NBA Draft Semi-Final Game 2

[Nosferatu]

Please vote for which team you think is better.

Every player drafted is to be looked at like they are in their prime today!

TEAM D

STARTERS
PG - Tony Parker
SG - James Harden
SF - Paul George
PF - Tim Duncan
C - DeMarcus Cousins

BENCH
PG - Kyrie Irving
PG/SG - Jose Calderon
SG - DeMar DeRozan
SG/SF - Wilson Chandler
SF - Rudy Gay
SF - Richard Jefferson
PF/C - Al Jefferson
PF/C - Marcin Gortat

OR

TEAM E

STARTERS
PG - Russell Westbrook
SG - Jason Richardson
SF - Kawhi Leonard
PF - Kevin Garnett
C. - Joakim Noah

BENCH
PG - Andre Miller
SG - Jamal Crawford
SF - Danny Granger
PF - Paul Millsap
C. - Chris Kaman
PF/C - Lamar Odom
SF/PF - Tayshaun Prince
SG - Danny Green

 

[wlk3]

Meet the starters...

Russell Westbrook:
Prime Season 2012-13 - 23.2ppg 5.2rebs 7.4asts 1.8stls 0.3blks
3× NBA All-Star (2011–2013)
3× All-NBA Second Team (2011–2013)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (2009)

Jason Richardson:
Prime Season 2005-06 - 23.2ppg 5.8rebs 3.1asts 1.3stls .5blks
2× NBA Slam Dunk Contest champion (2002–2003)
NBA Rookie Challenge MVP (2003)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (2002)

Kawhi Leonard:
Prime Season 2012-13 - 12.8ppg 6.2rebs 2.0ast 1.7stls 0.8blks
NBA champion (2014)
NBA Finals MVP (2014)
NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2014)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (2012)

Kevin Garnett:
Prime Season 2003-04 - 24.2ppg 13.9rebs 5asts 1.5stls 2.2blks
NBA champion (2008)
NBA Most Valuable Player (2004)
15× NBA All-Star (1997–1998, 2000–2011, 2013)
NBA All-Star Game MVP (2003)
4× All-NBA First Team (2000, 2003–2004, 2008)
3× All-NBA Second Team (2001–2002, 2005)
2× All-NBA Third Team (1999, 2007)
NBA Defensive Player of the Year (2008)
9× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2000–2005, 2008–2009, 2011)
3× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2006–2007, 2012)
NBA All-Rookie Second Team (1996)
4× NBA rebounding champion (2004–2007)
Minnesota Timberwolves all-time leading scorer

Joakim Noah:
Prime Season 2013-14 - 12.6ppg 11.3rebs 5.4asts 1.2stls 1.5blks
2× NBA All-Star (2013–2014)
All-NBA First Team (2014)
NBA Defensive Player of the Year (2014)
2× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2013–2014)
NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2011)

 

[wlk3]

As you can see, my starters average 39rebs a game alone... I'll post the bench some other time... I know many like to go in line player for player on your votes, but I ask you to look at how teams are built in terms of strength and weakness as well... Offensive meshing and ball movement, as well as defense and rebounding...

 

[Ritzarmy]

Edit: don't want someone to lose and blame me for my post

 

[Ritzarmy]

Please vote on all 3 match ups. Thanks for voting everyone.

 

[Clayton]

For the most part, Tony Parker is still Tony Parker whenever he plays OKC for the past couple of years.

Both starting lineups look really even but I do think Cousins could give Noah issues. I am also biased towards Duncan in his prime over KG but thats pretty highly debatable.

 

[Nosferatu]

D has a better starting 5 and D wins on bench pretty easily IMO... I like E's team but this one should not be this close...

 

[broncosmitty]

Duncan Vs Garnett is what Im seeing in this one.

 

[Logicallylethal]

I had Team D rated as the best team in my rankings


Looking at the match ups there are a few that stand out

Tim Duncan vs Kevin Garnett is pretty much equal. If you look up their career head to heads both player's numbers are nearly identical as well

Paul George vs Kawhi Leonard. George owns Leonard in his career. George averages 19 ppg shooting 53 % head to head while Leonard only averages 11.

Cousins also holds up pretty well against Noah. 17.7 ppg 11 reb shooting 45 %. Noah's defense causes the slightly lower shooting percentage, but as "good" as Noah is defensively you have to admit his DPOY is nowhere near the DPOY of a Camby, Duncan, KG, Mutombo, Hakeem, etc.

Parker vs Westbrook is a good one too. Westbrook struggles head to head against Parker shooting only 38 % from the field while only scoring 18 ppg. Parker is 17-6 shooting 46 %.

Harden vs Jrich. Basically a tie.


Bench I give the edge to Team D.

 

[Clayton]

I had Team D rated as the best team in my rankings


Looking at the match ups there are a few that stand out

Tim Duncan vs Kevin Garnett is pretty much equal. If you look up their career head to heads both player's numbers are nearly identical as well

Paul George vs Kawhi Leonard. George owns Leonard in his career. George averages 19 ppg shooting 53 % head to head while Leonard only averages 11.

Cousins also holds up pretty well against Noah. 17.7 ppg 11 reb shooting 45 %. Noah's defense causes the slightly lower shooting percentage, but as "good" as Noah is defensively you have to admit his DPOY is nowhere near the DPOY of a Camby, Duncan, KG, Mutombo, Hakeem, etc.

Parker vs Westbrook is a good one too. Westbrook struggles head to head against Parker shooting only 38 % from the field while only scoring 18 ppg. Parker is 17-6 shooting 46 %.

Harden vs Jrich. Basically a tie.


Bench I give the edge to Team D.

This is pretty much how I see things, too. Noah is a good defender but struggles against physical players. A prime Shaq, for example, would annihilate him. Cousins would do just enough to where he would at least draw even and he'd probably win the match to a certain extent.

 

[cwalke3408]

Noah > Cousins

In the 7 games they played against each other

Noah: 16ppg .522FG% 8.1rpg 3.3ast 2.7 blk 1.7tov
Cousins: 17ppg .448FG% 11.1rpg 1.9ast 1.1 blk 4.9tov

 

[Ritzarmy]

Damn this is another game that will come down to the final votes.

 

[Clayton]

Noah > Cousins

In the 7 games they played against each other

Noah: 16ppg .522FG% 8.1rpg 3.3ast 2.7 blk 1.7tov
Cousins: 17ppg .448FG% 11.1rpg 1.9ast 1.1 blk 4.9tov

Cousins overall was notably better last year than in his previous years. Its actually hard to get a read on him because there isnt much of a sample size of him being good

 

[Nosferatu]

Somebody is lying... lolzzz


Team D finished 2nd in the rankings and Team E finished last... hmmmm

 

[cwalke3408]

This is pretty much how I see things, too. Noah is a good defender but struggles against physical players. A prime Shaq, for example, would annihilate him. Cousins would do just enough to where he would at least draw even and he'd probably win the match to a certain extent.

Not many centers would be able to stop Shaq. What Noah lack in size, he makes up with quickness and is a great pick and roll defender because of it. With the way the league is today, the quickness is more valuable than the size when playing defense because they're not too many big centers that is great at the post.

 

[Clayton]

With the way the league is today, the quickness is more valuable than the size when playing defense because they're not too many big centers that is great at the post.

I think thats why the Wizards/Bulls playoff series caught everyone off guard. When Noah can matchup with someone, he makes his team a lot better. The Nets intentionally dodged the Bulls, IIRC

 

[Ritzarmy]

I think thats why the Wizards/Bulls playoff series caught everyone off guard. When Noah can matchup with someone, he makes his team a lot better. The Nets intentionally dodged the Bulls, IIRC

Who won that series with the Bulls/Wizards? Duh Bullets!!! KD to Washington in 2016 coming back home.

 

[wlk3]

I had Team D rated as the best team in my rankings


Looking at the match ups there are a few that stand out

Tim Duncan vs Kevin Garnett is pretty much equal. If you look up their career head to heads both player's numbers are nearly identical as well

Paul George vs Kawhi Leonard. George owns Leonard in his career. George averages 19 ppg shooting 53 % head to head while Leonard only averages 11.

Cousins also holds up pretty well against Noah. 17.7 ppg 11 reb shooting 45 %. Noah's defense causes the slightly lower shooting percentage, but as "good" as Noah is defensively you have to admit his DPOY is nowhere near the DPOY of a Camby, Duncan, KG, Mutombo, Hakeem, etc.

Parker vs Westbrook is a good one too. Westbrook struggles head to head against Parker shooting only 38 % from the field while only scoring 18 ppg. Parker is 17-6 shooting 46 %.

Harden vs Jrich. Basically a tie.


Bench I give the edge to Team D.

Ha... Surprise surprise... If you can't beat em... Join somebody who can...

 

[Nosferatu]

As you can see, my starters average 39rebs a game alone... I'll post the bench some other time... I know many like to go in line player for player on your votes, but I ask you to look at how teams are built in terms of strength and weakness as well... Offensive meshing and ball movement, as well as defense and rebounding...

You have a great team but you should probably hold off on talking about the benches, D has a much better bench...

 

[Ritzarmy]

Voting will close tomorrow (Monday) at noon. In case of a tie score the winner will be decided by who ever had the higher ranking (lower of the score).