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Trade Heatley straight up for Ryan Smyth? Why? Why not?
Still not sure why Heater is so unpopular here...
He was the #1 star and took the sharks out of thier slump on saturday and until the late goal by phoenix, he would have had the GWG in both games. His tip vs. STL to win it was a thing of beauty that few sharks, if any, could have done.
Heater has struggled some, but he's still tied for the team lead in points, 2nd in goals, and is only -1 despite his defensive struggles compared to patty's -19, jumbo's -13, pavs' -14, and seto's -15.
Heater may not score 50 again, but 40 remains still quite possible if he gets hot, and in the sharks history, they have only had 3 40 goal seasons (one patty, one nolan, one cheech). heater is arguably the greatest goal scoring threat in sharks history. I wouldn't deal him for smyth or anyone who is not a bona fide #1 Dman or named crosby, ovechkin....
Last PO's (his only year in SJ), he was disappointing, no question. However, theoretically, he was pretty injured, so a healthy heatley is worth the money.
Patty for 7M? well, that's another story.... Maybe, just maybe, he'll hit 30 goals, 60 points and wont lead the entire league in worst +/-... Now there's a good investment.
That said, I think of the big 3, clearly patty would be the one to move (assuming that was possible and easy). I am pretty much sure than none of those 3 are going anywhere though.
Heater maybe, jumbo? no way. Most GM's would drool for the chance to get jumbo for 7M. 100 point players are extremely rare, and sure jumbo is having an off year, but his value would be huge particularly to non-PO teams like toronto, ottawa, calgary...
Doesnt matter anyways cuz none are going anyways...
Heater maybe, jumbo? no way. Most GM's would drool for the chance to get jumbo for 7M. 100 point players are extremely rare, and sure jumbo is having an off year, but his value would be huge particularly to non-PO teams like toronto, ottawa, calgary...
Doesnt matter anyways cuz none are going anyways...
Still not sure why Heater is so unpopular here...
He was the #1 star and took the sharks out of thier slump on saturday and until the late goal by phoenix, he would have had the GWG in both games. His tip vs. STL to win it was a thing of beauty that few sharks, if any, could have done.
Heater has struggled some, but he's still tied for the team lead in points, 2nd in goals, and is only -1 despite his defensive struggles compared to patty's -19, jumbo's -13, pavs' -14, and seto's -15.
Heater may not score 50 again, but 40 remains still quite possible if he gets hot, and in the sharks history, they have only had 3 40 goal seasons (one patty, one nolan, one cheech). heater is arguably the greatest goal scoring threat in sharks history. I wouldn't deal him for smyth or anyone who is not a bona fide #1 Dman or named crosby, ovechkin....
Last PO's (his only year in SJ), he was disappointing, no question. However, theoretically, he was pretty injured, so a healthy heatley is worth the money.
Patty for 7M? well, that's another story.... Maybe, just maybe, he'll hit 30 goals, 60 points and wont lead the entire league in worst +/-... Now there's a good investment.
Neither Thornton nor Heatley play any defense, they can't play on the PK, etc.
Sure they're nice one-dimensional players (with Thornton being largely more useful than Heatley to any team out there, IMO), but you're getting much more bang for your buck with Marleau...
But anyway, I'm biased (and so are you) and it's just opinions anyway so I'll let it go..
Rules,
Watch him in his own end, then you will see why hes so unpopular.
I have, and I do understand. He's not a complete player and I do understand the wrath toward him. And, if he's not scoring goals, he's completely useless, as opposed to other guys who bring a much more complete game. I do get it, I just think that when he is scoring goals, he is worth the defensive drawbacks (as we've seen the last two games).
hopefully he'll get hot and then everyone will remember that he is one of the top goal scorers in the NHL and forget that he isnt gunna win a selke anytime soon.
I know Heatley is one dimensional but that dimension is world class and is very hard to do. There are plenty of guys that play defense, body check, skate fast, but there are only a handful of guys in the world that can score goals like Heater.
The one good thing about this trade is that Smyth's contract is off the books after the 11-12 season whereas Heater's runs to the end of 13-14. If Heater's lack of defense is a problem for the team he is on, then it should be addressed with other players (better defenders). You live with the lack of defense from him for what he brings offensively. Since the Sharks are not rebuilding yet, I wouldn't do this trade because in 2 years, Heater should still be a great goal scorer whereas Smyth will be a good 3rd liner. If the Sharks are still playoff contenders, Heater will do better for this team.
I'm not saying the Sharks shouldn't trade Heater, but if the Sharks did, I'd want more than one solid asset coming back, not another highly paid forward.
Filo: Here's a question for ya. Would you package Couture in a deal for Weber? Don't mean to hijack the thread, but it does fall in line with "Would you?"