Houston Astros vs. Texas Rangers 7/5

[romeo212000]

I saw that. Rather try for Lee and Garza first then fall back on Peavy. Is Rios any good? We do need another hitter.

I'd want Garza before peavey. No question.

 

[Justinkm83]

I am just not a fan of rios. He's been scuffling lately sporting just a .643 OPS in July. He's getting on base at a serviceable .324 clip and wRC+ 103 this season. I realize he would be an upgrade from murph, but what would it cost? Frankly, I'm not certain we wouldn't be better with an OF of Martin, Beltre, Cruz. Unfortunately, for that to take place somebody besides wash is going to have to write the lineup card.

As far as peavy, is he really much of an upgrade? He's a fly ball pitcher who is on the wrong side of 30. There's some indication he's had a little bad luck because his babip is sitting at .293 this year, but he's also giving up 1.39hr/9. His k/9 looks good. So I suppose he could be a decent pick up provided you're not expecting him to be more than a #3-4 pitcher, and we do not have to give up too much to get him.

I do like Rios, and we need a right handed bat, but I'm not that interested in Peavy either. Like I said...I was just telling you guys what I read.

 

[Jimbo2017]

Picking up Rios would satisfy a desperate need for a right handed bat in this lineup; as long as the price is right. They can keep Peavey.

 

[romeo212000]

I like Schierholtz also. I was the first one to bring him up on the other site a few weeks back. I think Rios is a better fit though.

I've cooled on Schierholtz a little after looking at his splits. I'm not convinced he's anything more than a platoon player. Would he be an upgrade over Murphy? Yes, but at what cost. I'm much more interested in cuddyer. He would be a good player this year and a good stop gap for next. Colorado might not need much for him and he could slot into the fifth spot nicely.

 

[jta4437]

I think Rios would be a great addition. He's a tall, athletic, right handed bat w/ power. He can play any of the OF spots, and would fit very nicely into the 5th or 6th spot in the order. I would also like Garza or Lee, but I think Lee will cost too many prospects. I was just reporting what I read.

His days in CF are pretty well numbered he's essentially a COF now, plus we have Martin now

He's owed about 18-20 million over the next 1.5 years, if they are playing for this year, which there is no guarantee that they are yet, then he's the guy that I think they should get,

He also gives them a presence in the OF for next year, when both Cruz (along with his suspension issues) and Murphy will be FAs, leaving Martin, Gentry and Beltre as the only other under control OF options currently available, as most of the OF minor league talent is in the low minors

He's expensive but certainly a above average player that puts up solid numbers as long as he doesn't fall into another one of abysmal seasons he's been known to have, I don't think the prospect cost will be high as the ChiSox are essentially looking to dump salary and rebuild at this point

Peavy is just incapable of staying healthy, no interest whatsoever

 

[bone3421]

i could have sworn we had a thread for this trade talk stuff...............

 

[romeo212000]

Picking up Rios would satisfy a desperate need for a right handed bat in this lineup; as long as the price is right. They can keep Peavey.

So what happens if they acquire rios? $100 says wash platoons him with Murphy. Then what happens to baker when he's healthy?

 

[romeo212000]

i could have sworn we had a thread for this trade talk stuff...............

If you were a mod still you could move it.

 

[jta4437]

Cuddyer had some solid seasons in Minnesota, but he's putting up a career year at 34 in Colorado, only bonus Cuddyer provides is an ability to play 1B

 

[jta4437]

So what happens if they acquire rios? $100 says wash platoons him with Murphy. Then what happens to baker when he's healthy?

Baker does what he did before, UTIL player CIF and COF

Pretty much guarantee Murphy would be in that trade going the other way

 

[bone3421]

maybe murph will be in the rios package then we wont have to platoon him

 

[romeo212000]

Cuddyer had some solid seasons in Minnesota, but he's putting up a career year at 34 in Colorado, only bonus Cuddyer provides is an ability to play 1B

That my be more important than you think initially.

And cuddyer is blowing rios out of the water. He's sporting a wRC+ of 156, OPS of .984, and OBP of .394. Granted these are career year numbers but we'd only need him this year and next. We might as well acquire him for the run while he's white hot.

 

[romeo212000]

Baker does what he did before, UTIL player CIF and COF

Pretty much guarantee Murphy would be in that trade going the other way

I would hope so.

 

[jta4437]

That my be more important than you think initially.

And cuddyer is blowing rios out of the water. He's sporting a wRC+ of 156, OPS of .984, and OBP of .394. Granted these are career year numbers but we'd only need him this year and next. We might as well acquire him for the run while he's white hot.

I'm saying I don't trust his numbers

But in the end, it just depends on whats being asked for

 

[romeo212000]

I'm saying I don't trust his numbers

But in the end, it just depends on whats being asked for

Exactly right. I don't trust his numbers to hold up forever but if he can keep them going this year is be fine even if he regresses to the mean next year.

 

[jta4437]

Exactly right. I don't trust his numbers to hold up forever but if he can keep them going this year is be fine even if he regresses to the mean next year.

His OPS is already 100 points lower on the road, granted its still .903, but imagine what happens when he starts playing in places like Anaheim, Oakland and Seattle, pitchers parks on a regular basis

His numbers will regress the moment he leaves Coors, and we'll be paying the price of Coors inflated numbers

 

[jta4437]

But seriously we need a pitcher first and foremost, debating about the OFers out there is fine, but certainly secondary at this point

 

[romeo212000]

His OPS is already 100 points lower on the road, granted its still .903, but imagine what happens when he starts playing in places like Anaheim, Oakland and Seattle, pitchers parks on a regular basis

His numbers will regress the moment he leaves Coors, and we'll be paying the price of Coors inflated numbers

Yes but he'll still be playing plenty of games at rbia.

Then again, maybe rios would hit better in our lineup.

But seriously we need a pitcher first and foremost, debating about the OFers out there is fine, but certainly secondary at this point

First things first. Hopefully we can get garza. That's the only pitcher available I'm aware of who would improve our team enough to warrant giving anyone up unless there is a sleeper JD is working on.

 

[Bmurph]

Thanks for the report Justin, I like Rios ok I guess and I'm with you guys on Peavy. I would prefer Garza but I think we need to make something happen before the deadline if possible. We have had rough luck with the injuries this season again. All depend on the cost I guess.

 

[Bmurph]

But seriously we need a pitcher first and foremost, debating about the OFers out there is fine, but certainly secondary at this point

Absolutely