Minnesota rules the world of football

[Ron G]

What is #4 ranked Clemson's excuse for being outscored 14-0 in the first half of it's game with 5-3 and UR Notre Dame?

Maybe NDs QB is coming into his own. Marshall and Stanford obviously were a result of overconfidence from a team that should not have been overconfident. But I doubt SC is looking forward to their matchup and whoever gets ND in a bowl may not be happy about it. I would not be too excited about LSU or Texas either.

Although the committee is going to have to go through some mental gymnastics to get 3 SEC teams in the playoff. It would be hard to tap any two-loss team in front of a 0 or 1 loss conference champ. It will be interesting if LSU were to upset Georgia in the SEC championship. Does the loser go and winner not?

Here is a prediction, Alabama will lose its bowl game, because after all it is not worth playing if it is not for the championship.

 

[Lineman16]

Fred, You my friend are gold!

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

Maybe NDs QB is coming into his own. Marshall and Stanford obviously were a result of overconfidence from a team that should not have been overconfident. But I doubt SC is looking forward to their matchup and whoever gets ND in a bowl may not be happy about it. I would not be too excited about LSU or Texas either.

Although the committee is going to have to go through some mental gymnastics to get 3 SEC teams in the playoff. It would be hard to tap any two-loss team in front of a 0 or 1 loss conference champ. It will be interesting if LSU were to upset Georgia in the SEC championship. Does the loser go and winner not?

Here is a prediction, Alabama will lose its bowl game, because after all it is not worth playing if it is not for the championship.

A 2-loss P5 champ is not going before a 1-loss P5 champ.

The more interesting comparison is a 1-loss non-champ vs. a 2-loss champ.

 

[Ron G]

A 2-loss P5 champ is not going before a 1-loss P5 champ.

The more interesting comparison is a 1-loss non-champ vs. a 2-loss champ.

We have had that before. Alabama instead of Ohio State a few years ago. Ohio State lost to Oklahoma early while Alabama played Mercer or Citadel in one of its non-conference games. Had Ohio State scheduled the same way they would have been a 1 loss Champ.

 

[Wamu]

Fred, You my friend are gold!

He'll take that as a compliment.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Fine… put the Meth down

Never touched it. Not into drugs.


Last 50 years =

ZERO Top 5 finishes for Iowa Football,
ZERO Top 5 finishes for Iowa Baseball,
ZERO finishes of any kind for Iowa Hockey since they are losers and don't have a hockey team,
ONE single solitary Final Four appearance in Basketball.

All-time =

ZERO Nobel Prize winners,
only TEN Olympic Medalists,
only 86 Academic All-Americans.

Iowa would rank last in the B1G in R&D expenditures if it were not for Nebraska being let into the conf.


I bring that non football stuff up because IF, if the B1G ever chose to kick any schools out of the conf, they like even numbers, so they'd kick out 2, and that would be Nebraska and Iowa.

Bottom 2 contributors in R&D and media footprint, probably their top 2 priorities.

Iowa is last in production of Olympic medalists, probably one of their lowest priorities if a priority at all. At least 10 B1G schools produce more Academic All-Americans, and Iowa is THE ONLY B1G school that hasn't produced at least one Nobel Prize winner, and hasn't employed one, either? Again, the Academic All-American thing and the Nobel Prize thing are likely not even priorities, but Iowa's sucking in both make the B1G look worse.


Nebraska at least has a ton of Academic All-Americans and is good at more than one sport. They got brought in mostly because of football, which I am sure the B1G is regretting right now as that didn't work out. So football is possibly the 3rd highest priority, or Top 5, so if Iowa could boast of even one single Top 5 finish the last 50-60 years, that could be Iowa's saving grace, but they can't claim even one.

Good thing for Iowa and Nebraska, the B1G has never kicked a school out and most likely never will.

 

[DJ]

A big fat negative.

 

[Boglodyte]

Regardless of which team wins the East, if mini is the west opponent they will be so shamefully destroyed in the CG, that they should just go home for the bowl season. Staying home would be better than playing in the cat box bowl

 

[Ron G]

Never touched it. Not into drugs.


Last 50 years =

ZERO Top 5 finishes for Iowa Football,
ZERO Top 5 finishes for Iowa Baseball,
ZERO finishes of any kind for Iowa Hockey since they are losers and don't have a hockey team,
ONE single solitary Final Four appearance in Basketball.

All-time =

ZERO Nobel Prize winners,
only TEN Olympic Medalists,
only 86 Academic All-Americans.

Iowa would rank last in the B1G in R&D expenditures if it were not for Nebraska being let into the conf.


I bring that non football stuff up because IF, if the B1G ever chose to kick any schools out of the conf, they like even numbers, so they'd kick out 2, and that would be Nebraska and Iowa.

Bottom 2 contributors in R&D and media footprint, probably their top 2 priorities.

Iowa is last in production of Olympic medalists, probably one of their lowest priorities if a priority at all. At least 10 B1G schools produce more Academic All-Americans, and Iowa is THE ONLY B1G school that hasn't produced at least one Nobel Prize winner, and hasn't employed one, either? Again, the Academic All-American thing and the Nobel Prize thing are likely not even priorities, but Iowa's sucking in both make the B1G look worse.


Nebraska at least has a ton of Academic All-Americans and is good at more than one sport. They got brought in mostly because of football, which I am sure the B1G is regretting right now as that didn't work out. So football is possibly the 3rd highest priority, or Top 5, so if Iowa could boast of even one single Top 5 finish the last 50-60 years, that could be Iowa's saving grace, but they can't claim even one.

Good thing for Iowa and Nebraska, the B1G has never kicked a school out and most likely never will.

Not a defender of Iowa but they have won 24 NCAA Wrestling Championships and 37 Big Ten Wrestling Championships, so there's that.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Not a defender of Iowa but they have won 24 NCAA Wrestling Championships and 37 Big Ten Wrestling Championships, so there's that.

Oh, I have credited Iowa for their having one of the greatest Wrestling Programs of all-time, with only Oklahoma St being better.


But Iowa only has 1 NCAA men's title outside of the sport of Wrestling, a 1969 Men's Gymnastics Natl Title.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Regardless of which team wins the East, if mini is the west opponent they will be so shamefully destroyed in the CG, that they should just go home for the bowl season. Staying home would be better than playing in the cat box bowl

I wouldn't be so sure.

Granted the refs will do all they can to make sure and help either OSU or Michigan to win the game.

But if Big Slick is the QB and Ibrahim is still healthy, I wouldn't assume nothing. If NW can keep within 14 of mighty OSU and Maryland can keep within 7 of mighty Michigan, there is no way a blowout of Minnesota is guaranteed. With our receiving corps dropping passes like they have lately, I won't predict a Gopher Conf Title or anything, but keeping it within 7-10 points is well within reason.

AK's ability to run with the ball will force either Mich or Ohio St to dedicate a defender to keeping an eye on him. This will open up the field for Mo to run or AK to throw and maybe our WRs will learn how to catch the ball between now and then? lol I'm sure Kirk is holding back some of his best stuff for either the Wisc or Iowa games, or if they are not needed to win those games, for the Conf Title game/or whatever bowl game they get into. And it won't be the Cat Box bowl, either.

Unlike last year, no teams who will end up with a worse record than Minnesota will be favored over Minnesota like PSU was last year, unless we lose to Iowa or Wisc and finish with just a one game advantage over them. But if we beat both of them, one of them has to lose to the other, so we'd finish 9-3, best they can do is 7-5/6-6 if they both beat Nebraska and I don't see either of them getting a better bowl than Minnesota. So OSU/Mich will be cfp and Rose Bowl, PSU will get the #2 conf bowl tie in, and for UMn to win the West, Illinois would have to lose 2 more games, so no way they'd get taken over UMn no matter how badly they lost in the CCG. UMn would finish 5-1 with Illinois finishing up 1-3 with losses to MSU and Purdue(or NW) not impressing anyone.

 

[Boglodyte]

Granted the refs will do all they can to make sure and help either OSU or Michigan to win the game.

What a load of bullshit, even for you Fred. Be better, for once in your life.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

What a load of bullshit, even for you Fred. Be better, for once in your life.

Dude, the amount of money at stake? Don't be naive. Of course the B1G refs are going to call the game favorably for whichever Eastern team gets into the CCG. I honestly don't even care, they probably should, tbh. I don't expect B1G refs to have a sense of honor or religious principles like I have, they are most likely worldly people just like most everyone else out there, working in the high dollar world of Div 1/B1G Conf cfb. It's the way of the world now, hell now with NIL and the transfer portal, cfb is becoming more and more like pro football.

So if Minnesota wants B1G refs to call a game like that straight up, they need to avoid losing to the likes of Purdue and Illinois. If we were undefeated going into the PSU game, the refs probably would have called it straight up, figuring an undefeated Minnesota team going into the CCG would render the B1G at least as much benefit that a 10-2 PSU will gain the conf, IF UMn could beat PSU. I doubt the refs would call it favorably for Minnesota. They won't do that until Minnesota wins consistently enough to warrant being granted favored status and I'm ok with that. But I'm still going to call it out when I see it.


"Be better, for once in your life."??? STFU, half of you all wouldn't know what the word principles meant, much less have any. I DO. I don't "know" the refs were calling it favorably for PSU on purpose, I mean, I wasn't there when the B1G higher ups explained to the person in charge of the refs their reasoning for doing so, but the evidence is on video for all to see. I'm sure a thorough investigation would find plenty of video evidence to back up my "theory/belief" that B1G refs make sure calls favor the blue bloods as much as they can get away with. Why wouldn't they?

Lots of money at stake dog. If the B1G can somehow get 2 into the cfp, or at least one of OSU/Mich in the cfp and the other in the Rose Bowl, that's more cfp/bowl game money for everyone in the B1G(probably including a small bonus for the refs, off the books of course, lol), and better TV ratings, too.

That's just the reality of the situation. Until Minnesota can do what's needed to change their "tier 2 status", it's just a reality that has to be lived with.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

What a load of bullshit, even for you Fred. Be better, for once in your life.

NOBODY outside of the state of Mn wants to see a 9-3 Gopher fb team beat a 12-0 OSU/Mich, knocking out the B1G's only chance at getting a team into the cfp. The B1G would lose a lot of cash missing out on the cfp.

 

[Boglodyte]

NOBODY outside of the state of Mn wants to see a 9-3 Gopher fb team beat a 12-0 OSU/Mich, knocking out the B1G's only chance at getting a team into the cfp. The B1G would lose a lot of cash missing out on the cfp.

And no one other than you think the refs would throw the game. Like I said, be better for once.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

And no one other than you think the refs would throw the game. Like I said, be better for once.

Sure there are others. Maybe not in this place, but this place is not exactly the center of intellectual thought in the country, lol.


Let me guess, you probably still believe that the American Govt is for the most part, a force for good in the world? And most politicians are honest? And Biden isn't a crook? And the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian Disinformation?

Whole world believes cheating and corruption is the way to go, as long as you don't get caught.


What harm is there in helping out the obviously better teams, and the teams who will garner better ratings, with a few favorable calls to ensure the best teams end up in the Title game and in the cfp? At least that is probably the way the big wigs think. If I was in charge, I would do the right thing, the principled thing, but I'm not in charge and in this world, as corrupt as it is, and as focused on the almighty dollar as it is, I find it hard to condemn the B1G for looking out for it's own best interests. As a victim of their unprincipled actions, I'm going to call it out when I see it, but it's still just a game, so I'm not going to have a cow about it. A few comments bitching about it and pointing it out is enough for me.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Nailed it!!

Has Cincy EVER been?

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Yet, despite that wall of drivel you just posted, Minnesota still sucks.
FYI, Nebraska is ahead of Minnesota in the B1G West.

This aged well, lol.

 

[Ron G]

I wouldn't be so sure.

Granted the refs will do all they can to make sure and help either OSU or Michigan to win the game.

But if Big Slick is the QB and Ibrahim is still healthy, I wouldn't assume nothing. If NW can keep within 14 of mighty OSU and Maryland can keep within 7 of mighty Michigan, there is no way a blowout of Minnesota is guaranteed. With our receiving corps dropping passes like they have lately, I won't predict a Gopher Conf Title or anything, but keeping it within 7-10 points is well within reason.

AK's ability to run with the ball will force either Mich or Ohio St to dedicate a defender to keeping an eye on him. This will open up the field for Mo to run or AK to throw and maybe our WRs will learn how to catch the ball between now and then? lol I'm sure Kirk is holding back some of his best stuff for either the Wisc or Iowa games, or if they are not needed to win those games, for the Conf Title game/or whatever bowl game they get into. And it won't be the Cat Box bowl, either.

Unlike last year, no teams who will end up with a worse record than Minnesota will be favored over Minnesota like PSU was last year, unless we lose to Iowa or Wisc and finish with just a one game advantage over them. But if we beat both of them, one of them has to lose to the other, so we'd finish 9-3, best they can do is 7-5/6-6 if they both beat Nebraska and I don't see either of them getting a better bowl than Minnesota. So OSU/Mich will be cfp and Rose Bowl, PSU will get the #2 conf bowl tie in, and for UMn to win the West, Illinois would have to lose 2 more games, so no way they'd get taken over UMn no matter how badly they lost in the CCG. UMn would finish 5-1 with Illinois finishing up 1-3 with losses to MSU and Purdue(or NW) not impressing anyone.

Fred, you get tied up in your underwear trying to build up Minnesota. The reason they don't get a good bowl game is that sponsors know that few people other than you care to watch Minnesota in January (or go there for that matter).

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Still waiting on Minnesota to become a relevant football program in my lifetime. Or a dominant any sport program as I have been told they are.

Guessing you ignored my response to this remark the first time around.

Won't repeat my initial response at this time, but just curious, do you think WSU has been a relevant football program in your lifetime??? Or dominant any sport program in any sport, whatsoever?

I mean, even Cincy can claim to be a 5 time Natl Champ in Dance and Iowa has it's wrestling, and WVU has it's rifle team or something like that and Nebraska has or had a kick ass bowling team I believe, on top of their pretty decent football dynasty they had going for a while there.

So anything WSU can boast about, any sport, any sport at all? Maybe Basket weaving maybe? Water Polo? Synchronized Swimming maybe?