Training Camp Thread

[Fountain City Blues]

Starts July 30th

 

[Fountain City Blues]

 

[Fountain City Blues]

via AP

CHIEFS 2016 TRAINING CAMP SCHEDULE
Saturday, July 30

Practice – 3:30 p.m.

First Practice Open to the Public ($5 Admission Fee) | *Team Autograph Session



Sunday, July 31

Practice – 8:15 a.m.

Social Media Day | *Team Autograph Session




Monday, Aug. 1

Practice – 8:15 a.m.



Tuesday, Aug. 2

Practice – 8:15 a.m.



Wednesday, Aug. 3

Practice – 9:15 a.m.



Thursday, Aug. 4

No Practice



Friday, Aug. 5

Practice – 8:15 a.m.

Social Media Day



Saturday, Aug. 6

Practice – 8:15 a.m.

“American Family” Fun Day ($5 Admission Fee) | *Team Autograph Session



Sunday, Aug. 7

Practice – 8:15 a.m.

Season Ticket Member Appreciation & Alumni Day | *Team Autograph Session



Monday, Aug. 8

Practice – 9:15 a.m.



Tuesday, Aug. 9

Practice – 8:15 a.m.



Wednesday, Aug. 10

Practice – 8:15 a.m.



Thursday, Aug. 11

No Practice



Friday, Aug. 12

No Practice



Saturday, Aug. 13

Preseason Game No. 1 – Chiefs vs. Seahawks – 3:30 p.m. CT



Sunday, Aug. 14

No Practice



Monday, Aug. 15

Practice – 8:15 a.m.



Tuesday, Aug. 16

Practice – 8:15 a.m.



Wednesday, Aug. 17

Practice – 9:15 a.m.



Thursday, Aug. 18

Practice – 8:15 a.m.

Military Appreciation Day | Final Camp Practice | Camp Breaks

*Weather and field conditions are evaluated daily. All dates and times provided are subject to change. If practice is moved indoors due to poor conditions it will be closed to the public. The club will notify fans via social media channels as soon as a decision is made.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Adam Teicher's stab at the 53 man

Chiefs' 53-man roster includes Tyler Bray, Kevin Hogan as backup QBs

As much as I enjoy 3 TE sets, you don't need 4 TE's on a roster. Carrying an extra DL, OL, or linebacker makes much more sense for this team, imo.

Note: Teicher doesn't seem to be aware that Cooper has moved to safety.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Here's my guess on the 53 man as of now

QB:

1. Smith
2. Murray
3. Hogan
No Phantom IR necessary.

RB:

1. Charles
2. Ware
3. West
4. FB: Sherman

WR:

p-Z Maclin
p-X Conley
p-S Wilson
4. Streater
5. Robinson
Gadget: Hill

OL:

LT: Fisher
LG: Ehinger
C: Morse
RG: Reid
RT: Schwartz
Fulton
LDT
Pughsley

TE:

Kelce
Harris
Move: O'Shaughnessy

DL
NT/DE:Howard
NT/DE:Poe
Base DE:Bailey
Base/Sub: Jones
Rot:Williams
Bench/Sub: Roches-Nunez

OLB

S-OLB:Houston
W-OLB: Hali
W-OLB2/S-OLB2: Ford
Rot: Massaquoi
Rot: Zombo

ILB

W-ILB: DJ
W/S-ILB: March
S-ILB2: Wilson
Bench: Alexander

CB

LCB: Peters
RCB: Gaines
Slot: Nelson
CB3 Russell
Redshirt/Slot2: White

Safety

Spur/FS/SS/Hybrid: Berry
FS-Em-CB2: Parker
Spur/SS/Hybrid/Em-CB1:Murray
Bench/Rot: Sorenson
Bench/Rot: Brown
Bench/Rot: Cooper

Kicker

Cairo Santos

Punter

Dustin Colquitt

Long Snapper

Winchester

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Ask Terez: Wrapping up the Chiefs’ OTAs and looking ahead to training camp

Terez has a Q&A.

Nothing too crazy here- but kind of surprised to see how high some of the beat guys are on Hogan right now. Maybe Hogan has a real shot at taking the backup spot after all?

Not a huge shocker with Ehinger being in the lead for a starting guard spot, but it's pretty clear there's a directive to improve the pass protection for a QB who holds the ball the 2nd most per snap among qualified QB's behind Russell Wilson. That works out decent enough when you're mobile like Rodgers, Wilson, etc, but that doesn't mean pressure should arrive in about 2 seconds on a typical snap. FWIW, Ehinger is dubbed as a technician which given my dislike for the OL in recent classes, intrigues me, but I am not sure how much muscle mass he can put on that frame between now and week 1.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Nick Jacobs predicts the 53 man

The predictions below are based on observations from three rookie camp practices, 10 days of organized team activities (OTAs) and three mandatory minicamp practices.

QUARTERBACKS (3): Alex Smith, Kevin Hogan, Aaron Murray
ON THE BUBBLE: Tyler Bray

OUTLOOK: Rookie Kevin Hogan was the second-best quarterback during spring practices, showing touch, velocity, anticipation and accuracy. The fifth-round selection did not get the same amount of snaps as Tyler Bray and Aaron Murray, but Hogan made the most of his time and showed tremendous promise.

Murray struggled to see over the line of scrimmage and had inaccurate passes because of it. The third-year pro’s deep passes either had a wobble or were typically underthrown, leading to inconsistent performances throughout the spring.

Bray appears to be comfortable throwing the crossing route and deep ball. But he has a habit of trying to rifle the ball to his receiver at a spot rather than anticipating where they will be with timing, all of which leads to inaccurate passes that might be high, wide or behind the receiver. The fourth-year veteran has made the strides to continue investing time at this point, but Murray gets the nod for his athletic ability.

RUNNING BACKS (5): Jamaal Charles, Spencer Ware, Charcandrick West, Anthony Sherman, Darrin Reaves
ON THE BUBBLE: Knile Davis, Trey Millard

OUTLOOK: The running back position may need to be more of a focal point in 2016 because quarterback Alex Smith is a valuable asset to the Chiefs’ chances at Super Bowl contention. Coach Andy Reid and his staff will need to lessen the opportunities Smith has of taking hits.

The Chiefs’ running back position has the opportunity to be utilized in a similiar way as the 2014 group. All the backs have the athletic ability of wide receivers and can catch out of the backfield or line up wide.

The tough decision will be between Reaves and Davis.

Davis has the experience, but fumbling issues and his running style have never arguably meshed in the offense. Tyreek Hill’s ability to return may have a bigger impact on Davis than most realize.

WIDE RECEIVERS (6): Jeremy Maclin, Rod Streater, Tyreek Hill, Chris Conley, Albert Wilson, Demarcus Robinson
ON THE BUBBLE: Da’Ron Brown, De’Anthony Thomas, Mike Williams, Frankie Hammond Jr., Mitch Mathews, Kashif Moore, Seantavius Jones

OUTLOOK: The situation at wide receiver will be one to monitor during training camp. The Chiefs would benefit from keeping six wide receivers, but numbers at running back, tight end, linebacker and defensive backs could impact this position.

Hill has outperformed Thomas during spring practices and shows a burst on the field that rivals Jamaal Charles’ speed.

The toughest decision will likely be between Wilson and Robinson. Wilson knows the offense better, but Robinson has a bigger investment as a fourth-round pick. Right now, both are on this version but that could change once the pads come on.

TIGHT ENDS (4): Travis Kelce, Demetrius Harris, Ross Travis, James O’Shaughnessy
ON THE BUBBLE: Brian Parker

OUTLOOK: The athletic ability showcased by the tight ends could provide a promising combination for a passing offense that ranked 30th in 2015. Ross was consistently getting open and making acrobatic catches over the middle. O’Shaughnessy began to regain his form during minicamp once he passed his physical.

OFFENSIVE LINE (7): Eric Fisher, Parker Ehinger, Mitch Morse, Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, Mitchell Schwartz, Jah Reid, Zach Fulton
ON THE BUBBLE: Jordan Devey, Curtis Feigt, Reid Fragel, Garrick Mayweather, Daniel Munyer, Drew Nowak, Jarrod Pughsley, Zach Sterup

OUTLOOK: The backups at this position will be tough to gauge. The Chiefs typically dress seven for a game, so based on numbers they could be looking for one to pick up the eighth spot and another two for the practice squad.

DEFENSIVE LINE (6): Jaye Howard, Dontari Poe, Allen Bailey, Chris Jones, Nick Williams, Rakeem Nunez-Roches
ON THE BUBBLE: David King, Jimmy Staten, Alameda Ta’amu, Niko Davis

OUTLOOK: The promotion of Britt Reid to defensive line coach from assistant coach showed during spring practices. The first-year NFL position coach had the defensive line working countless pass rushing drills during down time, which wasn’t a familiar sight the past three seasons.

Defensive line could arguably be the Chiefs’ strongest position from top to bottom in 2016. The pads will determine the fifth and sixth spots.

OUTSIDE LINEBACKERS (5): Tamba Hali, Dee Ford, Frank Zombo, Dezman Moses, Dadi Nicolas
PHYSICALLY UNABLE TO PERFORM (PUP) LIST: Justin Houston (knee)
ON THE BUBBLE: Jonathan Massaquoi

OUTLOOK: The outside linebacker position is a potential position of concern headed into training camp.

Hali will likely need camp and preseason reps reduced to withstand the wear and tear of an NFL season. Zombo and Moses lack the change of direction to have a similar impact as Hali or Houston would.

This is the season where Ford must take the step forward or the Chiefs will find themselves in trouble. Teams have to account for Houston and Hali on every play, and if the next rusher up does not have a similiar impact, running backs and tight ends don’t have to chip the rusher. That allows for an additional receiving option in the passing game and chucks of yardage.

Nicolas has some promising speed, but will need time to develop his strength in the weight room to withstand the demands in the run game.

INSIDE LINEBACKERS (4): Derrick Johnson, Justin March, D.J. Alexander, Ramik Wilson
ON THE BUBBLE: Josh Mauga, Terrance Smith, Andy Mulumba, Tyrell Adams

OUTLOOK: The final roster spot or two at the inside linebacker position will be intriguing. March arguably outplayed Mauga during the early portions of training camp in 2015. Wilson and Alexander provided an impact on special teams while getting time to develop into consistent contributions.

The Chiefs have a tough decision based on numbers at other positions.

CORNERBACKS (5): Marcus Peters, Phillip Gaines, Steven Nelson, D.J. White, KeiVarae Russell
ON THE BUBBLE: Deveron Carr, Shannon Edwards, Vernon Harris, Tre Jones

OUTLOOK: The five spots are all picks the organization has invested in over the past three seasons. The sixth position will likely be a player that can contribute on special teams, cornerback and safety.

SAFETIES (5): Eric Berry, Ron Parker, Daniel Sorensen, Stevie Brown, Eric Murray
ON THE BUBBLE: Marcus Cooper, Jamell Fleming, Shak Randolph, Akeem Davis

OUTLOOK: The fifth and potential sixth spot at safety will be an intriguing battle.

Brown looks comfortable at the position and the Chiefs have a draft pick invested in Murray, who can also rotate at corner. Cooper appeared to find a nice comfortable level at the position driving on the ball and intercepting multiple passes during camp. He shows promise being able to read and diagonsis the play in front of him. Fleming has typically appeared to be comfortable in zone coverage.

SPECIALISTS (3): Dustin Colquitt, Cairo Santos, James Winchester
ON THE BUBBLE: None

OUTLOOK: The specialist position appears locked in place for another season.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Really selling on the idea the Chiefs carry Reaves outside of the PS. Seems like just a waste of a roster spot, imo. Not too high on the idea of 4 TE's either. I'd be pretty interested to see Cooper at safety. Seems to me so long as the play was in front of him, he did a pretty decent job. Would need to recheck, however.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Happy July 4th!

Just under 4 weeks until camp.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Getting close...

 

[cdumler7]

Getting close...

Heard any news of when to expect Berry to sign his Franchise Tag and actually get back with the team?

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Heard any news of when to expect Berry to sign his Franchise Tag and actually get back with the team?

Nope. Just waiting for more information about Gaines, Charles, and Houston more generally.

Is Houston PUP bound, IR to return, IR, or none of the above right now is my biggest question. Quite frankly I'd like more reps for the Stevie Browns and Eric Murrays of the world anyway at safety. Berry is no stranger to the defense when he comes back.

 

[cdumler7]

Nope. Just waiting for more information about Gaines, Charles, and Houston more generally.

Is Houston PUP bound, IR to return, IR, or none of the above right now is my biggest question. Quite frankly I'd like more reps for the Stevie Browns and Eric Murrays of the world anyway at safety. Berry is no stranger to the defense when he comes back.

Good point. Definitely going to be interesting to see what happens with Houston. The biggest thing that you have to worry though with a guy that misses the entire off season is that while they can stay in shape there is a difference between being in shape and being in football shape. Players talk all the time that it takes a while to get used to making football moves against actual people and we have seen many players who sit out the entire off season get injured early and often.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

A list that never ceases to amaze me. Jamaal is probably one of the very few atheletes I'll legitimately miss when he's gone.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Tyreek Hill apparently is still dominating in camp with his speed. Had a Hitch'n'go for an 80 yard TD and ran the same route with a cut to create another play with 10-15 yards of seperation. Camp superstar...

Ferrari Russel said he has never seen anyone faster; only to apologize to his college teammate Will Fuller.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

“So far they have tried me at the nickel and corner spot, so I’ve been trying to learn it all,” Russell said via quotes from the Chiefs. “Trying to learn the safety just in case somebody goes down in that position and they want me to play safety – I got to know that as well. So far, I’ve been trying to learn a little bit of nickel, a little bit of corner.

 

[Born to run]

I like the Chiefs, I think they have a decent shot at winning the division. Just don't kick our ass too badly this year.

 

[Black Adam]

I like the Chiefs, I think they have a decent shot at winning the division. Just don't kick our ass too badly this year.

Man, with all the season sweeps you were getting from us for a while karma had to work somewhere...

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Man, with all the season sweeps you were getting from us for a while karma had to work somewhere...

Yeah, there haven't been too many games where I was ever too frustrated by the Broncos or Raiders personally in my short lifetime, even recently. The Chargers, Rivers, and LT need a few ass whoopings as payback.

 

[Black Adam]

you were mentioning Tyreek Hill. got this off KCChiefs.com(yeah, I still go there lol)...

If you were making a list of Kansas City Chiefs who have been turning heads with their playmaking ability during offseason workouts, it would have to include fifth-round pick Tyreek Hill.

Hill’s reported 4.2-ish 40-yard dash speed has translated to the field, where he’s made a number of spectacular plays—one of which even had cornerbacks coach Al Harris shaking his head as he talked with one of his defensive backs during OTAs.

On that particular play, the ball actually looked to be overthrown, but Hill clicked into another gear, catching up to the ball and beating his defender, who originally had been right at his hip. By the time the ball reached them, Hill was three yards ahead of the defender with his arms stretched out, and it landed in his fingertips for a 40-plus-yard touchdown.

There’s nothing Harris could have told his guy to do differently. Hill simply ran past him as the ball descended.

“It doesn't mean anything because it's not pads,” Hill said of the plays he’s been making at offseason workouts. “Any fast guy can do it. Everybody reads articles on fast guys making plays. You just have to wait to camp and see what's up.”

Hill isn’t satisfied with making plays in shorts, even if it’s the only opportunity he has been given to show his teammates what he can do on the field so far.

He knows the next step is at training camp, where the pads come on and they get to real football.

“It's going to be physical,” Hill said of training camp. “That's the only thing I’ve heard. I can't wait.”