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maybe for you. im sure you can convince yourself of anything.

so, the patriots have played in 11 superbowls. thats as many as washington and SF combined. thats almost 3 times as many as buffalo.

steelers are 6-2
pats are 6-5

id rather have 11 chances at a 50/50 shot at a title, than just 8.

maybe thats just me?
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I already addressed dying on the operating table. I expect this from Pats fans and those that don't understand "greatness"
As it stands, the Pats are just slightly greater than flipping a coin and having it come up heads.
… and having more chances and failing more and winning the same #, only shows the lack of efficiency at winning, ergo lack of greatness.

Let me ask you this Rock, what data in my table is incorrect?
 

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Only 12 teams out of 32 (37.5%) have a positive NET Super Bowl Win total, only 6 out of 32 (18.75) have a total NET higher than 1!!!
 

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I already addressed dying on the operating table. I expect this from Pats fans and those that don't understand "greatness"
As it stands, the Pats are just slightly greater than flipping a coin and having it come up heads.
… and having more chances and failing more and winning the same #, only shows the lack of efficiency at winning, ergo lack of greatness.

Let me ask you this Rock, what data in my table is incorrect?
here we go again. i have to explain this to everyone who doesnt work in numbers for a living.

anyone can take any number or data set and create a narrative, like you have.

youre literally saying youd rather have fewer 50/50 shots at a title. "i only want to see my team play in a superbowl if they win".

its just a silly narrative, based on your inferiority complex to the patriots dynasty.

the yankees have lost the world series 13 times. by your logic, the red sox are superior because they only lost 4.

am i right? i mean, what kind of shit franchise loses 13 times?
 

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Non NFL Teams, or Conference Practice Dummies:

Detroit Lions
Cleveland Browns
Jacksonville Jaguars
Houston Texans


Try real hard not to cry on this thread if your team is a practice dummy, or not as great as you'd like to believe in NET.


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here we go again. i have to explain this to everyone who doesnt work in numbers for a living.

anyone can take any number or data set and create a narrative, like you have.

youre literally saying youd rather have fewer 50/50 shots at a title. "i only want to see my team play in a superbowl if they win".

its just a silly narrative, based on your inferiority complex to the patriots dynasty.

the yankees have lost the world series 13 times. by your logic, the red sox are superior because they only lost 4.

am i right? i mean, what kind of shit franchise loses 13 times?

Don't Patronize me rock.

NO, I'm literally saying that greatness is about what you do with those shots.

Winning=good

Losing=Bad

winning the same# with more shots means you are lesser.
 

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Don't Patronize me rock.

NO, I'm literally saying that greatness is about what you do with those shots.

Winning=good

Losing=Bad

winning the same# with more shots means you are lesser.
im not patronizing you. maybe you see it that way. can you answer me?

does this logic mean the yankees losing 13 times vs the red sox 4 times, make the sox the "superior franchise" when it comes to winning?
 

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im not patronizing you. maybe you see it that way. can you answer me?

does this logic mean the yankees losing 13 times vs the red sox 4 times, make the sox the "superior franchise" when it comes to winning?
If the sox (hypothetically) had won as many times as the yankees, YES!
 

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i dunno, maybe im just a bad fan, but id rather my team have a 50/50 shot vs not a shot at all. at the end of the day, i cant find this argument made anywhere else, and its always on team boards of lesser franchises when i google it.
 

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Ah. Seems like I found the "Steelers are going to have a down year so let's fool with statistics so that I feel better about my team" thread.
 

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so according to these metrics if a team goes 5-5 in SB in 10 years they are dog shit:suds:
 

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Ah. Seems like I found the "Steelers are going to have a down year so let's fool with statistics so that I feel better about my team" thread.
basically.

"going to 11 superbowls is worse than going to 8"
 

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so according to these metrics if a team goes 5-5 in SB in 10 years they are dog shit:suds:
yup. its better to be 1-0 than 5-5 over a 10 year stretch.

i learned that today with this misguided metric.
 

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This metric also states that the Saints had a better year on the “greatness” scale because they lost in the Championship Game rather than the Super Bowl. Haha
 

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:pound:
 

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i dunno, maybe im just a bad fan, but id rather my team have a 50/50 shot vs not a shot at all. at the end of the day, i cant find this argument made anywhere else, and its always on team boards of lesser franchises when i google it.
This has NOTHING to do with that.

This has to do with what actually happened.

Sure you can say you'd rather have that big game chance, but you lose it, and you are lesser than those who won the same and didn't lose.

It's why a Hole in One is celebrated, and a Hole in Seventy-two is not.
 
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