Brady with/without

[wilwhite]

Belichick:
219-64 (.774)
79-88 (.473)

Arians:
24-9 (.727)
56-39-1 (.589)

Bowles:
8-9 (.471)
26-41 (.388)

 

[eaglesnut]

^^^These are perfect datasets for doing statistical analysis

 

[PDay8810]

salute

time to move on

 

[Clayton]

Belichick:
219-64 (.774)
79-88 (.473)

Arians:
24-9 (.727)
56-39-1 (.589)

Bowles:
8-9 (.471)
26-41 (.388)

Arians record was with Andrew Luck, Carson Palmer and Jameis Winston. Three number 1 overall picks. That said, he was an offensive mind and Belichick and Bowles are defensive guys. Too hard to win long-term as a defensive guy. A lot of the success you see is in offensive coaches that come down the extended Bill Walsh tree (to Holmgren, to Andy Reid, to Gruden, to Shanahan, to McVay).

Worth pointing out that Brady's career with Gronk had a 6.0 TD% and a 1.4 INT%. Add in him having an above average defense all but like 3 seasons and its not hard to see why they won a lot.

 

[broncosmitty]

It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out with McDaniels.

 

[PDay8810]

It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out with McDaniels.

raiders are fucked

 

[BigKen]

raiders are fucked

Sure fucked the 49ers the other night.

 

[RememberTheKoy]

I'd like to see one done with Andy Reid and his record with all his different QBs.

 

[Debbie Does]

I think the question of whether Brady or Belichick was the key to Patriot dominance is settled.

 

[RememberTheKoy]

I'd like to see one done with Andy Reid and his record with all his different QBs.

Found it.

Andy Reid is
92-49-1 with McNabb
64-16 with Patrick Mahomes
50-26 with Alex Smith
18-16 with Michael Vick
5-1 with Jeff Garcia
4-3 with AJ Feeley
3-4 with Kevin Kolb
2-1 with Koy Detmer
2-5 with Mike McMahon
2-5 with Nick Foles
2-7 with Doug Pederson
1-1 with Chase Daniel
1-1 with Matt Moore
1-2 with Vince Young
0-1 with Chad Henne

 

[Cave_Johnson]

For the record, Belichick is 39-32 without Brady over the last 20 years while starting the likes of Matt Cassel, Jimmy G, Jacoby Brissett, geriatric Cam Newton, Jared Stidham, and Mac Jones.

 

[Cave_Johnson]

Arians record was with Andrew Luck, Carson Palmer and Jameis Winston. Three number 1 overall picks. That said, he was an offensive mind and Belichick and Bowles are defensive guys. Too hard to win long-term as a defensive guy. A lot of the success you see is in offensive coaches that come down the extended Bill Walsh tree (to Holmgren, to Andy Reid, to Gruden, to Shanahan, to McVay).

Worth pointing out that Brady's career with Gronk had a 6.0 TD% and a 1.4 INT%. Add in him having an above average defense all but like 3 seasons and its not hard to see why they won a lot.

Also not hard to see why they won in TB. Bruce put together a loaded roster that just needed a competent QB.

Brady would have been wise to get out on TB like he did with NE once the roster fell apart but I guess he needed to earn back some of that money he lost in Sam Bankman-Fried's ponzi scheme.

 

[eaglesnut]

Found it.

Andy Reid is
92-49-1 with McNabb
64-16 with Patrick Mahomes
50-26 with Alex Smith
18-16 with Michael Vick
5-1 with Jeff Garcia
4-3 with AJ Feeley
3-4 with Kevin Kolb
2-1 with Koy Detmer
2-5 with Mike McMahon
2-5 with Nick Foles
2-7 with Doug Pederson
1-1 with Chase Daniel
1-1 with Matt Moore
1-2 with Vince Young
0-1 with Chad Henne

Koy was even better at winning with Andy than mcnabb.

Stupidest thing Andy ever did was go with mcnabb for so long.

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

Koy was even better at winning with Andy than mcnabb.

Stupidest thing Andy ever did was go with mcnabb for so long.

92-49 with McNabb is a very telling number for sure. McNabb under any other coach likely becomes a back-up within a couple of years. To be fair, your Eagles had a really good defense in those years too, which contributes a lot to that record.

 

[wilwhite]

For the record, Belichick is 39-32 without Brady over the last 20 years while starting the likes of Matt Cassel, Jimmy G, Jacoby Brissett, geriatric Cam Newton, Jared Stidham, and Mac Jones.

25-25 since Brady left the team.

Not a bad coach at all, but also not a magician.

 

[PDay8810]

25-25 since Brady left the team.

Not a bad coach at all, but also not a magician.

Timing is everything...unless you're Joe Gibbs and I hate saying this, but unlike many homers such as myself...I can be football objective when I want to be.

 

[Dude]

 

[Cave_Johnson]

25-25 since Brady left the team.

Not a bad coach at all, but also not a magician.

"Not a bad coach" is not exactly how most people who watch football would refer to Bill Belichick.