I want to say no, and here's why. This kid hasn't really had a full chance to showcase what he can do or is actually capable of. I'm not a huge fan of giving away untapped potential. JMO.
Should the Flyers Package Frost at the Trade Deadline?
Ristolainen and Giroux represent the highest valued trade bait for the Philadelphia Flyers at the deadline. Could Frost help increase return value?phillysportsnetwork.com
This is interesting.
This is his 5th year as a Flyers now, at what point are we going to see this potential?
Well you also have to consider the junk he has had to play with, and he hasn't played a full season either. I mean come on, no one was flourishing under AV.
If i was him id turn down our offer and become a free agent. Why would you want to waste another 4 years of your career not having a shot at the cup.
Man this board uses that word potential with such ease. When your 18 you have potential, when you've been with an organization for 5 years your potential is pretty much realized. Defenseman take a little longer to realize their potential but forwards are pretty much what they are at 23 years old. (Couts is an exception to this rule)
Agree, Risto has some physicality to his game but he's more bark than bite.
Gudas >>>>>> Risto
Maybe we can add Frost to a JVR deal and someone will take him.
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I think we could get better for Braun the Chariot. Some team needs a solid Dman for a run and Braun has been pretty solid all season. Fingers crossed we get something good for him.From the Athletic and this is very oddly interesting to me:
Given how much better Justin Braun is than Montreal defenseman Ben Chiarot, why do you think he is expected to get so much worse a return at the trade deadline? Are the Flyers somehow less good at “marketing” their trade bait? Does it all come back to GMs loving size, hits and PIMs instead of actual defense? Does it just come down to Chiarot playing with Shea Weber last year? I don’t get it. — Sharon G.
For starters, let’s take a quick look at the numbers to see if Sharon is correct in asserting that Braun has been significantly more valuable to the Flyers this season compared to Chiarot on the Canadiens.
OK, yeah. Sharon is certainly onto something here. Braun — at least by advanced metrics — has been a much better defensive defenseman in 2021-22 than Chiarot. But it’s Chiarot and not Braun who is consistently brought up as potentially bringing back to Montreal as much as a first-round pick as a plausible return. Why exactly is he being viewed so highly — or at least, so much higher than Braun?
I have a few theories.
First, Chiarot really impressed hockey people during the playoffs last year, and it was in large part because of one element that Chiarot brings that Braun really doesn’t — nastiness in the form of physicality. That’s not to say Braun is a soft defenseman; he’s certainly willing to do the dirty work in front of the net and retrieve pucks in corners under the weight of a heavy forecheck. But he’s just not the kind of assertive hitter that Chiarot often is, and that’s a characteristic GMs tend to really value heading into the playoffs — especially if one feels his team is lacking in that dimension. Chiarot also is averaging over three more minutes of ice time per night this season than Braun and is four years younger. Those factors won’t be lost on GMs.
But I do think the bulk of it boils down to hype, largely driven by Chiarot’s memorable postseason in 2021. If Chiarot does indeed seem poised to bring back a first-rounder, a shrewd GM would be wise to pull out of that bidding and nab Braun for a less valuable pick. That said, the problem here isn’t that Braun is being undervalued by the market — it’s more that Chiarot is being overvalued.
