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Put Burrow in bubble wrap
I've been a fan of his for awhile now - but man, this season was other wordly.So what did you guys think of our shiny new QB?
I've been a fan of his for awhile now - but man, this season was other wordly.
I don't think he has an "elite" arm in terms of strength. Honestly, I think his arm is only slightly better than Dalton's, but Burrow has the ability to see the WR coming open, get the ball out, put it on the spot. His anticipation on his throws, and the ability to drop those deep throws to the WR in stride are amazing.
You can talk about the scheme they ran this year, and this and that, but Burrow puts the ball ON. The. Money. Period.
I'd still listen to calls - if someone is willing to put up a 1999 Saints like offer for an entire draft - I'd listen. Not sure I'd take it, unless something crops up that makes anyone think that Burrow can't win at a high level in the NFL.
Totally agree - was just saying, I'd listen.I am not sure you do that even. Normally, yes, you jump all over it, but the opportunity to get a kid from this neck of the woods, who is this good and a real potential future franchise QB, you don't let that go. Franchise QB's change the trajectory of a franchise for 12 to 15 years. Brady, Brees, Montana, Manning, Elway, Aikman, Kelly, etc. You just don't give that up for anything.
Anyone still want Chase Young?
I think its like Cincy said, the guy puts the ball on the money. He's not afraid in the pocket, he stands tall and throws great passes. He's also a lot more mobile than a lot of quaterbacks in the league.
At this point the Bengals have one mission that is critical for success. They need to bring that offensive line at least up to league average. They have some okay pieces, but should add some more. You have to give the kid some chance at success next season.
What if we have that guy in Johnson? Don't want to drop a dime on a RT when you potentially have one in Johnson. However, you don't want to have complete faith in Johnson panning out after only 82 snaps either. I get the point.
My favorite part of this Championship game, though, is listening to all the buckeye homers melt down still, 2 weeks later, about how they should be in this game, and that they would have beaten LSU.
GTFOH! All the hand-wringing and bellyaching about the officials - You had 4 opportunities to put that game away in the first 20 minutes - and scored just 1 TD. The Ref did not make Dobbins drop a TD pass, nor did they stop the offense in the red-zone. They also had nothing to do with allowing Clemson to march 94 yards in 5 plays to score the go-ahead TD.
Allowing a team like Clemson to hang around came back to bite them in the ass. I love all the wallowing in self-pity these guys are doing.
Not sure OSU would have beat LSU, but they had beat Clemson. The refs bailed them out. There were moments Clemson played really well and they shut parts of the Buckeye's game down. Clemson is a damn good team. But that targeting call was bullshit that changed the entire trajectory of the game. Then the REVERSAL on the fumble/TD was crazy too. That was a TD. With all that said, as jobbed as OSU got from the SEC refs calling that game, they still had a chance to win, but Olave broke off his route right as Fields was going to hit him across the goal line for a TD and it was picked to seal the game. Clemson will go down as winning that game on paper, but in reality, they were helped tremendously in that game by the refs.
Lawrence did have a good game though. And Clemson's defense stepped up when they needed it.
I'm sorry - I just can't buy the officials jobbed them bullshit. Targeting call was 100% correct. That is the very definition of targeting. If you don't like the rule, that's fine, but that is THE RULE. You CANNOT lower your helmet and hit the QB, or WR, with the crown of you helmet. It doesn't matter if the offensive player drops his head/shoulder into the target area - if the defender doesn't lower his helmet, it's all a moot point. (as an aside, it was nearly 100% identical to last night's call, which also led to an ejection - 100% the right call).
The Fumble - I called it live, it was not a fumble. I still don't believe it was a fumble. That being said - I'm not sure they should have over-turned it. The issue I had with it being a fumble was that the defender hit the WR right at the same time he caught it - the WR never had a chance to establish any kind of momentum on his own, make any kind of actual move - not to mention, he was driven back 3 yards before he lost the ball - Forward progress (at worst) should have been considered if it were a catch, otherwise, it should have been incomplete.
However, NONE of that matters, because OSU had the lead late...and have up a 94 yard drive in FIVE PLAYS!! Forget the fact that the score probably should have been, at worst, 24-0, in the 1st quarter, and game all but over - instead it was just 16 - and then OSU slammed into the punter. 16-7. Then targeting - 16-14, and Clemson was back in the game. The only thing that let Clemson off the hook in that game was OSU not finishing - and that had been a theme all year long with them.
So, did the officials hurt - yeah, it hurt - but can you lay that blame at their feet? No way. OSU needs to look in the mirror and own up to their short-comings and figure out why they struggled all year long to close out games and finish.
What if we have that guy in Johnson? Don't want to drop a dime on a RT when you potentially have one in Johnson. However, you don't want to have complete faith in Johnson panning out after only 82 snaps either. I get the point.
Regarding the officials.... The targeting call was correct. You can hate it, but it is the right call based on the rulebook. I thought the fumble/incompletion was a fumble, but I understand why it was overturned.
In general though I agree with Cincy... They didn't generate enough points to show for the early dominance in the game. Score touchdowns and the whole game is different. With OSU's pass rush and secondary, they would have been hard to beat with a 2+ touchdown lead.