2010 vs 2011 3 Game Comparison

[MW49ers5]

Interesting comparative look at the first three games of 2010 vs 2011

-----------Score-----------------Offense
Year---49ers---Opp---1stD---TotYd---PassY---RushY---TO
2010----38-----87-----49-----931-----697------234-----7
2011----70-----52-----42-----641-----432------209-----2


-----------------------Defense
Year---1stD---TotYd---PassY---RushY---Sack---TO---TO +/-
2010----52-----986-----652-----334*----3---2-------5
2011----52-----919-----731-----188-----7---8------+6


-----------------------------Smith
Year---Cmp---Att---Comp%---Yds---TD---INT---Rate---Y/A
2010---72----119----60.5%---732----2-----5----66.2---6.2
2011---51-----74----68.9%---432----2**---1----87.2---5.8

*207 Yards given up against KC
** Does not include Smiths one rushing TD

 

[clyde_carbon]

I'm pretty sure Smith's YPA is 6.8 not 5.8, which puts him at about 22nd, just above Sam Bradford and Andy Dalton.

 

[MHSL82]

Smith has 504 yards and a 91.3 QB rating. Are you subtracting sack yards? Where are you getting the 87 rate?

 

[MW49ers5]

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[MW49ers5]

GRRR!

 

[MW49ers5]

Thanks Clyde - Thanks 82'

I retrieved the stats from PFR, I know better than to not double check them, but in this case I didn't and paid the price. Thanks for catching the error. I sent an email to the site, and they are usually good about correcting their mistakes. Anyway, as soon as I can, I owe both of you reps for catching that!

Below are the corrected statistics through 3 games, with some additional info:

-----------Score-----------------Offense
Year---49ers---Opp---1stD---TotYd---PassY---RushY---TO

2010----38-----87-----49-----966-----732------234-----7
2011----70-----52-----42-----713-----504------209-----2


-----------------------Defense
Year---1stD---TotYd---PassY---RushY---Sack---TO---TO +/-
2010----52-----1008----674-----334*----3------2-------5
2011----52-----974-----786-----188-----7------8------+6


-----------------------------Smith
Year---Cmp---Att---Comp%---Yds---TD---INT---Sacks---SkRatio---Rate---Y/A

2010---72----119----60.5%---732----2-----5------7--------18------66.2---6.2
2011---51-----74----68.9%---504----2**--1------11--------7.7 ----91.3---6.8

*207 Yards given up against KC
** Does not include Smiths one rushing TD
Sack Ratio is the # of drop-backs per sack

 

[MHSL82]

A few observations, mostly obvious.

1. As bad as our offense is this year, it's better than last year total-wise. If you take away the FGs and Special Teams points from both years, the offense is averaging 11.7 points per game (18.7 with FGs) and 9.7 (12.7 with FGs) - not sure why I took out fg's but not that it's done. The offense is more productive than last year points wise.

2. Despite everyone blaming the defense against Dallas, we're much better this year than last. It just shows that so far we're good but vulnerable. 24 points would beat most teams and our defense may have stopped half or more of the teams from reaching that score.

3. Despite our collective running's not good, but there isn't that big of difference from last year. Like my rationalization? :P

4. Fewer turnovers are key, especially in these ugly games.

5. We're getting to the QB more often, even against a "mobile" Jackson. (I don't think he's all that mobile but I've heard otherwise.)

6. Alex is playing better, more efficient ball and we still have the same TDs to show for it and more points. That to me says more about Singletary but others may disagree.

7. The sacks are a bit skewed because Singletary had a scheme in for awhile and still wasn't great. Though the numbers show we've regressed so far as even with a set scheme, the first games I feel are worse.

8. I know this is not percieved as a legitimate stat but based upon yards per catch, this year is very similar to last year. 10.2 to 9.8.

 

[FourBeeDen]

A few things that can be concluded based on the stats MW just re-posted...

1. The total yardage between the first 3 games of 2010 and 2011 can be misleading. Although the 49ers' offense accumulated more yards in 2010 than 2011, it does not equate to more wins in 2010. Add to the fact that Alex Smith's passing yardage in 2010 is >200 yrds more than 2011, clearly indicates that the Niners were playing catch up and had to throw the ball during those games.

2. 7 Turn overs in the first 3 games of 2010 compare to 2 in 2011 indicates that the 49ers' are protecting the football better and as a result, they are 2-1. In the 1st 3 games of 2010 Alex Smith already had 5 INT compare to just 1 this year. he was responsible for 71% of the TO's in 2010 compared to 50% of this years TO's so far.

3. OL play has been poor, to say it mildly. In the first 3 games of 2010, the Niners gave up 7 sacks and rush for 234 years. This year they already have 11 sacks and rushed for only 209 yards. I know there are other factors that contributes to these stats but the common denominator for them is the O Line.

4. Even though the defensive stats --- total yards given up by the Niners, seemed close to each other between the 2010 and 2011 games, the biggest difference is the TO's. So far the Niners already have 8 compared to 2 in 2010.

Bottom line, the Niners 2-1 record on the first 3 games of 2011 compared to 0-3 last year, can directly be attributed to winning the battle of TO's . The offense has not generated much but they have protected the ball better than last year and the defense has been able to generate TO's. The main question now is, will this be good enough to get to the play offs? I'd say no. The Niners need more contibutions from there offense to take some pressure off of their defense....

 

[h0ckeysk83r]

A few things that can be concluded based on the stats MW just re-posted...

1. The total yardage between the first 3 games of 2010 and 2011 can be misleading. Although the 49ers' offense accumulated more yards in 2010 than 2011, it does not equate to more wins in 2010. Add to the fact that Alex Smith's passing yardage in 2010 is >200 yrds more than 2011, clearly indicates that the Niners were playing catch up and had to throw the ball during those games.

2. 7 Turn overs in the first 3 games of 2010 compare to 2 in 2011 indicates that the 49ers' are protecting the football better and as a result, they are 2-1. In the 1st 3 games of 2010 Alex Smith already had 5 INT compare to just 1 this year. he was responsible for 71% of the TO's in 2010 compared to 50% of this years TO's so far.

3. OL play has been poor, to say it mildly. In the first 3 games of 2010, the Niners gave up 7 sacks and rush for 234 years. This year they already have 11 sacks and rushed for only 209 yards. I know there are other factors that contributes to these stats but the common denominator for them is the O Line.

4. Even though the defensive stats --- total yards given up by the Niners, seemed close to each other between the 2010 and 2011 games, the biggest difference is the TO's. So far the Niners already have 8 compared to 2 in 2010.

Bottom line, the Niners 2-1 record on the first 3 games of 2011 compared to 0-3 last year, can directly be attributed to winning the battle of TO's . The offense has not generated much but they have protected the ball better than last year and the defense has been able to generate TO's. The main question now is, will this be good enough to get to the play offs? I'd say no. The Niners need more contibutions from there offense to take some pressure off of their defense....

Who do you see winning this division then. I see no reason why we cant win it this year. Not saying we go far but the other 3 teams look like crap as well.

 

[Ray_Dogg]

I fully expect us to win the division. Tread water and then take care of our division games at the end of the season and it is ours.

 

[FourBeeDen]

Who do you see winning this division then. I see no reason why we cant win it this year. Not saying we go far but the other 3 teams look like crap as well.

That is totally up in the air right now. The NFC west is a very open division. Last year the seahawks won with a 7-9 record. With the quality of play that the Niners offense is playing at right now, it will be difficult for them to win the division relying on their defense alone as shown in the Dallas game. One slip, one wrong read and the game is lost. Any other team in the division can get hot or lucky at any point of the season. Better play from the offense increases the chances of the Niners to win... Simply saying the other teams are crap does not guarantee a division win

 

[deep9er]

That is totally up in the air right now. The NFC west is a very open division. Last year the seahawks won with a 7-9 record. With the quality of play that the Niners offense is playing at right now, it will be difficult for them to win the division relying on their defense alone as shown in the Dallas game. One slip, one wrong read and the game is lost. Any other team in the division can get hot or lucky at any point of the season. Better play from the offense increases the chances of the Niners to win... Simply saying the other teams are crap does not guarantee a division win

i'm with this view and btw - well put.

although we're feeling good about ourselves relative to the West, it can turn in a hurry? as already noted, this team is vulnerable (now) and able to lose 3 games in a row, maybe more?

yeah, i think more on the 49ers getting better, how can we improve our own team, our own performance? less on what other teams are doing, who's injured, their schedule, etc.. cause no matter what the others are doing, we have to win games.

 

[Z-Comeback]

punxsutawney phil says that after 3 games EVERY division is "open"
and that the 49ers are winning the west. He's the prognosticator of prognosticators btw

just sayin'...

 

[mem49er]

punxsutawney phil says that after 3 games EVERY division is "open"
and that the 49ers are winning the west. He's the prognosticator of prognosticators btw

just sayin'...

If he were alive, I'd ask that octopus.

 

[Z-Comeback]

If he were alive, I'd ask that octopus.

The octopus bled silver and black.

 

[mem49er]

The octopus bled silver and black.

Heresy!!!