Darvin Ham fired

[shopson67]

A lot of that value is the state of the art new arena the Warriors built with their own money. Lakers owners are not rich like most owners. The Lakers are their only asset, most owners the team is a side hustle

Yet the Lakers are 3rd at 6.4B behind the Warriors and Knicks and 2nd in operating income at $159M (behind the Knicks), second in revenue at 516M (behind the Warriors) and last in debt value% (Warriors have the most debt % by a large margin).

All that said, I would love new ownership. The Buss progeny have fallen too far from the tree.

 

[msgkings322]

Yet the Lakers are 3rd at 6.4B behind the Warriors and Knicks and 2nd in operating income at $159M (behind the Knicks), second in revenue at 516M (behind the Warriors) and last in debt value% (Warriors have the most debt % by a large margin).

All that said, I would love new ownership. The Buss progeny have fallen too far from the tree.

Well yeah they borrowed the money to build the arena LOL. Just noting the Lakers owners don’t have the deep pockets most of the others do

 

[Stakesarehigh]

I suppose that relationship with Lebron is why he already interviewed with Charlotte. Everything is Lebron's fault.

Dude

You're a Lakers fan.

Surely you feel your franchise deserves a tenured coach.

 

[shopson67]

Dude

You're a Lakers fan.

Surely you feel your franchise deserves a tenured coach.

Which tenured coach that is available today is worth a shit? Atkinson, Stotts, Borego and Joerger all have losing career records. D'antoni - been there, done that. Mark Jackson is a tool. Ham was basically Bud 2.0, so no thanks there. Lue and Kidd would be great, but not available and both likely to be tied up with extensions soon. That leaves us with candidates like Redick, Quinn, Cassell, Hammon, other assistants of your choice, or trying the collegiate route (not a great idea for a Lebron team IMO).

Looking at the Lakers' past, what tenured pro coach have the Lakers succeeded with? Phil of course, but who else? Bill Sharman had limited NBA experience prior to taking over the Lakers job. Westhead had college experience only. Riley had no head coaching experience. Dunleavy had only assistant experience prior. Del Harris won coach of the year, but had a losing record overall. Mike Brown had experience, lasted 1 season. Vogel had experience and won a championship, but only lasted 2 seasons.

 

[wildturkey]

Not sure lakers is a good move for a first time coach with no experience

It's not a good move for anyone regardless of franchise. This shows you probably should be sitting as an assistant somewhere for at least a couple of years

 

[thunderc]

Terry Stotts

 

[shopson67]

Terry Stotts

Has coached a few preseason months before quitting just before the 23/24 season. He had taken 2 years away from the game prior to that brief stint. Doesn't sound like he's all that invested.

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

Now I know why OP has over 160,000 posts

Holeeee-shit!

 

[trojanfan12]

Which tenured coach that is available today is worth a shit? Atkinson, Stotts, Borego and Joerger all have losing career records. D'antoni - been there, done that. Mark Jackson is a tool. Ham was basically Bud 2.0, so no thanks there. Lue and Kidd would be great, but not available and both likely to be tied up with extensions soon. That leaves us with candidates like Redick, Quinn, Cassell, Hammon, other assistants of your choice, or trying the collegiate route (not a great idea for a Lebron team IMO).

Looking at the Lakers' past, what tenured pro coach have the Lakers succeeded with? Phil of course, but who else? Bill Sharman had limited NBA experience prior to taking over the Lakers job. Westhead had college experience only. Riley had no head coaching experience. Dunleavy had only assistant experience prior. Del Harris won coach of the year, but had a losing record overall. Mike Brown had experience, lasted 1 season. Vogel had experience and won a championship, but only lasted 2 seasons.

Soooo many awesome choices. Thank God, they fired Ham.

Maybe Doc will be available?

 

[shopson67]

Soooo many awesome choices. Thank God, they fired Ham.

Maybe Doc will be available?

poo-poo platter for sure, but many are still better options than Ham

 

[shopson67]

From Windhorst re: Lebron's role with head coach decisions:

The Lakers are now in the midst of trying to find the next head coach to guide their franchise, and some names that have been thrown around include former Milwaukee Bucks head coach Mike Budenholzer and podcaster JJ Redick. It probably goes without saying that when LeBron James is on your team, the kid from Akron is going to play a pretty significant role in basically every organizational decision, but ESPN NBA insider Brian Windhorst recently disputed this notion during an appearance on the Dan Patrick Show.

“LeBron doesn’t get involved in coaching hires, for years for many many coaches he’s always taken a distance,” said Windhorst, per Dan Patrick Show on YouTube. “In fact, and I can’t say this for every candidate, but he generally has a rule that he won’t engage with the candidate. After the coach has been hired of course he’ll have a conversation with the coach generally he wants to stay out of it, he doesn’t want it on his hands. I know there’s this belief that LeBron hires and fires all these coaches, and maybe he does like hurt coaches because he sort of kills them with a thousand paper cuts. But LeBron is very sensitive to that, and he does not want to be involved in that. So it’s not going to be like he’s going to go into Rob Pelinka and say hey I’m having a great time with JJ you should hire him that’s just not reality.”

 

[logic]

Can we trade you Monty for a shooting coach or a trainer, or a bag of balls?

 

[trojanfan12]

From Windhorst re: Lebron's role with head coach decisions:

Of course, he doesn't...because he's a coward.

If he doesn't get involved in the hiring process, he doesn't hold any accountability when he starts complaining/stops listening and wants the coach fired.

He knows that when he starts that shit, everyone will blame the coach. If he participates in the hiring process, then he has to take some accountability if the team fails.

 

[wildturkey]

Can we trade you Monty for a shooting coach or a trainer, or a bag of balls?

We'll take Monty for our medical staff. Done deal

 

[shopson67]

Of course, he doesn't...because he's a coward.

If he doesn't get involved in the hiring process, he doesn't hold any accountability when he starts complaining/stops listening and wants the coach fired.

He knows that when he starts that shit, everyone will blame the coach. If he participates in the hiring process, then he has to take some accountability if the team fails.

Again, he gets shit regardless of what he does. If he's not involved, he's to blame for not contributing. If he is involved, LeGM is running the team into the ground. Laughable shit.

 

[trojanfan12]

Again, he gets shit regardless of what he does. If he's not involved, he's to blame for not contributing. If he is involved, LeGM is running the team into the ground. Laughable shit.

He should probably keep his mouth shut and stop posting cryptic shit on twitter then.

 

[shopson67]

He should probably keep his mouth shut and stop posting cryptic shit on twitter then.

Shouldn't they all, lol. Twitter is like crack to professional athletes it seems.

 

[DJ]

We'll take Monty for our medical staff. Done deal

Rough first season there but he hasn't forgotten how to coach IMO. He has done a good job with both NO and Phoenix.

 

[DJ]

Terry Stotts

Recently, Windy said he may not be in demand because he likes to have a lot of control.

 

[DJ]

Handy was the senior coach at 5 years, so he's survived a couple of these.

Yep.