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Kelce and a 2-year "highest paid" extension. Dumb.
 

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Kelce and a 2-year "highest paid" extension. Dumb.
I'm sure if I was Travis Kelce's agent I would've been blowing up his phone to do this for years. KC has no leverage in this situation best I can tell.
 

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Not saying he isnt deserving, but he's like 35... cant see him producing like he did going forward.
 

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Not saying he isnt deserving, but he's like 35... cant see him producing like he did going forward.
Oh, I agree. Not only is he turning 35 next year but he already has 22 postseason games which is probably on average about another year's worth of tread compared to many of the other top TEs when trying to figure out when the dropoff occurs.

His entire $17 million salary for the 2024 season is guaranteed and the $17.25 million for the 2025 season will be fully guaranteed on the third day of the 2025 league year

There seems to be conflicting reports. I'm reading he is just getting 2 years and is the highest paid both years but nothing after that
 

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Oh, I agree. Not only is he turning 35 next year but he already has 22 postseason games which is probably on average about another year's worth of tread compared to many of the other top TEs when trying to figure out when the dropoff occurs.

His entire $17 million salary for the 2024 season is guaranteed and the $17.25 million for the 2025 season will be fully guaranteed on the third day of the 2025 league year

There seems to be conflicting reports. I'm reading he is just getting 2 years and is the highest paid both years but nothing after that
TEs can last. Tony Gonzalez was still producing at his usual levels in his last season at age 37.
 

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TEs can last. Tony Gonzalez was still producing at his usual levels in his last season at age 37.
MPH speed on the field is a bit more important to Kelce's game than Tony G's game.

I strongly suspect that the plan will be to bring up Jared Wiley as Noah Gray's replacement and Wiley will eat into Kelce's production starting year 2.
 

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MPH speed on the field is a bit more important to Kelce's game than Tony G's game.

I strongly suspect that the plan will be to bring up Jared Wiley as Noah Gray's replacement and Wiley will eat into Kelce's production starting year 2.

he gets wide open all the time without using speed. sure, his YAC numbers will probably decline, but as long as Mahomes is throwing it to him, they have a special connection on the field.
 

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TEs can last. Tony Gonzalez was still producing at his usual levels in his last season at age 37.
Very very short list of TE with 1000 yards age 35 or over.
 

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he gets wide open all the time without using speed. sure, his YAC numbers will probably decline, but as long as Mahomes is throwing it to him, they have a special connection on the field.
Yeah but his threat of speed is what gives him so much separation underneath.
 

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Yeah but his threat of speed is what gives him so much separation underneath.

hopefully KC can find a couple of guys that are fast to keep those safeties honest then. It would be perfect if they could get a WR that set the combine record in the 40 and maybe another WR that runs a 4.27 to offset any loss of step Kelce might have.
 

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Wouldn't be surprised if Kelce was one them. Those are two of the all time greats. Maybe The 2.
He is elite. No question there.
But there were 5 TE that had as many (or better) fantasy points than Kelce did in 2023.
His lock as the top TE is slipping.
 

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Very very short list of TE with 1000 yards age 35 or over.
I'm not sure that's the question, since only 13 have more than one 100-yard season.

Of those 13, only six played at age 35 or later:

Gonzalez
Witten
Olsen
Sharpe
Graham
Gates

And of those six, only four had a 600-yard season age 32-34:

Gates
Sharpe
Witten
Gonzalez

How did they do in their age-35 season?

Gonzalez: 875 yds, 7 TDs
Witten: 560 yds, 5 TDs
Sharpe: 770 yds, 8 TDs
Gates: 630 yds, 5 TDs

Mind you, none of those guys have more than three 1000-yd seasons. Kelce has SEVEN.

Guy's probably still bankable for 800 yards and half a dozen TDs a year for the next two years, which would still make him one of the top TEs.
 

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Very very short list of TE with 1000 yards age 35 or over.
I mean, if you're going to use 1000 yards for a tight end as the gauge not many have done that ever, forget at age 35 or over. In NFL history, only 27 tight ends have ever gone over 1000 yards and only 13 have done it more than once. Kelce has 7 (should have been 8 if he didn't sit out week 18 last year) and nobody else has more than 4 (Gronk, Tony G, and Witten). I think he's more than earned his pay raise. Besides, he still has a long way to go to become the breadwinner in that relationship.

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Gallup signs with the Raiders. Given my disdain for J. Meyers, I love this for him and the Raiders. Put Myers back in the slot where he belongs (and given the assumed 2 tight standard set, on the bench more often than not), and give the 'Shew some real options out there
 
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