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Can we petition for the team to NEVER use Robbie Ray ever again?

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Would be nice if this were a thing...
 

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For all of the talk about the strength of the team being pitching, they don't feel like they have a closer they can count on in a big game and their #2 former Cy young starter they rely on when it's not warranted.

Ray isn't any better than Marco at this point. Both can fill in during regular season, but you aren't going to rely on them when it counts.

That they didn't have a lefty in the pen they liked more that Ray says they still have work to do to set this up as a deep pitching roster for next year.
 

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For all of the talk about the strength of the team being pitching, they don't feel like they have a closer they can count on in a big game and their #2 former Cy young starter they rely on when it's not warranted.

Ray isn't any better than Marco at this point. Both can fill in during regular season, but you aren't going to rely on them when it counts.

That they didn't have a lefty in the pen they liked more that Ray says they still have work to do to set this up as a deep pitching roster for next year.

Alvarez is hitting .300 off lefties this season.

You throw the guy that has the nastiest stuff to induce a bad swing. And it sure wasn't Robbie Ray, he had just gotten shelled by TOR a few days earlier.

Ray grooved back to back fastballs right over the plate: The 1st one Alvarez was right on and just missed.
The 2nd one he didn't miss = game over.

How can you not throw a slider off the plate on that 2nd pitch ? Or bust him up an in with fastball on his hands.

Anything ... ANYTHING other than back to back fastballs right down the middle.
 

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Trade him to Boston

He’d be the #1 starter lol
 

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No that is not going to happen..
Robbie is staying
.he is 12 and 12 the is year prob an off year for him he was 13 and 7 last year
Not the kind of pitcher that goes 28 and
4 but verlander used to have thoughs
Kind of numbers as well..no....
No I don't think so.
 

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And they will use ray diff next year than this year..its just the way it goes..
They may trade him sometime
.but not next year
.I would say....

My only critical on ray is he needs one more pitch....to keep hitters off balance
 

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If Robbie could knuckle curve
It would do werd stuff and act
Like a change...lolololol
That arm..
Would.. get it there..
Lolololo
 

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Robbie can't be used again in this series. Period. If some weird miracle happened and you faced the Yankees he would for sure be used and needed. Better match-up anyway.
 

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Eh. Ray hasn't had a great year but he is still solid. His contract is a bit high for production but with Castillo, Kirby, Gilbert + Ray is one of the best 4 man rotations the M's have ever had.

The truth is that using Ray out of the bullpen was a big mistake by Servais. This is not so much a Ray failure as a Servais failure.

The lack of bullpen lefties was apparent yesterday. Personally, I would have considered walking Alvarez and pitched to Bergman instead, but hindsight is 20/20.
 

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I have to tell you this...and it's prob what you don't want to heir...
Teams are built....like a house..
And Robbie was the next step..at a time
When the mariners needed him...and they still do..that has not changed....
As team go through the motions..of
What they do....they learn..all the time
Who and what..they ..are....(Actually it's more of A people thing..that auto happens)..robbie is a cye young pitcher

Know the mariners..have to learn..
What that means..and how to deal with it

They have not had ...a decade..to deal
With such problems..
As the astros...who got lucky....yes it happens to playoff teams..just like the
Mariners did to toronto..

That is why...you can never let up..
Always keep the pressure...on

If you say...ok we ..will get them next time
That may be

I see it more of an slugg fest..between
The mariners and astros..for the next few years...
Good compatition..good deal..
Ball games..worth paying..to see..
 

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Not sure why you have Boyd on the roster if you won't use him vs lefties or anyone for that matter. He has been great for us. Ray, well...
 

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Not sure why you have Boyd on the roster if you won't use him vs lefties or anyone for that matter. He has been great for us. Ray, well...
That's a good point; not like any of these guys have playoff experience, so why wouldn't they give him a shot. I really hope he gets to pitch tomorrow; I work with his dad and our company got a suite for a bunch of us for the game. Would be cool if he came in and shut 'em down while we are there.
 

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That's a good point; not like any of these guys have playoff experience, so why wouldn't they give him a shot. I really hope he gets to pitch tomorrow; I work with his dad and our company got a suite for a bunch of us for the game. Would be cool if he came in and shut 'em down while we are there.
Now that is pretty cool. And I agree 100% with you. Give him a shot.
 

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Patitions are filed like the ..rest.
.especial slide choot..strait to the dumpster......lololololop
 

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The problem with .
Evelution
.is
De=eveluion..if polatitons would stop

DE=Eveluting..we may actually get somewhere.

Over the rainbow...

But the are...so
..so..one way....street..
 
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If the ...magority...gets reprisentation..

What happens to the rest.....garbage pile

If not know..
When...
If It's not
...me
it better
.be you...
.
lololololpl dumb fun
 

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Well that didn't last long. Ray up in our final game
 
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