broncosmitty
Banned in Europe
How far is it from Ashville NC to SLC? By foot.ETA?
Im a fast walker though. But Im no Tyrunn.
How far is it from Ashville NC to SLC? By foot.ETA?
That's just TrustMe being a punk bitch, like normal. He won't argue the topic at hand, but instead he goes back to his notes and brings up past arguments, like a woman, because that's what bitches do.I'm lost on all this Patriots thingy... not sure if tpaulus said since '09 or if TrustMeIamRight is assuming '09. At any rate on a side note the Packers only have their 2nd rounder (Randall Cobb) left from 2011.
That's just TrustMe being a punk bitch, like normal. He won't argue the topic at hand, but instead he goes back to his notes and brings up past arguments, like a woman, because that's what bitches do.
Wait, how did we get 8 pages out of a thread about a nominal reserve signing?
Once again, I will preface by saying, Suh was my favorite player on the team. You are talking about him, as if he is putting up JJ Watt numbers, while carrying the Lions to league titles and playoff wins the last 5 years.
Last year was the 1st time we had a good defense, which happened, because we had players like Levy, Quinn, Slay, Ansah all playing at an extremely high level, along with Suh, and a DC who figured out how to use their talents. Would I absolutely love to have Suh back? Absolutely. Do I think the defense is going to have a huge drop? No. I actually think Detroit will still be one of the best against the run. The pressure on the QB is what I will have to see, as I don't know a ton about Tyrunn Walker and Ngata is known more for run stopping than getting after the QB.
As far as "another Suh" never falling into our lap. We could have had our "next Suh" LAST YEAR. Aaron Donald graded out as the #1 DT in the NFL as a rookie. He had 9 sacks (Suh has had one season with more sacks), he forced 2 fumbles (Suh has forced 2 fumbles in FIVE years), he had 12 Stuffs (Suh had 9 stuffs combined for his 1st two years) and he had 49 tackles (Suh had more in 2 of his 5 years).
So please stop talking as if Suh is this once in a generation talent. He is a tremendous talent and one of the top 2 or 3 DT's in the NFL, but nothing he has done isn't something we haven't watched before and actually done better (Suh's biggest critic -- Warren Sapp). The only once in a generation talent in the NFL right now is JJ Watt, who just so happened to fall into the lap of the Texans. I better put IMO before someone calls me out as speaking as fact.
With the one notable exception being their play on the field last season. We were pretty well superior in that aspect.Suh leads all DT's in sacks, tackles, QB hurries, and hits since 2010. You and rest and the rainbow room can keep downplaying him all you want. If Suh was drafted by the Rams he'd be crushing his numbers w the Lions. Rams D is superior to the Lions D in every way. Apples to oranges.
S.uh leads all DT's in sacks, tackles, QB hurries, and hits since 2010. You and rest and the rainbow room can keep downplaying him all you want. If Suh was drafted by the Rams he'd be crushing his numbers w the Lions. Rams D is superior to the Lions D in every way. Apples to oranges.
I just pointed out a rookie graded out as the #1 DT in the NFL last year. A rookie that literally fell into our laps, only to be passed over.
And you won't hear me argue that Suh isn't one of the best DT's in the NFL right now. He is. Is he far and away the best DT? No. As I have said -- I agree with most of the stuff you say on this board. There isn't a chance in a hell though I would pay, not just Suh, but any DT in the NFL, 19 million a year and no chance would I give any player on defense more than JJ Watt. Here is why:
Tackles
Watt 295
Suh 235
Sacks
Watt 57.0
Suh 36.0
Pass Defensed
Watt 37
Suh 15
Stuffs
Watt 62
Suh 36
Forced Fumbles
Watt 12
Suh 11
Fumbles Recovered
Watt 11
Suh 1
Blocked Kicks
Watt 4
Suh 1
I love Suh, but Watt faces double and triple teams just like Suh and he is just on another level. I should also point out -- Watt's numbers are for 4 years. Suh's numbers are for 5 years. So it is only going to get uglier.
Watt's numbers aren't skewed either as he plays DT in the 3-4, instead of many guys who ring up stats as a 3-4 rush OLB.
If you can convince me that Suh is a better player and worth the money he was paid -- I'm willing to listen.
And the results are?