Castillo to the Mariners for 4 Prospects

[ulmax]

Andrew Moore.


i thought this was dylan......my bad......andi like the trade a bit moore.....know..but still......

need a ss..at A+...and modesto...sense guys from draft have not shown...yet

 

[ulmax]

Hogan Windish...at modesto Ben Ramirez 92..at aqua..can ss..for a minute..but 3b..is his deal..

 

[Podunkparte]

The whole thing is.
.the pitching...is diferent...and the umping as well...
As far as ..calling balls and strikes
And the zone...

So it takes getting used to..

Umpires have been interleague for over 20 years. That's not a thing anymore. Adam Frazier has simply been bad at his job. And players know pitchers in both leagues. They have every tool at hand to succeed. Some don't. We don't need to make up excuses for that. Just upgrade the position.

 

[ulmax]

still a couple days left...to sign free agents...from draft

Ayala, Kelvin
New Era Education School (PR)
PR
SS
S/R
HS SR
--
6' 0" 170lbs
DOB:02/12/04

Bell, Tommy
Old Dominion (VA)
USA
SS
R/R
4YR 5S
--
6' 1" 200lbs
DOB:11/15/98

 

[seahawksfan234]

It’s actually great because they have Hancock, Kelenic, Lewis, Ford and Evan White still to trade

Castillo has filthy stuff - and I like him a lot - but I do think we gave up more than he was worth.

Saw an interesting theory that the Mariners have been babying Arroyo and Marte in order to increase their trade value. Idk if that's true, or if the Mariners are that smart, but on the bright side, there have been reports Marte might need to move to the outfield which decreases his value substantially.

 

[seahawksfan234]

I don’t think we should give up on Kelenic just yet.. He’s young and could come around

I don't think we should give up on Kelenic yet only because right now his value is about as low as it could be.

That being said, I don't have much faith in him reaching his potential.

Even in AAA he's still striking out a lot which was one of his problems in the majors. The fact that he hasn't been able to remedy that in AAA is concerning to me. If you were to grade his bat-to-ball skills on a 20-80 scale, he's a 70 - but the problem is he gets behind in counts and hasn't been able to improve on that. Watch him in a BP session and he'll absolutely blow you away, but he doesn't seem to have the ability to translate that to quality pitching.

I'd hold on to Kelenic for now unless he was part of a package that valued him as the equivalent of a top-10 prospect.

 

[ulmax]

1 (21): Cole Young, SS, North Allegheny HS (PA) -- $3,300,000 (Pick value: $3,292,900)
Young will officially be in the fold when he puts pen to paper on Tuesday in Seattle, but the club has agreed to terms with the left-handed-hitting prep star on a well-over-slot contract.

6 (186): Josh Hood, SS, NC State -- $250,000 (Pick value:

Edryn Rodriguez......SS..mariners ACL

they forsure need to trade for one

Yake, Ernie
Gonzaga (WA)
USA
SS
L/R
4YR SR
--
5' 10" 175lbs
DOB:11/20/97
$10.00k

 

[seahawksfan234]

I will say my favorite thing about this trade is that it positions the Mariners to have a great rotation for years to come.

We're not far removed from Marco Gonzales being the best pitcher in our rotation.

We still need another bat for the lineup, it'll be interesting to see what Dipoto does. He may see the return of Haniger and Lewis as sufficient, but if it were me I'd be calling Pittsburgh and seeing what it would take to get Bryan Reynolds. I'd happily package Lewis and Kelenic for him. I hope I'm wrong - if they're not traded - but I don't think Kelenic will ever figure it out and I don't think Kyle Lewis has had his last serious knee injury.

 

[seahawksfan234]

1 (21): Cole Young, SS, North Allegheny HS (PA) -- $3,300,000 (Pick value: $3,292,900)
Young will officially be in the fold when he puts pen to paper on Tuesday in Seattle, but the club has agreed to terms with the left-handed-hitting prep star on a well-over-slot contract.

6 (186): Josh Hood, SS, NC State -- $250,000 (Pick value:

Edryn Rodriguez......SS..mariners ACL

I have to wonder if the selection of Cole Young played into the calculus of trading away Marte and Arroyo.

 

[seahawksfan234]

Umpires have been interleague for over 20 years. That's not a thing anymore. Adam Frazier has simply been bad at his job. And players know pitchers in both leagues. They have every tool at hand to succeed. Some don't. We don't need to make up excuses for that. Just upgrade the position.

Sadly I'm willing to admit that I was wrong about Frazier being a quality addition. I didn't expect him to match the .324 average he had with Pittsburgh before being traded, but I don't know what's wrong with him, or Jesse Winker.

 

[ulmax]

Young, Carter
Vanderbilt (TN)
USA
SS
S/R
4YR JR
6' 0" 180lbs
DOB:01/24/01

baltimore


Turconi, Michael
Wake Forest (NC)
USA
SS
L/R
4YR SR

toronto
--
5' 11" 185lbs
DOB:06/24/99
$75.00k

 

[ulmax]

damage control...or spot saving...one of the 2...

 

[ulmax]

I agree. Though I doubt the Ms can stay competitive for a sustained period of time even with those pieces. Trade away 2 or 3 of them for a 2-year window with one good OF / bat, and it’s even harder.

I have to wonder if the selection of Cole Young played into the calculus of trading away Marte and Arroyo.

im not sure....but..we will sure find out....with at least......maybe one more trade for the mariners....or not

free agents...draft...maybe(til aug 2)..still..that would do..for azl...if for.... young..(example).they traded gunn osmoso...

young could play ss..at aqua till next year.....or someone at that lvl......for damage control

 

[ulmax]

i doubt...

Hood, Josh..is ready for..HigH..A

could...
Edryn Rodriguez......SS..mariners ACL..go modesto...??...maybe..

prob

Cole Young, SS,...yeah


so aqua..is the prob..............................we are waiting to find out about..

if tey will trade for..bull pen guys...

or a rental...for toro..for know

 

[ulmax]

Kris Bubic 50

MJ Melendez 1

Josh Staumont 63

Scott Barlow 58 (CL)

kelenic...

maybe

deloach

need a high a

AngelMartinez SS	LC	63	217	35	60	13	3	8	22	37	48	8	5	.276	.392	.475	.86

AddisonBarger SS	VAN	69	260	46	78	21	2	14	53	25	76	7	2	.300	.366	.558	.924

 

[Destroydacre]

Won't really know for several years if this was a good trade or not. It was a lot to give up. But Marte is probably still 2 years away and Arroyo even longer. Just gotta hope Castillo comes in and pitches well here. Also Mariners have to re-sign him. Can't give all that up and let him walk after 2023.

 

[Podunkparte]

It wasn't an overpay. We gave up what was necessary to get him. Yankees were close on a trade and 11 other teams were in on him. That's what it takes to win an auction like that.

And not only did we ADD the best pitcher on the market, we also avoided having to face him should he have gone to the Yankees, Twins, Guardians, or Rays.

 

[wazzu31]

Castillo has filthy stuff - and I like him a lot - but I do think we gave up more than he was worth.

Saw an interesting theory that the Mariners have been babying Arroyo and Marte in order to increase their trade value. Idk if that's true, or if the Mariners are that smart, but on the bright side, there have been reports Marte might need to move to the outfield which decreases his value substantially.

I will say it is highly weird they traded the top two SS’s in the organization when one of the Reds top prospects is a SS. I would’ve liked to keep Arroyo just so he can be dealt in the next deal. But I am curious what the Reds asking price was for Castillo and Drury especially since as I said they now have 3 top prospects who can play his position.

 

[megalodon30]

1-0 in the Castillo era.

 

[ulmax]

Harold castro....maybe the best guy available....
2b/3b/1b...utility..28 years old
Detroit tigers...

281 ave..low on hrs right now