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bingo that will prove we could not land him no matter what we did thats not FO fault thats Kirk fault i rest my case mic drop peice
where do you get these delusions ?
 

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Do your Google homie.... Google when does the 2018 off season start... let me know what date you get.

But I get it, you want to spin the narrative that Kirk wanted out before any one in DC thought of him as a long term solution.

Again you're the one who's confused, do it yourself.

He did, and it's been proven. Don't believe me, just show me where he's signed a LTD with this team at any point between 2015 and now. Damn, you hate being wrong! Geeeez.
 

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Sty...google 2017 nfl offseason...

Fuck it...I did and here's what I got. Please take note of the months presented here. The first one is February, which is a month removed from the NEW Year. 2017 season ends after SB = new year or to make it easy, 2018. Aren't we now in 2018?

2017 NFL key offseason dates - USA TODAY
https://www.usatoday.com/.../13/2017-nfl-key-offseason-dates/97853560

Everything listed...happens before the 2018 season.
 

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Fuck it...I did and here's what I got. Please take note of the months presented here. The first one is February, which is a month removed from the NEW Year. 2017 season ends after SB = new year or to make it easy, 2018. Aren't we now in 2018?

2017 NFL key offseason dates - USA TODAY
https://www.usatoday.com/.../13/2017-nfl-key-offseason-dates/97853560

Everything listed...happens before the 2018 season.



FEB 2017 Dude.. and you say I cant stand to be wrong.

This is from the link YOU just provided

Feb. 15: First day teams can apply franchise or transition tag to impending free agents


And yet the first date a player could be tagged in the 2018 off season was FEB 20th 2018

So you post an article talking about the 2017 off season, that gives dates in 2017, but its really talking about the off season we are currently in??

Dude on this.. you are dead wrong.
 

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FEB 2017 Dude.. and you say I cant stand to be wrong.

This is from the link YOU just provided

Feb. 15: First day teams can apply franchise or transition tag to impending free agents


And yet the first date a player could be tagged in the 2018 off season was FEB 20th 2018

So you post an article talking about the 2017 off season, that gives dates in 2017, but its really talking about the off season we are currently in??

Dude on this.. you are dead wrong.
January 1st every year is called what in this country? You're reading it incorrectly! BTW: you never did answer my question, so I repeat it, this is 2018, what is this time period called in the NFL? related to which season?
 

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I don't know what you guys are talking about but I do not celebrate New Year's because my birthday is the new year I hope this helps
 

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Fuck it...I did and here's what I got. Please take note of the months presented here. The first one is February, which is a month removed from the NEW Year. 2017 season ends after SB = new year or to make it easy, 2018. Aren't we now in 2018?

2017 NFL key offseason dates - USA TODAY
https://www.usatoday.com/.../13/2017-nfl-key-offseason-dates/97853560

Everything listed...happens before the 2018 season.

That article was from February 2017. All those dates listed were in 2017 and the 2017 offseason.

You may have just clued yourself in.
 

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ok my point would be what's the point sty , the thing is SM wanted to sign him and he was told no by 396 , the halfway point of the next season KC and his agent said we are playing it out . that is what is important , as to what constitutes the off season is silly . after the super bowl is when the league wide off season begins . call it whatever number you want
 

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2017 NFL season · End date

Feb 04, 2018
 

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January 1st every year is called what in this country? You're reading it incorrectly! BTW: you never did answer my question, so I repeat it, this is 2018, what is this time period called in the NFL? related to which season?


This time period is called the 2018 off season, because it pertains and relates to the 2018 season. The Superbowl will be referred to as the Super Bowl for 2018 even though it will be played in 2019. So we are in the off season for the 2018 league year.
 

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What is 396???


Bruce Smiths AWESOME win percentage since he came to the Redskins

Well I guess technically it would be the win percentage of Rosters Bruce has constructed.
 
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ok my point would be what's the point sty , the thing is SM wanted to sign him and he was told no by 396 , the halfway point of the next season KC and his agent said we are playing it out . that is what is important , as to what constitutes the off season is silly . after the super bowl is when the league wide off season begins . call it whatever number you want


I agree with everything that you've just written, except WHY KC and his agent wouldn't sign for the 12 million offer that SM considered for him (the point). I know that you didn't include that, but you asked "what's the point" so it's not you that this whole thing is about. It is about others moving the goal posts.

First it ( a contract) wasn't ACTUALLY offered, only considered, and second because Kirk and his agent needed to gauge what his true worth was, they waited until Kirk put something on his resume. (2015 season) Had Kirk failed they would have attempted to jump all over that 12 million if formally offered. He didn't and at that point in time (also the 2015 season) a 12 million consideration was off the table from their POV.
 

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This time period is called the 2018 off season, because it pertains and relates to the 2018 season. The Superbowl will be referred to as the Super Bowl for 2018 even though it will be played in 2019. So we are in the off season for the 2018 league year.



Very funny, word game there @Shark, it's called the 2017 off season, which can ONLY happen AFTER the previous season ends!
 

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I agree with everything that you've just written, except WHY KC and his agent wouldn't sign for the 12 million offer that SM considered for him (the point). I know that you didn't include that, but you asked "what's the point" so it's not you that this whole thing is about. It is about others moving the goal posts.

First it ( a contract) wasn't ACTUALLY offered, only considered, and second because Kirk and his agent needed to gauge what his true worth was, they waited until Kirk put something on his resume. (2015 season) Had Kirk failed they would have attempted to jump all over that 12 million if formally offered. He didn't and at that point in time (also the 2015 season) a 12 million consideration was off the table from their POV.

there are several stories saying it was offered and it was killed by allen . i have posted them quite a bit
 

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Is that also Kirk percentage also 369
 

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2017 NFL season · End date

Feb 04, 2018


I will ask a simple question...

If this is in fact the 2017 off season, why does every date for every NFL event in the offseason for 2017, not match the dates for this years

Tag date and dead line
Free Agency Start
Draft


NOw there are only two possible answers to this question

Sty is wrong on this one

No one else in the world realises they have it backwards.
 

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I hadn't looked into it, but maybe he said that after he knew the deal was going to happen. he's a smart guy and smart guys say the rigtnthings.
If you had read the original post you would know that at the very least that wasn't the spirit of what D hall was implying but I agree that Smith would never say in public the downsides of him being traded to dc, notably the fact that it ensures he will retire ringless. He's a class act and even though he may have limitations as a player I am sure they will be happy with how he handles himself no matter what happens.
 

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If Bruce is 369 what is kirks???
 
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