2017 Fantasy rookie class News and Rumors

[SteelersPride]

Fantasy wise? One of my potential ones yes. real football? Yeah I think there could be 3-4 "franchise" types..most of the Matt Stafford-ish type ceilings. I don't see any "next Aaron Rodgers" though

fantasy wise gotta be mahomes or watson

 

[ehb5]

Kizer and mahomes are my favorites. I think I prefer Trubisky to Watson too though

 

[SteelersPride]

Kizer and mahomes are my favorites. I think I prefer Trubisky to Watson too though

real life or fabtasy

 

[TREFF]

real life or fabtasy

Yeah that's the question..if Watson can actually play QB at the NFL level..making the throws, being able to command the pocket etc.., like say maybe at least as well as Tyrod Taylor, hopefully better, .his dual threat ability make him a potential fantasy gold mine. The others? Yeah even if they turn out out to be perfectly fine QB'so, they don't have anything that jumps out and says "fantasy stud"

 

[ehb5]

real life or fabtasy

Both I guess. Mahomes is risky but he's got huge upside but that's true in both fantasy and real life. Kizers definitely my favorite.

 

[SteelersPride]

Both I guess. Mahomes is risky but he's got huge upside but that's true in both fantasy and real life. Kizers definitely my favorite.

exactly............ n yes to mixer as well

 

[Stomp]

Mahomes reminds me of Manziel no poise always looking to take off running, never sets his feet, and sidearm throws. I could be wrong though if i was watching Russell Wilsons film i'd probably say the say thing.

 

[SteelersPride]

were all forgetting about james conner, who was a beast, then got cancer, and just received a clean bil of health, if he tears up the combine, hes gonna climb

 

[Stomp]

Okay here's my rookie comparison list for the projected 1st rounders some are my observations some are comps i've seen others make

QB
Mitch Trubinsky - Matthew Stafford/Andy Dalton
Patrick Mahomes - Johnny Manziel/Colt McCoy
DeShaun Watson - Marcus Mariota/Cam Newton
DeShone Kizer - Charlie Batch/Byron Leftwitch

RB
Leonard Fournette - Trent Richardson/Corey Dillon
Dalvin Cook - Jamaal Charles/Edgerrin James
Joe Mixon - LeVeon Bell/Ray Rice
Christian McCaffrey - Clinton Portis/Tiki Barber

WR
Corey Davis - Amari Cooper/AJ Green
Mike Williams - Alshon Jeffery
John Ross - TY Hilton/Desean Jackson

 

[TREFF]

Okay here's my rookie comparison list for the projected 1st rounders some are my observations some are comps i've seen others make

QB
Mitch Trubinsky - Matthew Stafford/Andy Dalton
Patrick Mahomes - Johnny Manziel/Colt McCoy
DeShaun Watson - Marcus Mariota/Cam Newton
DeShone Kizer - Charlie Batch/Byron Leftwitch

RB
Leonard Fournette - Trent Richardson/Corey Dillon
Dalvin Cook - Jamaal Charles/Edgerrin James
Joe Mixon - LeVeon Bell/Ray Rice
Christian McCaffrey - Clinton Portis/Tiki Barber

WR
Corey Davis - Amari Cooper/AJ Green
Mike Williams - Alshon Jeffery
John Ross - TY Hilton/Desean Jackson

I like it, nice to see realistic, or at least reality based comparisons.

 

[SteelersPride]

I like it, nice to see realistic, or at least reality based comparisons.

which leaves watson with the most upside , rea life and fantasy

 

[SteelersPride]

Okay here's my rookie comparison list for the projected 1st rounders some are my observations some are comps i've seen others make

QB
Mitch Trubinsky - Matthew Stafford/Andy Dalton
Patrick Mahomes - Johnny Manziel/Colt McCoy
DeShaun Watson - Marcus Mariota/Cam Newton
DeShone Kizer - Charlie Batch/Byron Leftwitch

RB
Leonard Fournette - Trent Richardson/Corey Dillon
Dalvin Cook - Jamaal Charles/Edgerrin James
Joe Mixon - LeVeon Bell/Ray Rice
Christian McCaffrey - Clinton Portis/Tiki Barber

WR
Corey Davis - Amari Cooper/AJ Green
Mike Williams - Alshon Jeffery
John Ross - TY Hilton/Desean Jackson

RB the comparisons arent on, fournete is not trent richardson, richardson was a GREAT pass catching back......

also barber had power, mcaffery not so much

 

[TREFF]

which leaves watson with the most upside , rea life and fantasy

Qb-wise,yes
But, if only talking about these particular comparisons, in this little microscope slide, Cook maybe being Charles or Edge would be the guy is bend over backwards for, with McAffrey a close second. Tiki and Portis won me a crap ton of games and a couple titles

 

[SteelersPride]

Qb-wise,yes
But, if only talking about these particular comparisons, in this little microscope slide, Cook maybe being Charles or Edge would be the guy is bend over backwards for, with McAffrey a close second. Tiki and Portis won me a crap ton of games and a couple titles

surely they did get we're great but i don't see the comparison to tiki at alllll

 

[TREFF]

surely they did get we're great but i don't see the comparison to tiki at alllll

Similar size and skill set with a projected similar role..I'm not sold that's who I'd compare him too,but can definitely see the correlation

 

[ehb5]

My comps (I've seen some of them mentioned by others too)

QB
Kizer - Big Ben
Mahomes - Stafford but with more upside and downside
Trubisky - Ryan Tannehill? Not really sure here
Watson - Alex smith

RB
Fournette - Karlos Williams but better
Cook - Jamal Charles
Mixon - LeVeon bell

Corey Davis - Demaryius Thomas
Mike Williams - I like the jeffery comp
John ross - Jamison crowder

 

[TREFF]

My comps (I've seen some of them mentioned by others too)

QB
Kizer - Big Ben
Mahomes - Stafford but with more upside and downside
Trubisky - Ryan Tannehill? Not really sure here
Watson - Alex smith

RB
Fournette - Karlos Williams but better
Cook - Jamal Charles
Mixon - LeVeon bell

Corey Davis - Demaryius Thomas
Mike Williams - I like the jeffery comp
John ross - Jamison crowder

I'd like to hear some explanation on the Watson/Alex Smith one. He can already throw better, much better runner..and I can't imagine he'd be scared to throw outside the numbers. Literally see no similarities between the two. What's your thoughts there?

 

[ehb5]

I'd like to hear some explanation on the Watson/Alex Smith one. He can already throw better, much better runner..and I can't imagine he'd be scared to throw outside the numbers. Literally see no similarities between the two. What's your thoughts there?

I think he has limited upside. Smith is mobile too don't forget. Watson doesn't have the strongest arm either and isn't a great downfield thrower imo. All in all I just don't think he's a great qb and is best suited to being more of a game manager who can add things in the running game too.

I feel like the biggest things people like about Watson are things like "he's a winner" or "he's shown he's clutch" which does nothing for me.

 

[TREFF]

I think he has limited upside. Smith is mobile too don't forget. Watson doesn't have the strongest arm either and isn't a great downfield thrower imo. All in all I just don't think he's a great qb and is best suited to being more of a game manager who can add things in the running game too.

I feel like the biggest things people like about Watson are things like "he's a winner" or "he's shown he's clutch" which does nothing for me.

True smith is mobile, but not to that extent. But you're right, the whole he's a winner thing, they do have that in common.

 

[Stomp]

also barber had power, mcaffery not so much

Just saw a pretty good one for McCaffrey Brian Westbrook