Sixers Talk - The trade that wasn't

[Gman]

Interesting article... I wanted to get the fan opinion around here:

Report: Celtics' mystery trade target was Sixers' Jahlil Okafor

The skinny:

- Celtics were willing to give up their coveted rights to the Brooklyn 1st round draft pick this year
- The 76ers pulled out of the deal at the last moment

Brooklyn currently has the 4th worst record in the NBA.

Thoughts?

 

[Gman]

Could be the case that the C's would have been able to sweeten such a deal... by, let's say, adding a Jared Sullinger (who would have been expendable with Okafor going to Boston).

 

[Davis_Mike]

If I was Philly, I would not do that trade. I know he has become a headache at times, but I wouldn't trade him unless there was an overwhelming trade package offered. They should have tried to trade Noel for a young jump-shooting stretch-four.

 

[SixthStreet]

This is unjustifiable for both teams. There is only a 17% chance that the pick will be 1 or 2.

The first pick is more valuable than Okafor by a good margin (Simmons), the second pick is equal to Okafor (Ingram), and Okafor is much more valuable than any pick after that (which it's 83% to be). So it's a loser trade for the Sixers.

And for the Celtics, if they ended up trading Simmons for Okafor, as unlikely as it is today, will look horrendous and will be a black mark that will hover over the franchise for a long time.

What I think will happen is a deal will get consummated if the Celtics end up in the 2 spot after the lottery. Okafor for Ingram on draft day, with maybe some spare parts exchanged, seems about fair.

 

[old duke]

This is unjustifiable for both teams. There is only a 17% chance that the pick will be 1 or 2.

The first pick is more valuable than Okafor by a good margin (Simmons), the second pick is equal to Okafor (Ingram), and Okafor is much more valuable than any pick after that (which it's 83% to be). So it's a loser trade for the Sixers.

And for the Celtics, if they ended up trading Simmons for Okafor, as unlikely as it is today, will look horrendous and will be a black mark that will hover over the franchise for a long time.

What I think will happen is a deal will get consummated if the Celtics end up in the 2 spot after the lottery. Okafor for Ingram on draft day, with maybe some spare parts exchanged, seems about fair.

I agree. And if the Celts want Okafor that bad, add a 1st unprotected for next year. Otherwise - no thanks. Okafor is a star and more talented than Noel, and Embiid might never play a full season. Pass!

 

[L.Freamon]

no to the trade. I'm not trading anyone until i see what Embiid can do. Point blank period.

 

[NDIrishGuy]

I would have done the deal in a heartbeat. Okafor is the definition of an empty stat guy. He has the worst real plus/minus in the league because he doesn't make any teammate better on offense, doesn't rebound at a useful rate for his height, and plays some of the worst big man defense in the NBA. I would absolutely rather foster Nerlens' talent over Okafor's.

 

[old duke]

I would have done the deal in a heartbeat. Okafor is the definition of an empty stat guy. He has the worst real plus/minus in the league because he doesn't make any teammate better on offense, doesn't rebound at a useful rate for his height, and plays some of the worst big man defense in the NBA. I would absolutely rather foster Nerlens' talent over Okafor's.

He's a rookie! The draft picks are "prospects". No telling how they'll do. Okafor can play in this league.

 

[SoShady]

Seems like it breaks down like this. The 76ers fans would only do it if it ended up being the #1 or #2 pick plus. The Celtics fans wouldn't do it if it was the #1 or #2 picks. Can't fault Ainge for trying but no way the 76ers were going to accept that offer. This isn't the first time Ainge has mouthed off after a failed trade. Sour grapes or w/e it is he's a joke.

 

[WIZ]

Embiid has screwed up this whole ridiculous tanking shit. It's frustrating at this point to watch it potentially crumble over five years.

 

[Screamin Eagle]

Bad deal......would not have done it. The Hinkie plan is about to take off, no way I would cut bait this far into a program to rebuild this team for the long haul.

 

[old duke]

Word now is that Ainge thought they had a deal, but Hinkie pulled out - probably Colangelo veto'ed it. Sam likes to collect his "assets".

 

[eaglesnut]

Ainge is full of shit. Also he wants some credit for identifying Okafor as a legit player.