-8 Maryland, they're in the CFP that year for sure.

I just don’t see it because they won’t have the strength of schedule. They’d need to stack their OOC and P5 teams with stacked conference schedules aren’t going to line up to play a game that does little for them.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Michigan State trustee: Luke Fickell a 'waffling flake'

 

[naslundfan19]

How about Mel Tucker?

 

[Innermind]

Last week, Colorado Buffaloes coach Mel Tucker said no.... he wasn't interested in the Michigan State job....

but then he received an offer from MSU that he couldn't refuse.... WOW, look at some of those numbers in this offer:


Michigan State football to hire Mel Tucker as Mark Dantonio's replacement, per report




Per The Athletic's Bruce Feldman:

According to Feldman, the deal will double Tucker's $3.2 million salary pool for assistant coaches, increase the Michigan State strength and conditioning staff budget and "more than double" Tucker's $2.675 million salary.


Damn....that's a pretty impressive offer.

 

[Innermind]

Just a reminder that in 1997-1998 Mel Tucker was an assistant under Nick Saban at Michigan State, and again under Saban at LSU in 2000, and of course at Alabama in 2015.

Tucker has 2 natties as an assistant: Ohio State 2002 under Jim Tressel, and Alabama 2015 under Nick Saban. Yes, that means Tucker was the DB coach on Mark Dantonio's defense at Ohio State in 2002.

Mel Tucker - Wikipedia

 

[Innermind]

Mel Tucker on Feb 8th:



Hehe.... money talks.

 

[cwerph]

Michigan State trustee: Luke Fickell a 'waffling flake'

The BOT at MSU are a bunch of idiots.

 

[RobBase]

This turned out the best way it could have all things considered.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

This turned out the best way it could have all things considered.

Panic hiring a coach who just went 5-7 and paying them double their salary because no one else would take the job?