politics thread

[gkekoa]

I guess I should have clarified that. Donald Trump is a draft dodger willing to put other peoples lives and sanity on the line doing something he never would do himself. The military is beneath him and he has the air of someone who feels the military is for losers who didnt have enough going for them that it was their only choice.

Except he didn’t draft. He was medically disqualified.

As POTUS, he carries the name Commander in Chief, just like Obama (also never served), and Clinton who did actually dodge.

Now, as CIC, he has to be willing to put our troops in harm’s way. The entire purpose of the military is to defend the USA against all enemies. These people are marching toward the southern border flying another country’s colors, and being violent. These are all covered in the word invasion.

As for the use of force, can people be killed or harmed by rocks? If they can be killed, then the use of deadly force is authorized, as it should be. No...you should not feel bad for an idiot who brings a rock to a gun fight. It is simply Darwinism in action.

 

[gkekoa]

y the way.. fun fact. Nigerian Military just gunned down protestors for throwing rocks, and stated their justification was they agreed with Trump in that protesters should be shot for this. Im not saying this is Trumps fault in any way shape or form. I think they would have shot them in any case.

I do find it a problem our President accidently gives horrible people political cover with the words coming out of his mouth.

Are you a protester if you are throwing rocks?

 

[Sharkinva]

Except he didn’t draft. He was medically disqualified.

As POTUS, he carries the name Commander in Chief, just like Obama (also never served), and Clinton who did actually dodge.

Now, as CIC, he has to be willing to put our troops in harm’s way. The entire purpose of the military is to defend the USA against all enemies. These people are marching toward the southern border flying another country’s colors, and being violent. These are all covered in the word invasion.

As for the use of force, can people be killed or harmed by rocks? If they can be killed, then the use of deadly force is authorized, as it should be. No...you should not feel bad for an idiot who brings a rock to a gun fight. It is simply Darwinism in action.

1. You have to request a medical deferment. He did, he dodged.

2. I didnt vote for Clinton.. so why bring him up except to excuse your leader.

3. People MARCH IN THIS country and fly an enemy flag daily. Confederat Flags and fucking NAZI flags abound. I dont see him or you screaming about that. And in fact he called them some fine people.

4. I dont know when you served, but I was always taught that when you meet force with force, you use just enough force to subdue the danger. Sorry if i dont feel I need my M-4 to defend against someone throwing a rock from 20 feet away. Its yet another attempt to dehumanize people you simply dont want in what you consider your country and the rest of us are just here by your good graces.

 

[JohnU]

Like I said, there is no meme. This is what the Democratic Party stands for.
1- abortion, killing babies.
2- free medical care for all...paid for by the few.
3- free college for all...paid for by the few.
4- giving away sovereignty.
5- open borders

Wonderful, now go back under your bed. I really don't care. You just regurgitate the same shit I read on the last 453 hate-half-of-America threads. Good lord, listen to some music.

 

[gkekoa]

1. You have to request a medical deferment. He did, he dodged.

2. I didnt vote for Clinton.. so why bring him up except to excuse your leader.

3. People MARCH IN THIS country and fly an enemy flag daily. Confederat Flags and fucking NAZI flags abound. I dont see him or you screaming about that. And in fact he called them some fine people.

4. I dont know when you served, but I was always taught that when you meet force with force, you use just enough force to subdue the danger. Sorry if i dont feel I need my M-4 to defend against someone throwing a rock from 20 feet away. Its yet another attempt to dehumanize people you simply dont want in what you consider your country and the rest of us are just here by your good graces.

1- What he did was not illegal.

2- I bring him up because he was a POTUS that never served. Like I said, I am all for making it a requirement.

3- They are already here, correct? In order to invade, you can’t be in. “The fine ones” aren’t throwing stones and are few. They are also American citizens with the RIGHT to do so. NAZI isnt a country and the confederacy is dead...oh also citizens.

4- 2000-2012. Sorry but that isn’t self defense. If a person is out to harm you, you should be able to use whatever force to stop the threat. Can a person be killed by a rock being thrown from 20’ away? The answer is yes, and you have the right to defend your life with deadly force. I am not dehumanizing anybody because I hold that true for US citizens. If you are going to throw rocks at people, you should be dead.

 

[gkekoa]

Wonderful, now go back under your bed. I really don't care. You just regurgitate the same shit I read on the last 453 hate-half-of-America threads. Good lord, listen to some music.

Apparently you do care. You aren’t even a Redskin fan, but you felt the need to interject nothing of intelligent value on this board.

 

[Sharkinva]

1- What he did was not illegal.

2- I bring him up because he was a POTUS that never served. Like I said, I am all for making it a requirement.

3- They are already here, correct? In order to invade, you can’t be in. “The fine ones” aren’t throwing stones and are few. They are also American citizens with the RIGHT to do so. NAZI isnt a country and the confederacy is dead...oh also citizens.

4- 2000-2012. Sorry but that isn’t self defense. If a person is out to harm you, you should be able to use whatever force to stop the threat. Can a person be killed by a rock being thrown from 20’ away? The answer is yes, and you have the right to defend your life with deadly force. I am not dehumanizing anybody because I hold that true for US citizens. If you are going to throw rocks at people, you should be dead.

1 No it was just cowardly and he did it five times. Apparently his bone spurs stopped bothering him shortly after the draft ended. Odd how that worked.

2. We will ignore this.

3. The fine ones burn crosses, chant how they want to get rid of some other Americans that are here, and by and large are responsible for 74% of the hate crimes in this country at present. But I guess its ok because they arent Muslims, or MS-13.

4. Sure a person can be harmed from a rock from 20 feet away. But again you want ot treat these people as invaders and hold them at bay with guns, then wonder why people fleeing violence and are met with the threat of violence might get a little testy.

 

[gkekoa]

1 No it was just cowardly and he did it five times. Apparently his bone spurs stopped bothering him shortly after the draft ended. Odd how that worked.

2. We will ignore this.

3. The fine ones burn crosses, chant how they want to get rid of some other Americans that are here, and by and large are responsible for 74% of the hate crimes in this country at present. But I guess its ok because they arent Muslims, or MS-13.

4. Sure a person can be harmed from a rock from 20 feet away. But again you want ot treat these people as invaders and hold them at bay with guns, then wonder why people fleeing violence and are met with the threat of violence might get a little testy.

1. 4 times for education was the norm. The bone spurs may have been overblown but the doctor signed off. The deferment exists because those medically disqualified may get others killed. Not excusing him but it was legal. I don’t like the act itself but he is CIC and has to make decisions.

3. Nope. Those are pieces of shit. I am sure if you ask Trump, he would say they are pieces of shit. I am sure there are those who don’t actually bother anybody, just like most Muslims. Sorry, but if you are a member of MS-13, you should be out or in prison.

4. Just because the military is there doesn’t make it violent. I don’t care if they get testy though...they are not welcome here without doing it LEGALLY. We are a sovereign nation and they have no right to be here without authorization.

 

[Sharkinva]

1. 4 times for education was the norm. The bone spurs may have been overblown but the doctor signed off. The deferment exists because those medically disqualified may get others killed. Not excusing him but it was legal. I don’t like the act itself but he is CIC and has to make decisions.

3. Nope. Those are pieces of shit. I am sure if you ask Trump, he would say they are pieces of shit. I am sure there are those who don’t actually bother anybody, just like most Muslims. Sorry, but if you are a member of MS-13, you should be out or in prison.

4. Just because the military is there doesn’t make it violent. I don’t care if they get testy though...they are not welcome here without doing it LEGALLY. We are a sovereign nation and they have no right to be here without authorization.

1. He was goig to a military college. He should have graduated then served. He would have gone in as an officer, had his choice of branch, and likely never have even seen combat unless he choose my beloved Corps, of which he would not have made it imn my opinion through boot camp.

3. I agree they are pieces of shit. He has had every chance in the book to denounce them and at best we get a soft answer and fine people bullshit. He WONT call out white Suprimists because the fact is they are a part of his base, and he would rather go soft on tem than risk losing a part of his base.

4. They are not welcome here legally or not in the view of some of his base, far too many in my opinion. And its BUllshit that legally is harder for some groups than others based mostly on where they are trying to come in from. You want fair immigration, stop basing it on statements like we need more NOrwegians, or government officials saying shit like we cant rebuild our civilization with other peoples babies.

 

[gkekoa]

1. He was goig to a military college. He should have graduated then served. He would have gone in as an officer, had his choice of branch, and likely never have even seen combat unless he choose my beloved Corps, of which he would not have made it imn my opinion through boot camp.

3. I agree they are pieces of shit. He has had every chance in the book to denounce them and at best we get a soft answer and fine people bullshit. He WONT call out white Suprimists because the fact is they are a part of his base, and he would rather go soft on tem than risk losing a part of his base

4. They are not welcome here legally or not in the view of some of his base, far too many in my opinion. And its BUllshit that legally is harder for some groups than others based mostly on where they are trying to come in from. You want fair immigration, stop basing it on statements like we need more NOrwegians, or government officials saying shit like we cant rebuild our civilization with other peoples babies.

1- I agree completely. Can you imagine Trump at Parris Island?

3- He did denounce white supremist when he denounced all types of racism. Do you agree all racism is bad or just white supremists? Are white supremists worse?

4- So you think it should be equally easy for a person from Syria or Mogadishu to come here as a person from Mexico, England, or Canada? Norway has a rocking economy, low crime, and a good education system. Why wouldn’t we welcome them over somebody from Guatemala? What is wrong with the statement we can’t rebuild our civilization, the American civilization, with other people’s babies if they don’t believe in the American culture?

 

[Sharkinva]

1- I agree completely. Can you imagine Trump at Parris Island?

3- He did denounce white supremist when he denounced all types of racism. Do you agree all racism is bad or just white supremists? Are white supremists worse?

4- So you think it should be equally easy for a person from Syria or Mogadishu to come here as a person from Mexico, England, or Canada? Norway has a rocking economy, low crime, and a good education system. Why wouldn’t we welcome them over somebody from Guatemala? What is wrong with the statement we can’t rebuild our civilization, the American civilization, with other people’s babies if they don’t believe in the American culture?

1. The would have broken him like a twig and sent him home with an I was almost a Marine t-shirt.

2/ All Racism is bad, white Supremacists are and historically have been the worst in this country. And by that I mean generally they have been the largest, most violent and least prosecuted group of racists in this country from the beginning. They are now trying (and in some cases succeeding) to infiltrate and spread their ideals into our government. Could you imagine the backlash if a black house of reps member tweeted.. we need to do everything we can to breed white folks out of existence in this country??


4. The PROBLEM is, too many people see CULTURE as race. So by saying we cant rebuild our culture with other peoples babies, it is basically saying that in order to maintain American "Culture" we need to maintain Americas whiteness, it feeds meat to the white supremacists and implies that te only way ot maintain America is to maintain the demographic composition.

 

[gkekoa]

1. The would have broken him like a twig and sent him home with an I was almost a Marine t-shirt.

2/ All Racism is bad, white Supremacists are and historically have been the worst in this country. And by that I mean generally they have been the largest, most violent and least prosecuted group of racists in this country from the beginning. They are now trying (and in some cases succeeding) to infiltrate and spread their ideals into our government. Could you imagine the backlash if a black house of reps member tweeted.. we need to do everything we can to breed white folks out of existence in this country??


4. The PROBLEM is, too many people see CULTURE as race. So by saying we cant rebuild our culture with other peoples babies, it is basically saying that in order to maintain American "Culture" we need to maintain Americas whiteness, it feeds meat to the white supremacists and implies that te only way ot maintain America is to maintain the demographic composition.

I agree from a historic standpoint. That being said, they play a very, very small role in today’s world. Tbh, I believe racist blacks have more power than white supremists. I will completely disagree about them infiltrating government. Again, you interject race into a statement that wasn’t about race.

I completely disagree. Do you believe there is a cultural difference between the USA and Central America? Do you believe there is a different way of thinking in both places? So...no it isn’t about race. It is about culture.

 

[Rowdy]

I would bet dimes to donuts if this were actually done, you would have immigrants rights groups stepping up to help these people get on their feet. I also know that 10 miles from me, there are oranges rotting on the tree because the grove owners cant get enough people to pick them in time and this happens yearly. This drives costs up because they have to sell what they do pick for more to cover the cost of the waste on the branch. And before someone screams.. those are AMERICAN jobs... go do a little research on a film from the 40s done by the Department of Defense called dont be a sucker. What it told us then, is eerily similar to some of the crap I hear coming out of the mouths of "Americans" now.

So why don’t you let at least one of those families in that caravan pitch a tent in your backyard and pick those oranges?

 

[reptec101]

What's a president to do? If he stands up against this mass of intruders he is guilty of inhumanity. If he allows them to cross over unfettered he has opened the door to the next mass invasion, and the next, and the next... until half of South America is roaming our streets unchecked. The president has stated that if you go through proper avenues of citizenship you are most welcomed. Yet that aint good enough for the democrats (especially round election time). I can promise you that as soon as dems take control back these illegals will be forgotten as fast as Kirk Cousins around these parts... kidding,,, I meant RG3. ..and please race baiters,,, don't go there. However, if Dems take control back; the government then tells you what's best for you and your family. We lose job growth for all races. Just yesterday the news came out that some 400,000 jobs were added in October. Those that watch and listen to liberal networks probably didn't hear this news. There is a lot about the republican party that I don't like but I can't vote for cry babies who can't accept election results and then work within to help this nation,,, instead they tear apart the very fabric. The media will tell you that DT is why we are so divided. Idiots if you believe that. The truth is we are divided as a nation because of media bias and hypocrisy.

Let me get back on track.... I feel bad for 80 percent of the people within these caravans. The other 20 percent I can bet wouldn't be friendly neighbors. However, with the mass influxtion you can't properly vet these people and theirin lies a big problem. If the dems really want open borders than God help our children. If you can't see the problem with mass intrusion than God help us now. We all know that when they arrive the women and children will be on the front lines and the media will be mocking the threat that looms. Please don't be stupid and believe the entire crowd are as innocent. If you believe all people are good than remove your locks from your homes. We cannot allow people to come to these united states unchecked,, when so many want to harm us for our liberties and freedoms.

This 7000 is just a small sample of whats to come. You can bet others are watching. Come in with documents and be my neighbor,,, come in unchecked and be my worry... Our worry.

 

[ehb5]

What's a president to do? If he stands up against this mass of intruders he is guilty of inhumanity. If he allows them to cross over unfettered he has opened the door to the next mass invasion, and the next, and the next... until half of South America is roaming our streets unchecked. The president has stated that if you go through proper avenues of citizenship you are most welcomed. Yet that aint good enough for the democrats (especially round election time). I can promise you that as soon as dems take control back these illegals will be forgotten as fast as Kirk Cousins around these parts... kidding,,, I meant RG3. ..and please race baiters,,, don't go there. However, if Dems take control back; the government then tells you what's best for you and your family. We lose job growth for all races. Just yesterday the news came out that some 400,000 jobs were added in October. Those that watch and listen to liberal networks probably didn't hear this news. There is a lot about the republican party that I don't like but I can't vote for cry babies who can't accept election results and then work within to help this nation,,, instead they tear apart the very fabric. The media will tell you that DT is why we are so divided. Idiots if you believe that. The truth is we are divided as a nation because of media bias and hypocrisy.

Let me get back on track.... I feel bad for 80 percent of the people within these caravans. The other 20 percent I can bet wouldn't be friendly neighbors. However, with the mass influxtion you can't properly vet these people and theirin lies a big problem. If the dems really want open borders than God help our children. If you can't see the problem with mass intrusion than God help us now. We all know that when they arrive the women and children will be on the front lines and the media will be mocking the threat that looms. Please don't be stupid and believe the entire crowd are as innocent. If you believe all people are good than remove your locks from your homes. We cannot allow people to come to these united states unchecked,, when so many want to harm us for our liberties and freedoms.

This 7000 is just a small sample of whats to come. You can bet others are watching. Come in with documents and be my neighbor,,, come in unchecked and be my worry... Our worry.

 

[ehb5]

So why don’t you let at least one of those families in that caravan pitch a tent in your backyard and pick those oranges?

Wat

 

[reptec101]

Ehb, I now have to assume you’re one of the idiots that I just talked about. If you cant see the potential dangers of allowing people unchecked or not properly vetted without documents or papers declaring who they are then you and I can obviously not have a rational discussion on here. I now have to block you somehow from seeing your future post because I value my logically mind.. and it just took a serious hit with your reply. I don’t object to difference of opinions regarding this nation but your last two replys have been a SMH and a Wat. Hardly value worth noting on a discussion board. Do better. Tell me why Im wrong. Ill give you another chance to add something of note.

 

[ehb5]

Ehb, I now have to assume you’re one of the idiots that I just talked about. If you cant see the potential dangers of allowing people unchecked or not properly vetted without documents or papers declaring who they are then you and I can obviously not have a rational discussion on here. I now have to block you somehow from seeing your future post because I value my logically mind.. and it just took a serious hit with your reply. I don’t object to difference of opinions regarding this nation but your last two replys have been a SMH and a Wat. Hardly value worth noting on a discussion board. Do better. Tell me why Im wrong. Ill give you another chance to add something of note.

Im the idiot yet you're the one who thinks a caravan of 7000 people was just gonna stroll accross the border and plop down in your yard unchecked.

You really need to inform yourself on a lot of things.

Now if you need to run off to your safe space and block me i understand. Some people would rather feel safe and unchallenged than face the truth and thats ok if thats you.

 

[skinsdad62]

Ehb, I now have to assume you’re one of the idiots that I just talked about. If you cant see the potential dangers of allowing people unchecked or not properly vetted without documents or papers declaring who they are then you and I can obviously not have a rational discussion on here. I now have to block you somehow from seeing your future post because I value my logically mind.. and it just took a serious hit with your reply. I don’t object to difference of opinions regarding this nation but your last two replys have been a SMH and a Wat. Hardly value worth noting on a discussion board. Do better. Tell me why Im wrong. Ill give you another chance to add something of note.

no insults rep please

 

[Sharkinva]

So why don’t you let at least one of those families in that caravan pitch a tent in your backyard and pick those oranges?

MAybe because over the years I have helped atleast 12 of my wifes extended family chain migrate to the country. IM trying t sponsor a couple of more just to piss off my not to found of it neighbor t the moment, just need my youngest to move out first.