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newsome may be up and down at times..this year..but i think..he will be in the mariners bull pen...for a while..may even ..start a few..
even though he profiles..as relief

 

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mariners starters..and..top miners starters
Marco Gonzales 7.........L/L
Justin Dunn 35
Justus Sheffield 33.......L/L
Yusei Kikuchi 18.............L/L..he will have to ...show me.....he belongs in the rotation..before i will think...he is not a bull pen guy..which..there is time to do that...so...ok
Nick Margevicius 52.......L/L

at tacoma
Cody Anderson60.........anytime..he is doing well...he could ...be at mariners...start..or relief

Logan Gilbert................could be at mariners..sometime..this year George Kirby..................hard to say..but..he is goood Brandon Williamson.......L/L.......also..really good..they took a chance on him when..he was injured......and it may pay off Isaiah Campbell...............we have not really seen him yet...but he will be a factor Sam Carlson......................we have not seen sam either...but he is ready now Juan Then 43.....................he could be as far away..as sam...but he is too good to let go Emerson Hancock56...........we are ready...too see him Taylor Dollard P​ mariners..like...dollard...a lot..5th round pick​ these are just the best..of the mariners..pitching...they have..a lot..i mean a lot.....of other good pitchers

 

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lol..this would work..for me....everyone would seem happy
jt GINN..is a good prospect
mariners could work with..familia
idk..on valdez..but seems like a normal trade
send 5 mil..no prob

MARINERS GET
RHRP JEURYS FAMILIA
RHP JT GINN
OF FREDDY VALDEZ

what mets get.....goooood defence..as a team
decent..LH..bat

METS GET
3B KYLE SEAGER
$5,000,000
If Kyle Seager is traded his 2022 team option becomes a player option. So to make his $33 million in salary over the next two years work for New York, Seattle sends over $5 million to help with Seager’s contract and takes on the contract of Jeurys Familia.

While Familia has one year left on his contract and would be owed about $13-14 million by the Mariners, he would actually be of use to Seattle. Jerry Dipoto has been saying that the Mariners are still looking to add another reliever and Familia can be that one last guy.

Familia was one of the best closers in the game in 2014 and 2015, but he has fallen off recently due to having one of the league’s worst walk rates. Familia had a 3.71 ERA last year and still has his stuff, so if the Mariners could get his walk rate down Familia could be a key piece in the bullpen this year.

what is in it ..for seager...a chance to go to the playoff'.s......now...before......... he gets to old
and play in new york...not totally..bad..for selling jerseys

 

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i usually dont agree with...FanSided............but this time...i do..i try to give credit where credit is do...good one...willie keeler

Seattle Mariners: What would a Kyle Seager Mets trade look like?


by Willie Keeler6 days ago Follow @wtkeeler24

There is a rumor that the Seattle Mariners and the Mets have talked about a trade for Kyle Seager. What would a trade for Seager look like?​

After trading for Francisco Lindor the New York Mets, with who the Seattle Mariners are familiar trade partners, are clearly going for it this year. Now there is another rumor that shows they are trying to build a World Series caliber roster as Michael Mayer of Metsmerized tweeted this.


While it is not a confirmation that they have had serious discussions, it shows that the Mets are another potential suitor if the Mariners wanted to move Kyle Seager. So what would a trade look like if the Mets and Mariners did indeed agree to send Seager to New York City? I was not too sure how it would work when I first saw the rumor but there is actually a great trade for both sides that is not a “Dump of Seager’s salary” type of trade.
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Justin Toscano
MLB Writer





For the second straight year, the Mets signed a first-round talent they selected later than the first round in the MLB Draft.
The organization on Monday signed second-round pick J.T. Ginn, a source confirmed (Newsday's Tim Healey first reported this). The signing bonus, a source confirms, is $2.9 million, which is much larger than the $1,403,200 slot value for the No. 52 pick the club used on the right-handed pitcher.
“He’s got all the qualities of being a top-of-the-rotation guy," Tommy Tanous, the Mets' senior adviser of amateur scouting, said hours after the club selected Ginn.
Ginn, a draft-eligible sophomore from Mississippi State, fell in the draft because he underwent Tommy John surgery this spring. But he commanded a much larger price than his pick's value for a few reasons.

NY Mets draft picks:Complete analysis of the 2020 MLB Draft selections
First, he had college eligibility left. He could've returned to school if his price had not been met.
Two years ago, the Dodgers drafted Ginn in the first round but he did not sign, which surprised many. As a Mississippi State freshman, Ginn pitched to a 3.13 ERA with over 100 strikeouts. Perfect Game named Ginn its National Freshman of the Year.

"We’ve liked Ginn for years now, we really have," Tanous said. "We had strong interest in him in high school, he got picked in front of us. This is a rare combination of turbo sink with strikeout ability. He’s anywhere from 91 to 99 (mph), it’s an out-pitch curveball, an at-will curveball that he throws for strikes, and it's a plus changeup. It’s a super athletic kid."

Added Marc Tramuta, the team's director of amateur scouting: “He pitches with a mean streak. He’s an athlete. You look on our major-league staff, we’ve got power pitchers. This fits right into that mold, and we’re very excited to get him."
Ginn must now continue his recovery from Tommy John surgery. It's not a simple road, but the Mets do have others who have traveled that same path.
Current starters Jacob deGrom and Steven Matz did. Former starters Zack Wheeler and Matt Harvey did, too. They are confident Ginn will succeed.
First round:A look inside NY Mets first-round pick Pete Crow-Armstrong, from those who know him best
Ginn seemed comparable to Matthew Allan, the Mets' third-round pick last year. Allan, also a righty, had first-round talent but fell on draft night because teams were worried he wouldn't sign.
Around Allan, the Mets took college seniors — who usually require less money to sign because they don't feature the leverage of being able to go back to school. They saved money, then signed Allan.

They did the same with Ginn. With the exception of Ginn and first-round pick Pete Crow-Armstrong, the Mets signed all of their picks for under slot value. They even signed two of them for only $20,000, which is the equivalent of the max signing bonus for an undrafted free agent this year.
"We recognize that he’s a premium talent, and premium talent is going to require real investment in terms of dollars," Mets general manager Brodie Van Wagenen said on the night the team drafted Ginn. "Our hope and our belief is that his talent and his expectation for the value of his talent will match up to our interest in rewarding him for that talent with a premium signing bonus."
Once again, the Mets worked out a deal.
Another elite pitching prospect enters their farm system.
Justin Toscano is the Mets beat writer for NorthJersey.com. For unlimited access to all Mets analysis, news, trades and more, please subscribe today and download our app.
Email: [email protected] Twitter: @justinctoscano

 

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Mariners have yet to confirm, Baseball America reports Seattle has signed nine players, two of which fall in the publication’s top 50 rankings. Starlin Aguilar, a shortstop/third baseman who turns 17 later this month,
comes in at No. 24 with BA liking his left-handed swing and potential for power.
Of note on Aguilar, he has trained in the Domincan Republic with the trainer whose program produced Red Sox third baseman Rafael Devers and Tampa Bay’s Wander Franco, baseball’s No. 1 overall prospect.

Gabriel Gonzales, an outfielder out of Venezuela, is the other Mariners signing in the top 50 – he lands at No. 30. According to BA, the 17 year old “has a good track record of hitting and hitting for power against live pitching, with an aggressive approach and swing that might ultimately lead to a power-over-hit profile.”



FROM MY POINT OF VIEW ...THESE GUYS WOULD BE ON THE SAME......... TIMELINE...............as any high school guys drafted by the mariners

 

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so far ....confirmation..

starlin aguilar.........L/R....3B...........rated in top 50.that is good
gabriel gonzales...............OF,,,,,,,,,,also top 50
LHP Juan Pinto
Pinto, also from Venezuela, was the last of the players the Mariners have signed so far to earn a mention in Sánchez’s international round-up. Pinto, helpfully, has a robust Instagram presence, so you can follow him and see video of him throwing, like in this recent video where he’s hitting 88-90 (and if that doesn’t sound impressive, remember he is all of 16). He has a prototypical pitcher’s body at 6’3” that appears to be a solid 85% legs, and gets down the mound in a way that suggests more velocity to come after he’s had a pro training regimen and bulked up some. His second-best pitch, per Baseball America, is a tight curve that projects as an out pitch. A lefty with a power curve? Sign me right up. Also, I don’t know who does his graphics, but they are icy (that’s him in the cover photo of this story).
OF Luis Bolivar

Bolivar, also from Venezuela, projects to give Jonatan Clase some competition for the title of “best speed” in the organization, with some scouts putting an 80 on it, although at already six feet tall, he’s built differently than the shorter, powerful Clase. Bolivar has an above-average arm and projects as a true center fielder. The hit tool isn’t as developed as some of the other players in this class, but you can see how he swings for damage from the right side in the video above. “El Boli” is active on Instagram, and you can follow him here.
RHP Aneury Lora
Lora is going to be a really interesting one to look at side-by-side after a couple years of development because he’s currently listed at just 6’1”/145 with a pair of chopsticks for legs, but the frame (especially a pair of feet that look almost cartoonishly outsize to the rest of him) suggests the ability to add good muscle and he’s certainly not done growing. Per Baseball America he has a promising curve and changeup even as his fastball lacks much oomph currently and repeats his delivery well, although I see a lot of moving parts, as is to be expected with a young prospect who maybe hasn’t had some of the same intense training as his counterparts. He’s active on Instagram and you can follow him here.
The Mariners are also projected to sign two Venezuelan right-handed pitchers, Roiber Talavera and Gleiner Díaz. I couldn’t find either of them on Instagram (although if you know their handles, drop them in the comments), but Baseball America has a brief scouting report on each and some film of them pitching.
Note: OF Victor Labrada, a Cuban signee-to-be last year, has been with the club at their facility in the DR for the better part of this past year, but wasn’t able to sign in the normal J2 period due to the pandemic. He’ll finally ink his $350K deal with the club in this signing period.
Update: According to Baseball America’s tracker, the Mariners have also signed SS Bryant Mendez out of Venezuela. I haven’t been able to turn up anything on Mendez, but will keep an eye out.

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DSL Mariners Roster​

Managers & Coaches (click column headers to sort)​

#	Name	Pos	Bat	Thw	Ht	Wt	DOB	Status
	Austin Knight	Manager			6' 1"	165	08-19-1987	Active
	David Flores	Hitting Coach	R	R	6' 2"	220	10-13-1986	Active
	Luis Caballero	Coach	R	R	6' 0"	185	07-08-1992	Active
	Jose Amancio	Pitching Coach	R	R	6' 3"	175	08-16-1981	Active

Pitchers (click column headers to sort)​

#	Name	Pos	Bat	Thw	Ht	Wt	DOB	Status	MLB 40-man
37	Jose Aquino	P	L	L	6' 3"	175	06-27-2002	Active	No
11	Luis Baez	P	R	R	6' 3"	165	02-06-2001	Active	No
45	Lisander Brito	P	R	R	6' 3"	175	07-09-2002	Active	No
22	Juan Burgos	P	R	R	6' 0"	155	12-22-1999	Active	No
	Julio Dilone	P	L	R	6' 1"	196	03-23-2000	Active	No
	Natanael Garabitos	P	R	R	6' 0"	185	08-04-2000	Active	No
20	Joseph Hernandez	P	R	R	5' 11"	150	06-15-2000	Active	No
9	Abdiel Medina	P	R	R	5' 11"	155	01-20-2002	Active	No
6	Eliezer Mejia	P	L	L	6' 2"	160	09-13-2000	Restricted	No
21	Harold Melenge	P	L	L	5' 10"	170	01-15-2002	Active	No
	David Morillo	P	R	R	6' 2"	168	09-26-2001	Active	No
	Anyelo Ovando	P	R	R	6' 5"	222	12-25-2000	Active	No
28	Gabriel Sosa	P	R	R	6' 2"	182	04-17-2001	Active

#	Name	Pos	Bat	Thw	Ht	Wt	DOB	Status	MLB 40-man
5	Jose Caguana	C	R	R	5' 10"	175	04-05-2002	Active	No

Infielders (click column headers to sort)​

#	Name	Pos	Bat	Thw	Ht	Wt	DOB	Status	MLB 40-man
3	Asdrubal Bueno	SS	R	R	5' 11"	170	11-25-2001	Active	No
23	Luis Chevalier	IF	S	R	5' 11"	160	01-18-2002	Active	No
29	Carlos Fernandez	SS	R	R	6' 0"	160	09-18-2001	Active	No

starlin aguilar....................................3B​

bryant mendez.................................ss​

tfielders (click column headers to sort)​

#	Name	Pos	Bat	Thw	Ht	Wt	DOB	Status	MLB 40-man
13	Gabe Moncada	OF	L	L	6' 2"	175	12-17-2001	Active	No
	Andy Sosa	OF	R	R	6' 2"	175	02-13-2003	Active	No

gabriel gonzales.........................................of
luis bolivar.....................................................of
victor labrada...........................................Of...........cuba


as we can see...this fills up ..the dsl...but they do need....one more catcher......and a maybe at 1B

Read more: DSL Mariners Team Roster | MiLB.com Roster | The Official Site of Minor League Baseball

 

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going back to the other end of the ..mariners miners...over january..tacoma has been filed up as well..

.but arkansas does not have a full roster
i expect many move ups..from modesto..as far as pitching..and a few..position players
with..no more rookie league...they almost have to do it

Roster.arkansas

outfield..would be no prob..with

Julio Y. Rodriguez...moving on...........uuuuuuuuuppp Jarred Kelenic16............L/L Connor Lien93 then..a few possibles..such as Taylor Trammell 20...........L/L Dillon Thomas71........L/L.....j.ust signed in jan.to miner league conract.but .rostered..at tacoma.for now

 

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pitching.........mayb ready to go to arkansas

they really need to see if
Juan Then 43............can handle .AA..that would solve the anomaly..a bit.....if he could

Scott Boches............if not now.then when David Ellingson..same as boches Adam Hill................he is ready for a shot.at AA.and they need him there Benjamin Onyshko.........i would have no prob..moving ben up they have a..lot ..of good pitchers..at what will be everett...but is modesto..nowModesto Nuts Team Roster | Modesto Nuts Roster

 

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i was having a prob with....catchers cuz

Carter Bins92

R/R

6' 0"

200

10/07/1998

Active

No

would have been the only catcher at modesto..which will be low A
but...these guys will be there as well
from aqua sox...rookie

#	Name	Pos	Bat	Thw	Ht	Wt	DOB	Status	MLB 40-man
	Ty Duvall	C	L	R	5' 11"	200	07-11-1997	Active	No
	Matt Scheffler	C	R	R	6' 2"	190	02-06-1998	Active	No

so a HS..catcher..in the draft..would be ok.which is what..im really getting at
and loading the future..2.. drafts after this one...by taking...HS..guys...in this up coming draft

 

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of..that will be at..everett(which is modesto now)

#	Name	Pos	Bat	Thw	Ht	Wt	DOB	Status	MLB 40-man
13	Jack Larsen	RF	L	L	6' 1"	195	01-13-1995	Active	No
14	Keegan McGovern	LF	L	R	6' 3"	200	09-13-1995	Active	No
	Julio Y. Rodriguez	RF	R	R	6' 3"	180	12-29-2000	Active	No

julio..prob moving up...leaves at least two spots open..at high A

guys from west virgina..power..or LOW A..that can be moved up..to high A

Cade Marlowe......LF...L/R
Trent Tingelstad...RF....L/R

guys at aqua...rookie..that can be moved up..to low A..(which will be modesto)
Zach DeLoach..........CF
Miguel Perez............CF

seems they need at least 2 more outfield guys.even before the draft
maybe a few AZL guys can fill in

#	Name	Pos	Bat	Thw	Ht	Wt	DOB	Status	MLB 40-man
	Jonatan Clase	OF	L	R	5' 8"	150	05-23-2002	Active	No
	Arturo Guerrero	CF	R	R	6' 3"	165	09-21-2000	Active	No
	Gunn Omosako	RF	R	R	6' 4"	190	05-12-2001	Active	No
	Alberto Rodriguez	OF	L	L	5' 11"	180	10-06-2000	Active	No

or they could use a trade..to fill those..spots...or at least one of them
Read more: AZL Mariners Team Roster | MiLB.com Roster | The Official Site of Minor League Baseball

 

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this guy has a passion..for baseball..that makes me like on him...yeah he is a mets fan..but with joey lucchesi (a guy i have scouted..in the past
)going there....i maybe as well...3 team trade


san diego is really going for it
what we may see from he mariners in a couple years..but not as much...the mariners have a lot of what they need already

 

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im not all that worried about the mariners..position players...i think they will be there ready..when he pitching finally arrives

with a possible rotation..of

George Kirby................gilbert..maybe here...if not..then kirby Marco Gonzales 7..........L/L...marco wont be going anywhere..he went to gonzaga...he likes it here and we like him..so Logan Gilbert86 Justus Sheffield 33..........lL/L Emerson Hancock56......................im not saying emerson will be here in 2 years..im not saying he wont either...but it looks good for effect..lol Brandon Williamson..........L/L and maybe a hhhummmmina huuumina............crystal ball.....lololol

 

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crystal ball is a bit foggy..but..i would still take tjajuan walker..for anywhere from..1 to 3 years deal..and going with a 6 man rotation..it would work
with gilbert still coming up
gonzales..L/L
walker
sheffield..L/L
dunn
Yusei Kikuchi 18...orNick Margevicius 52...the other guy..out of the bull pen..where i need a LHP..anyway..does not really matter which..one...for now
gilbert

6 man rotation..as they say..it will be

 

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my crystal ball..was clouded..it was really chris flexen.............LOLOLOL
it could go

gonzales........L/L
dunn
sheffield..........L/L
flexen
kikuchi...or .Nick Margevicius 52........L/L
gilbert

 

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while im not worried about..the mariners..position players...with kelenic..on his way..taylor trammel..on his way..as well..and we all..love J rod on his way as well..they all could be at least at tacoma in 2022..most likly..if kelenic hits his way..to mlb..he will be there..same for..trammel..that should take care of LF..and the #4th outfielder............and there is still

Eric Filia.........L/L...RF/DH/!B.......eric is on a minor league contract at this point..but..should be behind..José Marmolejos 26..on the depth chart anytime..marmo..is doing..bad..and eric..is hitting...320....i expect him to be put on the 40 man this year but while...they are going though...some bull pen guys right now..is not the time basily...mariners already...have..who they need........for now.......going forward

next Question
with seager at 3B..france will have to DH and first base A lot...no doubt seager..can come off the bench..on defence..if france is in at 3B
or if the right pitcher is pitching...which..seager smashes..some pitchers...(rangers ...hate that...lol)...

mariners..do not really need ..to trade seager...just play the situations ...right.......and his numbers..will look..even better

double swithes..can happen a lot...to get the right players in at the right..time for the mariners..with the 3B..situation..put seager in..france just goes..to DH..or !B
same as dylan.moore...playing 2B...but they may need him in..LF...So put in.....long.or haggerty

that...is my eval.....on mariners position players.....until...we can see how it plays...till the trade deadline

mariners rotation

Marco Gonzales 7.......L/L...marco..will be a marner.for years to come
Justin Dunn 35...............dunn should be able to handle this spot at this point......going forward
Justus Sheffield 33.........L/L.....i feel this is the spot....for sheffield.we will see
Chris Flexen 77...............flexen.is in an eval.to stay in the rotation.or he will go to the bull pen....same with Ljay Newsome 74..or Ljay..could be sent to tacoma as well
Yusei Kikuchi 18........L/L....or....Nick Margevicius 52...who ever..of these guys..that does not make the rotation...should be out of the bull pen...if not to start..with out of..spring training..then maybe later Anthony Misiewicz 38..could also..be in..this depth..but will prob be at tacoma

Logan Gilbert86...........if he has good enough numbers..out of spring training.he should be here....if not then tacoma....there is no time to keep
him at arkansas...if he is at tacoma..anytime he is doeing well there...he could start as the #6 rotation guy..if he goes to tacoma
then prob....Nick Margevicius 52...or see #5th starter..depth

that said.......they do not want to put ..any extra..guys..on the..40 man until..they can work there bull pen into a bit of a better situation
so i think..although
they need.....Logan Gilbert86...at mlb it wont happen till.they have some evaluation..on some bull pen guys
same asEric Filia72..as far as a 40 man roster spot goes........

most likely..they will have to wait tell a roster spot opens up..
..mariners.will be evaluating bull pen guys.as they go..along.so i wont do an eval..on bull pen guys.

..any trades.are likely.to involve.bull pen guys through and including the trade deadline

this seems to be where to mariners are...for now
so let spring training begin

and i am paying attention..to the mlb draft..now that..they have gotten international guys..that will be at DSL(they still need a catcher..there)
so far..i know they need a couple out field guys.at lower lvls.im hopping...they will get a HS catcher.with#2 OR #3...pickes in the draft
i have a fav..yes..but i will not say ..at this time

good luck everyone...that is what i have .......for now

 

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one more thing..the mariners..defence..is goooo---oood..and with better pitching..will only get better
J.P. Crawford 3..gold glove
Evan White 12.....gold glove
Kyle Lewis 1.........rookie of the year.i think kyle..is capable...of getting a gold glove.in CF
Kyle Seager 15..its been a while sense...kyle..won a gold glove.he is still good on defence
Mitch Haniger 17....is good on defence..i dont think..he won a gold glove....but he is good
2b..we will see
LF...we will see
catcher...we will see

they are working on the pitching this..year..first and foremost

with all hopes...of getting...to the playoffs...and even the world series

with the defence..being good..they may not have to score as many..runs..but ya still want to score..4 or better runs...per game..for the winnnn