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CameronFrye

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Aw, gotcha. Cam didn't ever give me the impression of being the shrinking violet type, I'm sure he'll be back full of piss and vinegar.

No, I was using the HF Alert for myself. I wasn't sure if I misread what you wrote. Also, just because gp is wicked smart (seriously, I have to wikipedia a lot of the cases he brings up, lol), doesn't mean he's infallible. If you gotta feeling, I'm glad you stick to it msg.

EDIT: There are a ton of smart folks on this board, sometimes they look good and sometimes they look bad.....and I use all of the knowledge you guys give me to sound smart to other folks outside of this forum and use them as my own thoughts without citing any of you aholes. :D

I am not the shrinking violet type. I promise. I have family in town and we have been out and about every day. They're leaving Saturday so I will be back Sunday. Fret not little campers. My bad attitude and desire for a true 30-HR guy are not going anywhere, even if I did incorrectly choose my words.
 

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And I am taking them to the Giants game tomorrow, as any good host should do when family from out of state visits the Bay Area.
 

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I am not the shrinking violet type. I promise. I have family in town and we have been out and about every day. They're leaving Saturday so I will be back Sunday. Fret not little campers. My bad attitude and desire for a true 30-HR guy are not going anywhere, even if I did incorrectly choose my words.

Thank goodness. We thought we'd lost ya, son!

:focus:
 

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I am not the shrinking violet type. I promise. I have family in town and we have been out and about every day. They're leaving Saturday so I will be back Sunday. Fret not little campers. My bad attitude and desire for a true 30-HR guy are not going anywhere, even if I did incorrectly choose my words.

I never got the impression that you left.

For the record, I agree that the Giants do need a cornerstone power threat to revolve guys like Melky, Panda, and Posey around. While these 3 do have power to reach the seats, there isn't a consistent power threat in the lineup (I know, capt. obvious)

The true debate lies in the means to acquire this magical bat.
 

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I agree with everything, but the bolded. I love that the Dodgers are relevant. This is good for fans, players and most of California.

Plus, you keep bringing this up like it's something that absolutely no one expected. The exact scenario of the Dodgers opening by winning 2/3 of their games may be something that no one expected, but that is often the case with "beginning of the season guesses." Any prognosticators who didn't think the Dodgers had the personnel to at least compete for the Division, and maybe get a playoff spot was kidding themselves. They are still in that position... as are the Giants and Diamondbacks.

I'm not saying the Dodgers are going to completely flame out, but they could have certain players go back to career norms, and finish with 90 wins. That certainly would've sounded high in spring training, but I wouldn't have dismissed that prediction like it was a Cazstradomous Rant. This is gonna be a really fun season.

This mimics my stance as well. Call me a doubting Thomas, but it's not that its just the dodgers, it's that it needs to be proven over the course of a season for me to buy in.

I had the same feeling about the 2010 Padres.

I've seen too many teams start out hot and disappear in the dog days of a season to call anything a certainty, especially before the all-star break.
 

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I never got the impression that you left.

For the record, I agree that the Giants do need a cornerstone power threat to revolve guys like Melky, Panda, and Posey around. While these 3 do have power to reach the seats, there isn't a consistent power threat in the lineup (I know, capt. obvious)

The true debate lies in the means to acquire this magical bat.

Carlos Quentin, 4 years $40 mil, FA end of this year. He's an injury risk but then so is/was Beltran and CQ is only 30 yrs old. Probably not happening this year, but if the Padres were interested in dealing him at the deadline I hope Sabean gives them a call.
 

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This mimics my stance as well. Call me a doubting Thomas, but it's not that its just the dodgers, it's that it needs to be proven over the course of a season for me to buy in.

I had the same feeling about the 2010 Padres.

I've seen too many teams start out hot and disappear in the dog days of a season to call anything a certainty, especially before the all-star break.

I hear you but by the time you started thinking the 2010 Padres were for real, was it already September?

After April sure who knows. Even May. But it's mid June now, and they are winning even without their MVP. They aren't going to completely collapse (hope I'm wrong!) this year. They will cool from their 103 win pace, but I doubt we see a collapse like the Red Sox last year.
 

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I hear you but by the time you started thinking the 2010 Padres were for real, was it already September?

After April sure who knows. Even May. But it's mid June now, and they are winning even without their MVP. They aren't going to completely collapse (hope I'm wrong!) this year. They will cool from their 103 win pace, but I doubt we see a collapse like the Red Sox last year.

Exactly. It won't take a complete collapse for them to win 90 games and make the playoffs. It will take their roster playing to career norms (even with no more injuries).

We're in the world of expanded postseason formats. That Red Soxesque collapse will rarely happen again for the simple fact that there is another available playoff spot. I wouldn't say that the Dodgers collapsed if they make the playoffs. 90 wins could do it, but if LA gets anywhere near the mid-90s I will be shocked, and tip my cap. Then, I'll watch the Giants beat them in the NLCS.
 

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AB right before Belt's homer: IF YOU DON'T PARK THIS NEXT PITCH IN THE WATER, THE ONLY TIME YOU'LL BE GETTING YOUR SKINNY ASS OFF THAT BENCH WILL BE TO GRAB ME A BETWEEN-INNING BEER!
 
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