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Kovy decision on Monday

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he's in russia right now hahah
 

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Wow, according to some folks here the NHL didn't have a chance to win this one.
 

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Wow, according to some folks here the NHL didn't have a chance to win this one.

Who? I know a lot of people thought the NHL shouldn't win it. Still don't think they should've won. Not too surprised though.
 

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good, for the NHL but now I will have to listen to all me friends saying the Kings have a chance at Kovy. I would agree if there is a cap hit fine given to NJD, but the odds of that are really small. I think the NHL will just be happy it won. If a fine is given, I think it would be more likely to be a loss of a 4/5th round pick next year.

Kovy will go to the Devils by Friday with a restructured deal that is not so blantant.
It would be nice to hear the "reason" for the ruling.
 

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Wow, according to some folks here the NHL didn't have a chance to win this one.

I was hoping for the NHLPA, but by no means did I think it was a slam dunk that they would win. Bettman is one crafty SOB.
 

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Who? I know a lot of people thought the NHL shouldn't win it. Still don't think they should've won. Not too surprised though.

You seriously are not surprised after all the shit you said about how the league can't change this and that?
 

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I was kind of looking forward to watching that contract bite the Devils in the ass. Oh well.
 

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You seriously are not surprised after all the shit you said about how the league can't change this and that?

Not really. Stupid things like this happen all the time. There are a lot of stupid people in power. The league shouldn't have won. Kovy's deal broke no rules in the CBA. It's ridiculous it was overturned after Hossa just played a season with the exact same structured contract. Oh well.

Edit: And I stand by all that "shit" I said.
 

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I was kind of looking forward to watching that contract bite the Devils in the ass. Oh well.
Actually, with the money Kovy wants, if the Devils end up restructuring and keeping him, then the new contract would end up with more bite, in terms of cap hit at least.
 

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It's ridiculous it was overturned after Hossa just played a season with the exact same structured contract. Oh well.

Edit: And I stand by all that "shit" I said.
I'm not defending the ruling per se, but the Kovy contract was much more blatent than the Hossa one. To say that they were structured the exact same is a bit understated, IMO.
 

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Actually, with the money Kovy wants, if the Devils end up restructuring and keeping him, then the new contract would end up with more bite, in terms of cap hit at least.

Yeah, we'll wait and see. But for some reason I just have a bad feeling regarding giving Kovy a 10+ year deal.
 

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Yeah, we'll wait and see. But for some reason I just have a bad feeling regarding giving Kovy a 10+ year deal.
Glass half full, dev fans...perhaps the NHL just saved the Devils from shooting themselves in the foot ;)
 

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Glass half full, dev fans...perhaps the NHL just saved the Devils from shooting themselves in the foot ;)

I just feel like no one's learned anything from these long deals that have gone sour.
 

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All the Devils need to do is chop two or three years off the contract, which would make it identical to Hossa's. It jumps his cap hit from a 6 to a 7, which hurts, but is still doable.

The real problem is whether or not Bettman decides to punish the Devils. My understanding is that he can not only fine them, but he can reduce their cap hit by 1.5 mil.

I am glad to see sanity prevail, as I don't think it's in any team's best interest to have a 17 year contract on the books.
 

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AJ, how did you make/find that avatar? Bob Ross ruled.
 

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So I guess the main argument the league put forward is that no one could expect Kovy to be playing until the end of his contract?!? Hmmm, Mark Recchi is still playing, Chris Chelios played until the age of 47. Oh well.
 

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So I guess the main argument the league put forward is that no one could expect Kovy to be playing until the end of his contract?!? Hmmm, Mark Recchi is still playing, Chris Chelios played until the age of 47. Oh well.

If that's the case, then put the last two years at 11.5 instead of league minimum. After all, Kovy has the intention to play it out...might as well still be earning a legit paycheck.
 

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I thought the main reason behind the ruling was the level of cap circumvention, not the length?

In my eyes, the difference between Kovy's contract and, say, Hossa's contract is like the difference between getting stopped for going 90 in a 65mph zone versus going 75 in a 65 zone.
 

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I thought the main reason behind the ruling was the level of cap circumvention, not the length?

In my eyes, the difference between Kovy's contract and, say, Hossa's contract is like the difference between getting stopped for going 90 in a 65mph zone versus going 75 in a 65 zone.

No cause both contracts are structured the same way. The difference would be going 90 in a 65 and 77 in a 55. Both are going nearly 140% of the speed limit.

Like I said, the league said it was ok to pay 95% of a player's salary over the first 2/3rds of the deal. They approved it with Hossa's deal. The only difference is Kovy's is longer. Seeing as there is no term limit in the CBA, I can't see why Kovy's was rejected while Hossa's was not.
 
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